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Posted by Wayne Valentino on 09-23-2010 04:32 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by eb7712

Ed you got something extra nice there... train him up right...

----------NITECH'PR'ROGERS' LITTLE MACK
--------GRNITECH GRCH'PR'LITTLEJOHN'S LITTLE ARKIE
----------'PR'TEXAS CREEK BLUE DIXIE
-----'PR'PERRYMAN'S BLUE MACK
----------CH NITECH'PR'FOUCHE RIVER PREACHER
--------'PR'LITTLEJOHN'S BLUE PATSIE
----------'PR'WATSON'S BLUE MAXINE
'PR'PERRYMAN'S BLUE BAWLER
----------CH NITECH'PR'FOUCHE RIVER PREACHER
--------NITECH'PR'ROGERS' BLUE CABLE
----------'PR'HEATH'S BLUE VAUGHN BETTY LOU
------'PR'PERRYMAN'S BLUE JUDY
----------CH NITECH'PR'JEFFERY'S BLUE BOWSER
--------'PR'FIELD'S BLUE KATIE ANN
----------'PR'ROGERS' BLUE QUEEN
REBEL
---------NITECH'PR'SMOKEY RIVER JBS CHEIF
------FCH GRNITECH GRCH'PR'VINING RUNNING BULLET
---------GRNITECH CH'PR'SMOKEY RIVER CRAZYS BLUE FLY
---GRCH GRNITECH'PR'TWIN SPRINGS' RUNNIN BULLET II
---------'PR'SMOKEY RIVER SPUD
------GRNITECH'PR'SMOKEY RIVER JEAN'S BLUE JUNE
---------NITECH'PR'SMOKEY RIVER BE'S BLUE JEAN
'PR'MASSENGALE'S ARK. BLUE LENA
---------CH NITECH'PR'WHEATWOOD BLUE LOUD
------NITECH CH'PR'PREIST'S BLUE LEAD
---------NITECH CH'PR'POWDER RIVER BLUE PEPPER
---'PR'MASSENGALE'S BLUE SILK
---------'PR'BOAT MT. BLUE BUSTER
------'PR'MASSENGALE'S SUZIE
---------'PR'GAMBLE BLUE DIXIE

This was rebels first time being worked on a coon. He did real good, very smart hound. I attribute all of his natural ability to his breeding and I want to thank Steve Perryman and Doug Massengale. thanks again.

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Posted by kenfischer on 09-25-2010 01:46 AM:

Re: Boomer II an Polly II

quote:
Originally posted by sawtooth
Ken, You`re PM Box is Full So I`ll do It This Way. Save me One Off Boomer II an The Polly II Dog..RBP

roy id love to save you a pup out of that cross BUT her litter was early and still born.that was the last time she will be bred.ive got a litter coming in a few weeks out of boomer II and vaughns bluedog judy.she is roughly 60% vaughn blood and the rest is bragg blood.ive also got 4 females lined up to be bred to boomer II their next heat cycle.these females are the heaviest vaughn blooded females alive today.it will be some very good vaughn blooded crosses coming soon.

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Posted by barrwayne on 09-25-2010 03:29 AM:

IVE GOT A PERRYMAN DOG THAT IS A YEAR OLD . HE IS OUT OF SIRE BLUE BO AND DAMBLUE FROST BLUE NELLIE . IVE TRIED EVERY THING I CAN THINK OF AND ALL THAT IVE BEEN TOLD TO DO . MY PROBLEM IS HE HUNTS REAL GOOD BUT HE WILL NOT OPEN ON TRACK OR ON A TREE IVE ALL BUT GIVIN UP ON HIM HE IS A SUPER LOOKIN DOG BUT HE WONT BARK UNLESS HE IS IN THE YARD OR IN THE DOG BOX IM ABOUT READY TO CUT MY LOSSES WITH HIMCAN SOME ONE PLZ TELL ME WHAT IS WRONG

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Posted by Wayne Valentino on 09-25-2010 11:14 AM:

is 1 year old... may just be a later starter.. not all pups start young...

Posted by jaws on 09-26-2010 01:46 PM:

He may surprise you if you dont push him too hard. Ive seen alot of blues turn it on a little later.

Posted by Kenbev on 09-26-2010 01:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by jaws
He may surprise you if you dont push him too hard. Ive seen alot of blues turn it on a little later.

Jaws, I agree with you and Wayne. With the blood that that pup has, he should come on good with a little time. Sometimes we give up on a pup too soon.....

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Posted by mrbluedog on 09-26-2010 05:41 PM:

I would not give up so quick on him at least let him have a good shot at his 1st kill season once they see what is going on and no change then I might cut my loss

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Posted by mash22410 on 09-27-2010 04:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Kenbev
Jaws, I agree with you and Wayne. With the blood that that pup has, he should come on good with a little time. Sometimes we give up on a pup too soon.....

