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It started a long time ago me and Sid underwood talked for along time the other day it took a few years but when they changed it to only cast winners place it hurt attendance they said cheap titles buddy they ain't ever been any cheaper than they are now plus it bennifits the kc less paperwork went up on the hunt packet to make up for what dogs don't show up and get $2 a dog off the ones that do but back in the day it kept people around the club longer to buy things out of the kitchen now they are there right before draw if they don't do any good they don't even come back to the clubhouse and Fred Miller was more hands on about his buisness but it is what it is all I can do is my best if it don't work my conscience is clear.

Tar keep me posted on your UKC hunts this year, haven't took a road trip in a while so heck me and my ol pot licker may just show up! I would enjoy picking your brain.

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I will just want to build somthing to hand down to the youngsters ain't many of us left to show them the old way of doing things but you can come anytime I get this boy out of college I am going to come see you and some others.

Tar, I'm with you on when hunt numbers started going down and agree when they stopped giving a dog a placement for finishing 2nd on the cast. I remember everybody saying it cheapened the NT. CH. title because of giving a dog a placement that didn't win his cast. We would have 12 or 15 four dog cast and even if you got a 10 place because you finished 2nd, you still had to get that first place cast win. This past weekend we had 6 dogs total 4 Nt. Ch. and 2 registered. Someone tell me why getting a win towards Nt. Ch. with only 2 dogs is so great, but getting a 9th or 10th place with 12 or 15 cast cheapens the title. I think getting that first place with 12 or more cast is certainly harder than getting it with only 2 dogs.