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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 03-21-2016 09:21 PM:

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Originally posted by Matt Marshall
I don't thank republicans for anything. All they have done is kept America suppressed. They are no better than the far left liberals.

I see. Did your union brain wash you to think like that?

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Posted by Matt Marshall on 03-21-2016 09:29 PM:

No, I don't work for a union, but I see the republicans have taken control of your brain.
I can trade insult for insult if that's the path you choose brother. All I'm saying is one group is no better than the other. No need for insults but fire away if you must.

Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 03-22-2016 02:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt Marshall
No, I don't work for a union, but I see the republicans have taken control of your brain.
I can trade insult for insult if that's the path you choose brother. All I'm saying is one group is no better than the other. No need for insults but fire away if you must.

You really took what I said as an insult? I guess when some one doesn't agree with you it's an insult... I'm going to assume you have guns yes? I would hope if you're on a hunting site you do and you can thank Republicans and the NRA for that.

You came on here asking about Kasich and you didn't like the answers us Ohioans said about him so now you want to tell us how wrong we are. Would you like me to tell you why I don't like him again?

Posted by Stan Ferrell on 03-22-2016 02:12 PM:

Why are you guys still talkin about someone who is a non issue? Stick a fork in him , Kasich is DONE.

Posted by 4play on 03-22-2016 02:15 PM:

kASICH

Admitted last night on CNN he is hoping Trump don't get the 1237.
He's hoping the "Establishment" welfare's him the nomination at the convention in Cleveland!!
He won't win any other state along the way.

The entire USA don't want him {well except 40% of Ohio},and he don't care.Take your 'participation' ribbon and go home.................

Posted by Matt Marshall on 03-22-2016 03:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
You really took what I said as an insult? I guess when some one doesn't agree with you it's an insult... I'm going to assume you have guns yes? I would hope if you're on a hunting site you do and you can thank Republicans and the NRA for that.

You came on here asking about Kasich and you didn't like the answers us Ohioans said about him so now you want to tell us how wrong we are. Would you like me to tell you why I don't like him again?

Insult came by you telling me that I was brain washed by a union because you don't agree with what I said about the Republican Party. I could care less if you agree or not but don't assume that I can't think for myself. It seems like you don't like a difference of opinion. But that's ok.
Also, I do want to know what people in Ohio think. You will not find one time that I said anyone is wrong in Ohio for not liking Kasich.

Posted by Matt Marshall on 03-22-2016 03:26 PM:

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Originally posted by Ed zachary
Why are you guys still talkin about someone who is a non issue? Stick a fork in him , Kasich is DONE.

You are correct to a point. He may not be done as far as the vp position is concerned. Guess we will see.

Posted by qchounds on 03-22-2016 03:51 PM:

you are all TOTALLY missing the main point.... Did you know that John Kasichs dad was a mailman???? lol

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Posted by Matt Marshall on 03-22-2016 04:00 PM:

Lol

Posted by 4play on 03-23-2016 02:57 PM:

Kasich wtf?

Rubio got more votes than Kasich in Arizona last night!!
He needs to drop out.Making himself look like a idiot.

Posted by Well Started on 03-23-2016 10:21 PM:

Re: Kasich wtf?

quote:
Originally posted by 4play
Rubio got more votes than Kasich in Arizona last night!!
He needs to drop out.Making himself look like a idiot.

Agreed, and get rid of early voting so that people that can't think long term, still have a vote that counts.

Rubio got over 70,500 votes. Heck Jeb Bush got over 4,000 votes. 14 candidates putting votes on the board.....a large portion of those early voters I bet wished they had a do over.

Posted by 4play on 03-24-2016 02:09 PM:

The Establishment...........

Is backing Cruz {some} now.
Kasich's free ride with 10% is gonna be ending.

Posted by rrs on 03-25-2016 03:21 PM:

The establishment backing Cruz most likely is just a way to stop and derail Trump so that the convention is locked and brokered, if that happens Cruz will not be the nominee, Speaker Ryan or might even try to resurrect Jeb- not likely, but possible. Establishment going all out now to stop Trump, money and using the media which they own and control. Trump support is solid and if they feel nomination is stolen from him may not vote or vote for 3rd party, if this happens GOP has performed suicide and elected Hillary....

