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Originally posted by markknepp
a truly good trackdog never seems to hit an old cold track. they make almost every track seem like a good hot one.

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I hope you guys dont think that since i say my dog is cold nosed that she gets on tracks and boo;s and bangs, cause she dont. She drifts a track in and out, picks it up here and there, opens here and there and trees the coon...But I aint gonna believe for one second that some of you guys that have never seen a cold bad track is because your dog has the best nose in the world.I see that in the stud adds all the time, put some tracking back in your kennel and you look at the pedigree and it comes from dogs that are known for its tree power. Im not saying you all dont have a good track dog, but Im not buying that you dont know what a cold track is. If you dont its cause your dog cant smell it, or your just not being honest with yourself. I really want some of you guys to bring your boots and hat and come down and hunt with me so I can see these fine track dogs in action and so they can make some of these cold tracks i been dealing with look like it should be a pop up tree job.

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Originally posted by Matt McKinney
5 miles is just an exageration, she has never gone that far. Where you at. I would be happy to come down if you aint clear across the country. I am getting ready to go myself, but like I said, i been hunting with hounds that have won 5 figures in hunts over the years,and a few nights recently a few of them havent even made a bark. Coonhunting been tough up here.

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Originally posted by englishheat298
Where ya located?

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Originally posted by markknepp
a truly good trackdog never seems to hit an old cold track. they make almost every track seem like a good hot one.

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Originally posted by Matt McKinney
I hope you guys dont think that since i say my dog is cold nosed that she gets on tracks and boo;s and bangs, cause she dont. She drifts a track in and out, picks it up here and there, opens here and there and trees the coon...But I aint gonna believe for one second that some of you guys that have never seen a cold bad track is because your dog has the best nose in the world.I see that in the stud adds all the time, put some tracking back in your kennel and you look at the pedigree and it comes from dogs that are known for its tree power. Im not saying you all dont have a good track dog, but Im not buying that you dont know what a cold track is. If you dont its cause your dog cant smell it, or your just not being honest with yourself. I really want some of you guys to bring your boots and hat and come down and hunt with me so I can see these fine track dogs in action and so they can make some of these cold tracks i been dealing with look like it should be a pop up tree job.

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Originally posted by hillbilly56
jmo you know about everybody on this post has super dogs that has a nose out of this world and dont make any mistakes then i seen someone post that if thier dog spends to much time on a track rhey go in and let the dog know they are not happy about it not moving the track fast enough for them pleasure hunters and compition hunters will never agree on the type of dog each likes i never did do the hunts but had alot of buddys that did i could take my pleasure dog with them and fo just as good as them some 1 on here implyed that i didnt know much about hounds if i read it right i had hounds for 48 yrs so i i know alittle about dog but i see some on here that really think they know it all this might be my last post on this issue

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Originally posted by aw52
HILLBILLY, you're right and i'v been around hounds almost as long as you. a coondog is a coondog point blank, either pleasure or competition.

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LET THE HOUNDS DO THE TALKING!

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‘PR’ Main Street Double Trouble (Grntch Main Street Ramblin Rambo x Ntch Poplar Run Blue Bonnie)

R.I.P
Ntch Indiana Jones (Woodstock redman x blue arrow)

NTCH Buck Creeks Wild Wendy (Shannon’s iron Hank x Shannon’s Flossie)

Grntch Main Street Hooker (Main Street Max x Twin Creek Patch)

Grntch Main Street Ramblin Rambo (Main Street Max x Buck Creeks Wild Wendy) **Semen** ‘14 1st place Grnite Bluetick Days

Grntch Pkc CH Main Street Dyno (Main Street Dino x Red Ruby Suzie) final 4 pkc black n tan days, final 4 Indiana Autumn Pro Classic, semi finals legacy

Heart,lonely,accurate loyal hounds! Full Throttle English Hounds!
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219-344-1885

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Originally posted by hillbilly56
your right aw 52 but guys got these dogs that comp hunt dont want them to come back me i like a dog to hunt a big circle and check back in about 20-30 mins you turn most these comp dogs loose most just go as hard as they can go i like to humt coons mot dogs if i had a dog that i had to buy all tracking equiment i would sell it or kill it stone cold dead same with a dog that slick trees half the time they wont eat my food infact they wont be eating no 1s food and passing that bad trait on down the blood line i hate a tree happy dog jmo

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HILLBILLY

where in w.v. are you from ? my ole lady's family is from clarksburg.

i dont have a very good track dog now. i used to have one. she's dead now so i dont know if she actually was as good as i remember. she could flat move any track she hit. she lacked a lot in tree power tho.

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Originally posted by aw52
where in w.v. are you from ? my ole lady's family is from clarksburg.

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Originally posted by hillbilly56
i live in fairmont its about 20 mins north of clarksburg

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Originally posted by aw52
you know nick brady or allen chenoweth and the rest of them down that way ?