I just told Ken about an update on my gyp... She really started well for me at about 1 to 1 1/2... but for about the last 6 months she really seemed to not do much of anything... she would hunt too, but never really opened on track or would tree...

she's just now in my opinion starting to show again for me... it's exciting to see her start moving again like i know she can...

i guess what i'm trying to say is that this summer i was thinking just about giving up on her, but i really think she's staring to put it all together again... she's been a different hound here lately than she has been in a long time... i can just tell by her body language and her moving about (and opening up) while in the woods she's coming together... just my two cents...

Posted by Wayne Valentino on 09-27-2010 12:03 PM:

Mark

young hounds at times go through "spells" you know it's there but it isn't clicking.. It will give you fits... I find myself getting impatient with this the older I get.. You gotta just see it as an adolecent "glitch" most come through it better on the other side. You will see alot of guys say Lay em up for a month... It really does work...

Posted by arkiedog on 09-27-2010 03:17 PM:

You're excatly right Wayne.

I call them puppy stages. They start quick doing it all, getting better every time you turn them loose, then one night, they act like they've forgotten everything.
I've seen this with breaking colts to ride also. About the time you get proud of them, they make a fool out of you.
It's easier to see this in some than others, but they all go through it.
The good news is, they always come out better than they were before. I always like to see them start these spells, because that means that we're fixing to get them behind us. If you don't shoot him first... lol

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Posted by jaws on 09-27-2010 03:26 PM:

I find that to be true especially with females after their 1st heat. Sometimes they are just flat for a couple months and then all of sudden it clicks and your in business! This dry hot summer isnt the best time to be too hard on a young dog/pup either. Be patient, he'll come around for you.

Posted by kengregory on 09-27-2010 05:27 PM:

mash22410

You're gyps' littermates Adkins Blue 9 and Adkins Ellie Mae went through the same thing...... When 9 came "back around" he was much better! Couldn't tell much about Ellie, when she came off of her pups, Mr. Valentino got her....... My son's dog (Patrick Henry) did the same thing, he's back to doing good now, I agree with these fellas, I believe they all go through it........ Just my 2 cents also.....

Posted by Kenbev on 09-27-2010 05:53 PM:

Re: mash22410

quote:
Originally posted by kengregory
You're gyps' littermates Adkins Blue 9 and Adkins Ellie Mae went through the same thing...... When 9 came "back around" he was much better! Couldn't tell much about Ellie, when she came off of her pups, Mr. Valentino got her....... My son's dog (Patrick Henry) did the same thing, he's back to doing good now, I agree with these fellas, I believe they all go through it........ Just my 2 cents also.....

I call it the SOPHOMORE jinx. It usually happens between One and Two years of age... Some earlier and some latter...

PS: Remember Kenny, Don't shoot that dog...

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Posted by Wayne Valentino on 09-27-2010 06:39 PM:

Yep

They get some wild hair up their butt and act stupid or do things they have never done before.. It clears out with proper handling... Kenny G.. I just programmed your cell phone # in my cell... Your gonna get that call soon to hear your little girl bawling on track and choppin 100 bpm on the wood..I may even call Adkins and show him what a treedog is..LOL.... You think he already knows what kinda treedog his 9th generation is ????

Posted by Kenbev on 09-27-2010 08:35 PM:

Wayne

You should have heard the Orginal Blue Dog Blue TREE!!!!!!! I have hunted for over 50 years. I never heard anything like him before or since of any shape, color or size!!!!!!!

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Posted by mash22410 on 09-27-2010 10:04 PM:

sophomore jinx... or whatever you guys are calling it...

some of you know, and some don't... but coon hunting with hounds is really still new to me...

but i like hearing what you all are saying... i know i'm not crazy, but i can definitely see a turn around in her... instead of being frustrated and ready to scream - i now am excited to take her out! it's like something is just changing in her... i'll have her out again either tonight or definitely tomorrow. i'll have to keep you updated ken...

and i'm not the only one to see the change in her again... my buddies are commenting on it too... it is just exciting (at least for me) to see her moving good again... FINALLY!!

Posted by mrbluedog on 09-27-2010 10:59 PM:

most all young dogs have a switch that needs to come on some come on quicker and it can seem to happen over night. I tell all new pup trainers to just think of them as kids not all kids start walking and talking at the same age.

Posted by Wayne Valentino on 09-28-2010 12:35 PM:

Re: Wayne

quote:
Originally posted by Kenbev
You should have heard the Orginal Blue Dog Blue TREE!!!!!!! I have hunted for over 50 years. I never heard anything like him before or since of any shape, color or size!!!!!!!

If he treed harder than my old Scout,Hannah and Chopper he musta been a maniac....