Posted by rrs on 03-25-2016 03:21 PM:

Posted by Stan Ferrell on 03-25-2016 08:24 PM:

Its amazing, The GOP has been handed a gift named Donald Trump and they are doing everything they can to screw it up.
Finally we (conservatives) have a candidate that IS inspiring people to get out and vote, and the established GOP is gonna screw it up.

Posted by Well Started on 03-25-2016 08:56 PM:

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Originally posted by Ed zachary
Its amazing, The GOP has been handed a gift named Donald Trump and they are doing everything they can to screw it up.
Finally we (conservatives) have a candidate that IS inspiring people to get out and vote, and the established GOP is gonna screw it up.

Who's they? And what are they doing to screw it up?

So far it's voters. Trump has yet to hit 50% in any state he's won. There are more votes and delegates that have gone against Trump, then for.

Any candidate that wants to win the nomination outright including both Trump and Cruz, needs to get to 1237.

Short of that for anybody, then rules that have been in place for 160 yrs will be in effect. The minority does not get the nomination. Never has.

The delegates from each state, not the established GOP will vote 1st ballot, if nobody yet has a majority it will go to second ballot, so on and so forth until somebody has a majority.

Now if the GOP parachutes a nominee in that isn't even on the ballot, that's a different story, but I don't think they are that stupid.

As long as the procedure follows the rules already in place, I'm fine with it. Whoever ends up winning, it is what it is. That eliminates Kasich by the way, because the rules are you have to have won 8 states. So I don't know what he's thinking. He would literally have to steal it circumventing the rules.

Abraham Lincoln won the majority at the convention on the third ballot. It's happened before.

Posted by rrs on 03-25-2016 09:12 PM:

Rules are subject to change at the convention, many delegates just place holders and will do as told to do, hard to get 50% or more with lot of candidates in play, establishment will do what it takes to nominate who they want, but will measure defection from the party against what ever action they might take. If the speculative Cruz sex scandals prove to be true he is done, National Enquirer not always full truth for sure, but their outing of high level political types have to date been on target, nominee should be selected by voters and not by journalism of big money, time will tell....

Posted by 4play on 03-25-2016 09:43 PM:

Wasting time debating Trump

He will get the 1237 and end all the crying.

Posted by Well Started on 03-25-2016 11:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by rrs
Rules are subject to change at the convention, many delegates just place holders and will do as told to do, hard to get 50% or more with lot of candidates in play, establishment will do what it takes to nominate who they want, but will measure defection from the party against what ever action they might take. If the speculative Cruz sex scandals prove to be true he is done, National Enquirer not always full truth for sure, but their outing of high level political types have to date been on target, nominee should be selected by voters and not by journalism of big money, time will tell....

Huh. Odd, there were 11 candidates in 2012 and still 4 candidates running last time from Feb on...........Rick Santorum didn't drop out until the second week of April, and Gingrich didn't drop out until May. Romney was winning states in the 60%-70% range.

The last part of your post is accurate. If true I'd say he's done, for many reasons, not the least of which it's not the type of person he's portrayed. Trump it wouldn't matter of course. He's already written a book bragging about having affairs and sleeping with married women.

Posted by rrs on 03-25-2016 11:32 PM:

The GOP establishment and mainstream pacs supported Romney, not happening this time, nation is more divided and fed up with politics as usual which have given rise to Trump, believe more are anti status quo and actually less for Trump, but see him as change from failed gov't. that has run Washington for many years. Wait and see....

Posted by Well Started on 03-25-2016 11:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by rrs
The GOP establishment and mainstream pacs supported Romney, not happening this time, nation is more divided and fed up with politics as usual which have given rise to Trump, believe more are anti status quo and actually less for Trump, but see him as change from failed gov't. that has run Washington for many years. Wait and see....

Well the fully backed GOP candidates have dropped like a stone this cycle the voters aren't having it, so I don't see how that theory of why Trump hasn't broke 50% holds water, but it's just differing opinions.