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Originally posted by hillbilly56
dont think i i know mr brady but might know him if i seen his face my memory getting alittle bad i know allen but not real good he lives up in prunty town theres a boy that lives across the road from me that hunts a dog for him once in awhile i bought a black dog a few yrs ago off buddy of mines dad he got sick she was out of clairs chenoweths stuff thats allens dad i just bought her to help the ole fellow out but she was a coon dog but i always kept red dogs

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Originally posted by Richard Nethery
I dont have any Titled Hounds, but I would have to say, a title impresses me, When I see a Title on a Hound, I know right off that It can tree a Coon, or atleast it will tree a Coon with other hounds.
Nothing against a title.

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Sleep all day, keep them coons up all night with walker power.

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Originally posted by aw52
nick brady used to handle dogs for clair.

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NOTHIN AGAINST A TITLED DOG OR A UN TITLED DOG

yrs ago a mans pleasure dog was his comp dog and vise versa. titled or not they were real deal "COONDOGS" FIRST in most cases, WHETHER YOU HAD A SCORE CARD WITH YOU OR NOT..
people comp hunted to prove the better COONDOG.
now its to prove the better comp dog & handler.
to me the dog that can tree a hot coon the fastest don't mean a whole lot.especially when they are bred like they are today for comp hunts with automatic striking and other faults as bred in traits.
titled or not, you show me the dog that can tree any coon it gets after, anytime of the yr, and thats the one i title with the name of COONDOG - AND THATS THE ONE I WILL BREED OR HAVE A PUP FROM..
most any dog that can tree a coon and even some that can't, if taken to enough hunts on the right night with the right handler will eventually get a title. there are alot more ways for a dog to end up the high scoring dog then it being the best one on the cast.
to me having the coon is the name of the game.

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toe cutter

you talkin about the old school dogs they were a more blanced dog that could tree a coon no matter what the weather my granpap used to tell me boy dont waste your feed on a no account dog

I COMP HUNTED AND PLEASURE HUNTED THE SAME DOGS. HONEST STRIKE AND HONEST TREE DOGS. I STILL HUNT AND BREED THE SAME BLOODLINE FOR THOSE TRAITS TODAY. I DO IT WITH TRAITS , IF THEY GOT TITLES THATS GREAT ,BUT TITLES HAVE NO PLACE WHATS SO EVER IN THE BREEDING PEN.
TITLES ARE NOT TRAITS.

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RED EAGLE MACK BRED WALKER DOGS

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Originally posted by toe cutter
I COMP HUNTED AND PLEASURE HUNTED THE SAME DOGS. HONEST STRIKE AND HONEST TREE DOGS. I STILL HUNT AND BREED THE SAME BLOODLINE FOR THOSE TRAITS TODAY. I DO IT WITH TRAITS , IF THEY GOT TITLES THATS GREAT ,BUT TITLES HAVE NO PLACE WHATS SO EVER IN THE BREEDING PEN.
TITLES ARE NOT TRAITS.

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comp. breeders

have bred the "good"{nose and brains}traits out.that has what gave the walkers a bad name.

comp. dogs and coondogs are totally different today.
i'm lucky to have the dog i got.after buying,turning around and selling probably 6 titled or direct off big well known dogs..i learned titles don't mean its a coondog.i was embarrassed to own them,all of them.

i just laugh when i see guys on here blowing about how nice there grnitech is throwing....if 50% accurate is nice.lol

coondogs period.....

in 1977-78 when we had the great blizzard i hunted dogs that would tree a coon in the snow and cold. in the early to mid eighties my buddy and i had two females. they both were born in 1982, when they were six months old we were singling them out and hunting them alone. we hunted those females until we buried them. they would tree coon in the worse thunder and lightening storms, the deepest swamps, in snow so deep that you could barely walk thru, in any conditions they would tree coons. they were strike dogs that could run and drift a track and the most pull proof pressure treedogs i have ever hunted with. one was gr.nt. mullin's black river squaw (hickory hill jack x roland's buckeye kitty) kitty was a double bred hickory nut harry x morgans penny bred. lady was off of a male out of finley river dan x lonepine jill. squaw and lady was naturals from four months old.how many dogs now days could you take coonhunting by themselves at six months old and tree coon after coon ? they was competition dogs and pleasure dogs, they was'nt no babbling slick treeing idiots. back in the day there was more balanced coondogs and everyone would hunt them in the hunts.

COON DOGS !!!

i have hunted and hunt with big named dogs that won prohunts, in final fours in the pkc world hunts, in final fours of senior dog truck hunts that were gold and platium champions and i seen them up here in the snow and cold that could'nt tree a coon here. i unsnapped one of those great champions three times in about three inches of snow and 28 degrees and he struck three different tracks in three different cut cornfields and after about i would say 7 or 8 minutes, he came back to me. well by 10:00 pm that night the original handler was headed back to tennessee aggravated. those southern great competition dogs can't hack these winter nights in central ohio.