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Posted by Vic Stoll on 12-19-2019 10:09 PM:

Interesting Thread & Responses!

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Originally posted by Preacher Tom
This post points out why it may be so hard to raise coon dogs. Evidently we're not all looking for the same thing. I guess I have always wanted something in the middle. A dog that hunts with a lot of hustle but nearly always strikes within hearing.

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Originally posted by Preacher Tom
To me it's funny that since Garmin we talk about dogs in terms of MPH and how many yards or miles away. I remember a time when talked about coon sense (the ability to find a coon), how fast they ran a running track (never heard anyone use MPH when talking about this) and striking within hearing. One thing that is plain and simple GPS has changed hunting and terminology.

Very true words spoken here! I guess with time, the only consistent thing is change.

In the pre-tracking collar days in my area, you just didn't see many folks toting around the go yonder style dog. Too much time spent dog hunting & not enough time treeing coon which equated to $$ being missed out on. Hide hunting was in full swing with hides bringing top $$, with many more hunters & many less coon than today.

The GPS is a fantastic tool, & takes away a lot of the guessing that went on in the pre-tracking collar & even the beep beep days. It allows being able to hunt a go yonder style dog, keep up with them, & eliminate the wasted time dog hunting.

As has been mentioned, there's something out there for everybody. The purpose for hunting & technology available of present day drive the reason for a different style of dog being more popular than the purpose & lack of technology driving the reason of yesteryear.

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 12-19-2019 10:13 PM:

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Originally posted by shadinc
Mine hunts at 2 miles per hour and trees coons. She just doesn't understand what's the big rush.

No rush at all if your just out pleasure hunting. Just don't walk hunt her or you'll pass her by... the average person walks 3-4 mph.

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Posted by shadinc on 12-19-2019 11:36 PM:

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Originally posted by Redneck Mafia
No rush at all if your just out pleasure hunting. Just don't walk hunt her or you'll pass her by... the average person walks 3-4 mph.

That's what I like about the Alpha. I know where she is and I never pass her.

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Posted by 2ol2hunt on 12-19-2019 11:57 PM:

Must be hunting blueticks.... lol 😂 ... sorry I couldn't resist!

Posted by yadkintar on 12-20-2019 12:00 AM:

My dog can moon walk as good as Michael Jackson.

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Posted by pamjohnson on 12-20-2019 12:09 AM:

Some one asked.
I hunt blue dogs mostly and have hunted double digit blue dogs not many and non that I felt was what I was looking for but there out there.

Posted by Dave Richards on 12-20-2019 12:23 AM:

Dog speed

The only number that interests me, is the number of coons treed and seen. I don't care if it's pleasure hunting or competition hunting, the number of coons treed and seen is what counts. Treeing the most coons usually wins hunts and makes for a very pleasurable hunt just pleasure hunting. Different strokes for different folks, but do not over think coon hunting. Dave

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Posted by 2ol2hunt on 12-20-2019 12:35 AM:

Posted by Preacher Tom on 12-20-2019 01:16 AM:

This is an honest question not meant to stir up controversy: Are these 13-18 MPH dogs that way when you are starting them or do they get that way? How hard is it to start a pup that goes wide and fast? Seems like I have a hard time trying to corral my pups that don't go near that hard.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 12-20-2019 01:19 AM:

Y'all have gotten me to watching my Garmin with all of this mph talk. I turned my little dog loose tonight and she struck and grubbed a cold track with only 4 or 5 lonesome bawls before she treed. The Garmin said that she traveled .5 miles at 4 mph and treed. That meant that it took her 7 1/2 min. I drove down the road and walked 75 yds to her. She had a little kitten coon. She may not be a high powered dog but I sure do like my little 4 mph dog.

Posted by novicane65 on 12-20-2019 01:26 AM:

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Originally posted by Preacher Tom
This is an honest question not meant to stir up controversy: Are these 13-18 MPH dogs that way when you are starting them or do they get that way? How hard is it to start a pup that goes wide and fast? Seems like I have a hard time trying to corral my pups that don't go near that hard.