Posted by Wayne Valentino on 09-30-2010 01:37 PM:

Re: sophomore jinx... or whatever you guys are calling it...

quote:
Originally posted by mash22410

Mark it may be time to single her out and take her alone most of the time for a good month.. Especially when kill season comes in. Her sister is gonna get some of that same alone time with an overweight, grey haired ole buzzard possibly starting tonight depending on the rain.. WHY DO I BRING IN YOUNG DOGS THAT NEED TLC ??? I need old dogs like me that just go do it !! LOL !!! I think Adkins does this to me just to get a good chuckle !!!
some of you know, and some don't... but coon hunting with hounds is really still new to me...

but i like hearing what you all are saying... i know i'm not crazy, but i can definitely see a turn around in her... instead of being frustrated and ready to scream - i now am excited to take her out! it's like something is just changing in her... i'll have her out again either tonight or definitely tomorrow. i'll have to keep you updated ken...

and i'm not the only one to see the change in her again... my buddies are commenting on it too... it is just exciting (at least for me) to see her moving good again... FINALLY!!

Posted by mash22410 on 09-30-2010 10:11 PM:

alone time...

i'll do that... i can't say i won't take her out with me and my buddies... but i think i will try some alone time with her...

had her out tuesday night with an older walker... she opened up on one track and worked a good bit that night in my opinion... i'm happy to say that sometimes i don't know where she's at (and that's been unusual for her these past few months...)

i'll plan on taking her out by herself sometime this week or next...

Posted by kenfischer on 10-04-2010 05:53 PM:

Re: Shady Lady

quote:
Originally posted by Kenbev
ol' lady will be back in ny soon.i wonder what she will be bred to...

��....Rankins Blue Lead
��..Leathermans Blue Ring
��....Wheatwood Blue Rachael
��..Talleys Blue Cody
��....Rogers Little Mack
��..Watsons Blue Lula
��....Watsons Blue Maggie
��.Rowdy Blue Thunder Cloud
��Rankins Blue Lead
��..Leathermans Blue Ring
��....Wheatwood Blue Rachael
��..Tokeena Hot Blue Gypsi
��Swamp Land Gator
��..Watsons Blue Dixie
��Watsons Blue Pearl
��Bad Creek Blue Rooster
��Vaughns Blue Mack III
��..Rogers Little Mack
��Blue Mae
��..Saluda River Blue Warrior
��Rankins Blue Lead
��..Watsons Blue Mandy
��Wheats Blue Timber Ann
��Devils Creek Blue Molly
��Rogers Little Mack
��..Jefferys Blue Bowser
��Watsons Blue Maggie
��..Saluda River Blue Ark. Penny
��Vaughns Blue Buck II
��..Rogers Susie Q
��Blue Ann
Vaughns Blue Shady Lady
��Vaughns Ark. Blue Buck
��..Vaughns Blue Buck II
��Vaughns Blue Patsie II
��...Vaughns Bl Texas Buck
��Vaughns Blue Mack II
��..Vaughns Blue Nellie
��Vaughns Blue Jean
��.Vaughns Blue Drifter
��Vaughns Blue Mack II
��..Vaughns Blue Little Mack
��Vaughns Blue Susie III
��...........Vaughns Blue Dixie
��Vaughns Blue Texas Buck
��..Vaughns Blue Josie
��Lindseys Blue Ann
��Vaughns Blue Spark Of Joy
��Vaughns Blue Mack
��..Vaughns Blue Mack II
��Vaughns Blue Pearl
��...Vaughns Blue Little Mack
��Ozark Mt. Drive
��..Vaughns Blue Susie III
��Dolberrys Blue Susie II
��..Vaughns Blue Rose
��Smokey River Sundown
��..Lynchs Sundance Kid
��Stephens Blue Dottie
��..Susies Little Bl. Lady
��Loftins Tex Blue Clay
��.Tindalls Blue Bulah
��Moonshine Blue La. Belle

Luke, this one is a female. She is in NY now also... [/B]

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Posted by Wayne Valentino on 10-04-2010 06:26 PM:

you

got one sweet hound there Ken....

Posted by stewdog on 10-04-2010 06:33 PM:

Shady Lady

Should be breed to Tombstone III his grandmother is a sister to her mother.

Posted by Kenbev on 10-04-2010 07:02 PM:

Re: you

quote:
Originally posted by Wayne Valentino
got one sweet hound there Ken....

I hope to have Lady back home by Spring.

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Posted by Wayne Valentino on 10-04-2010 07:12 PM:

Re: Re: you

quote:
Originally posted by Kenbev
I hope to have Lady back home by Spring.

I'll trade ya.. My girlfriend is still doing the Sophmore thing, and makin me nuts !!!

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