Posted by ringtail on 03-26-2016 02:01 AM:

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Originally posted by Well Started
If true I'd say he's done, for many reasons, not the least of which it's not the type of person he's portrayed. Trump it wouldn't matter of course......

If and that's a big IF, it's true you're right I don't think he can recover..... However, I absolutely will not believe it is true unless Ted comes out and says it is.... I wouldn't believe anything printed in any of those goofy tabloids! I can't believe anybody puts any stock in anything they print. I can't figure out how they are still in business.

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Posted by Well Started on 03-26-2016 02:39 AM:

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Originally posted by ringtail
If and that's a big IF, it's true you're right I don't think he can recover..... However, I absolutely will not believe it is true unless Ted comes out and says it is.... I wouldn't believe anything printed in any of those goofy tabloids! I can't believe anybody puts any stock in anything they print. I can't figure out how they are still in business.

WHAAAT? Your not instinctively taking the National Enquirer as gospel?

C'mon. This is the same magazine that I just read that has recently purported to �out� a number of celebrities, discovered unsubstantiated cheating scandals, prematurely predicted the imminent deaths of Hillary Clinton, Angelina Jolie, Cher and Oprah Winfrey (just to name a few), claimed repeatedly that President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama were on the brink of divorce, that the Obama daughters were embroiled in a cocaine scandal, and accused comedian Bill Cosby of plotting the murder of his own son.

I do not understand your skepticism??

Posted by ringtail on 03-26-2016 02:49 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Well Started
WHAAAT? Your not instinctively taking the National Enquirer as gospel?

C'mon. This is the same magazine that I just read that has recently purported to �out� a number of celebrities, discovered unsubstantiated cheating scandals, prematurely predicted the imminent deaths of Hillary Clinton, Angelina Jolie, Cher and Oprah Winfrey (just to name a few), claimed repeatedly that President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama were on the brink of divorce, that the Obama daughters were embroiled in a cocaine scandal, and accused comedian Bill Cosby of plotting the murder of his own son.

I do not understand your skepticism??

Maybe you're right... Maybe I need to be more open minded. I'll try to work on that... To prove it I'm going out 1st thing in the morning and purchase a copy.. Lol

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Posted by berger on 03-26-2016 03:10 AM:

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Originally posted by Well Started
Well the fully backed GOP candidates have dropped like a stone this cycle the voters aren't having it, so I don't see how that theory of why Trump hasn't broke 50% holds water, but it's just differing opinions.

I am surprised for someone like you that knows all about polls and numbers you have not figured out why he hasn't broke 50%. It is called the silent majority. These are folks that usually don't vote for candidates in the primaries. You saw a little bit of this 4 yrs. ago but not at this level and most of it went for Newt. The political conservative vote was split between Santorum and Newt and most of the common sense conservative vote went to Newt. The problem was Newt couldn't energize the silent majority because he was still seen as a insider. he didn't talk about the issues facing everyday American workers, illegal immigration, securing Our borders, bringing our jobs back from over seas putting America back to work and making it Great. See we have 2 different conservative groups in America, we have the Political Conservatives and then we have the common sense conservatives these are the silent majority. The political Conservatives are Beck, Rush, CPAC, they have been preaching the conservative movement for one reason. They are trying to be the power in Washington they want to be the Elites with the Power. Would they be better then the Establishment now yes they probably would be for a short time then they would be just corrupt as what is in there now. These are the same Polical conservative hacks that are talking a 3rd party candidate if Trump is the nomination. Why?? Because when Trump gets elected president this Political Conservative Group will loose all the power in the republican party that they have been working on for the last 10 to 15yrs. Why?? because Trump brings common Sense Conservative ideas to the table. Common Sense Conservatives aren't a party they are the silent majority from every race, age, political party, hard working legal Americans and legal immigrants. This would ruin the Political Conservative Party as when Trump becomes President, this will ruin the Elite Democrat party, The Elite Republican party, the socialist party and also ruin the Political Conservative Group. The reason why is then Washington will work for Americans instead of Americans working for Washington. This is why every politician, from socialist, democrat, republican and conservative and even the Elite news Media are trying to stop Trump.

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