Mr. Tom,
You can train one to operate this way to a point. You can get them to fire in fast and hard but usually the dog slows down after a short distance. Doyle and Trax both were that way naturally to my knowledge. I've seen some that could do the high rate of speeds for short distances but not all night that were trained. I honestly have no idea on how Doyle was bred. But I do know some of Trax pedigree. I'm not a pup man and probably will never be a pup man.

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Posted by novicane65 on 12-20-2019 01:30 AM:

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Y'all have gotten me to watching my Garmin with all of this mph talk. I turned my little dog loose tonight and she struck and grubbed a cold track with only 4 or 5 lonesome bawls before she treed. The Garmin said that she traveled .5 miles at 4 mph and treed. That meant that it took her 7 1/2 min. I drove down the road and walked 75 yds to her. She had a little kitten coon. She may not be a high powered dog but I sure do like my little 4 mph dog.

That's all that matters. You feed her, not me. Speed is only 1 factor of many to look at when examining performance of a dog.

Posted by Dave Richards on 12-20-2019 02:42 AM:

Eric DePue

You got that right, speed is great when they have ALL the other tools. Treeing the most coons is the name of the game and that takes way more than just being fast or hunting on the run. Dave

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Posted by Dave Richards on 12-20-2019 02:42 AM:

Eric DePue

Double post

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Posted by chainsaw on 12-20-2019 03:40 AM:

Speed

Here’s another way to look at this subject a dog can wind a track at 50 mph on the back of a truck but there not hunting a block of woods so if a dog is running at full speed in a straight line he could wind a track easy but if he is working a old track it takes time to do that

Posted by Redneck Mafia on 12-20-2019 04:46 AM:

https://www.rover.com/blog/how-fast-can-a-dog-run/

Posted by Dogwhisper on 12-20-2019 06:04 AM:

The Garmin displays an AVERAGE speed ....not how fast a dog is running/hunting

Posted by pamjohnson on 12-20-2019 02:08 PM:

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Originally posted by novicane65
The dog I'm speaking of was hunted up here for around 6 months. He won a pro classic, and several 30 and 50 entry hunts. We called him Big Doyle/ O'Doyle Rules. He wasn't everyone's type of dog. He could and did tree coons as he came to them. He was far from perfect. But he treed coons and won hunts. And he could look absolutely unbeatable at times.

O'Doyle rules that's cool

Posted by delta nightlife on 12-20-2019 02:34 PM:

Has anybody seen how fast a me to dog is I bet there fast as greased lightning

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Posted by Reuben on 12-20-2019 03:33 PM:

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Originally posted by delta nightlife
Has anybody seen how fast a me to dog is I bet there fast as greased lightning

A me too dog cannot be faster than a sure enough coon dog...but a really good one can pass up a good coon dog at the tree and get first locating bark and make it look really good...

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Posted by yadkintar on 12-20-2019 03:35 PM:

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Originally posted by Reuben
A me too dog cannot be faster than a sure enough coon dog...but a really good one can pass up a good coon dog at the tree and get first locating bark and make it look really good...

Since they do not have their nose on the ground they are able to run faster.

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 12-20-2019 04:02 PM:

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Originally posted by Dogwhisper
The Garmin displays an AVERAGE speed ....not how fast a dog is running/hunting

Yes I know. According to the that article our dogs or dogs of very similar build may be able to reach speeds of up to 30 mph for short durations.

Posted by Reuben on 12-20-2019 04:13 PM:

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Originally posted by yadkintar
Since they do not have their nose on the ground they are able to run faster.

Tar

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Posted by Reuben on 12-20-2019 04:23 PM:

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Originally posted by Redneck Mafia
Yes I know. According to the that article our dogs or dogs of very similar build may be able to reach speeds of up to 30 mph for short durations.

I agree with 30 mph...

I used to run my dogs at the beach back in my younger days and before it became popular to the public...

My 60-65 pound Mt curs at that time consistently could run 28 mph and hold that speed for at least half a mile...and the tires on my truck were slightly oversized...

I am pretty sure these dogs could probably run a mile under three minutes...

20 mph for a mile is 3 minutes and if a dog of this type was in top shape I would say it is very doable...

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Posted by shadinc on 12-20-2019 04:24 PM:

The fastest hound is the one you're trying to head off before he gets on the highway.

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