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Posted by Wingman66 on 07-31-2013 03:13 AM:

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Originally posted by Lee Stocking
AND stick to the subject don't come in once in a while acting all "BILLY the bull" on us throwing your weight around. Bring something useful to the table

Track, about insurance I don't think your to far off base but I don't think your trying to understand. Many many small business's "start up" business's cant afford to offer insurance right off the starting line. Some of them need time to build enough equity for a insurance program. Ive been hired before KNOWING we may not have insurance for a few years. Some of that was based on MY work ethics because I was a player in the success of that company.

Most big Corporations these days do take care of their employees. I don't like this statement any better than you but manufacturing will always follow cheap labor. Some manufacturing is coming back home for several reasons IE shipping cost..Asia westernizing ect...

I don't have the insurance problem figured out, we know its a problem. As I stated for big Gov..STAY OUT OF MY CRACK I don't need Uncle Sam running my life and THATS what this country was partially founded on. Private sector

'Billy the bull' eh? You drinking at work? It was just a comment not a jawbreaker don't take it so hard. :-) 's back.

Maybe 'start up' companies shouldn't 'need time' to build equity. Smart 'start up' companies should have had a business plan before they started up. Sounds like poor business skills to me and sounds like a business that ends up on the 'Hill' ... with their hands out ... saying gimmie, gimmie, gimmie ... with a private jet waiting take them home ... on their customers money ... who held up their end of the 'deal' ... and paid them every single dime they owed.

But hey, that's just me, and the truth. What do we know?

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Posted by Lee Stocking on 07-31-2013 03:20 AM:

I don't think you know much and I think your way to up-tight. I think the only reason you want to come in here is to argue and no reasoning. That's what I think of you...

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Posted by Wingman66 on 07-31-2013 04:11 AM:

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Originally posted by Lee Stocking
I don't think you know much and I think your way to up-tight. I think the only reason you want to come in here is to argue and no reasoning. That's what I think of you...

Well... and who is the up-tight one here again?

Posted by conhtr1 on 07-31-2013 04:28 AM:

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Originally posted by Wingman66
Thanks Track. Thoughtful of you to say that, and I want you know that I personally appreciate it.

Nice try yourself, but as usual with right wingers your agendas outweigh the cold hard truth. We all know they should never had been bailed out, repub's and dem's alike. What few seem to understand is that 'big business' had no right to go running to the government asking for bailout to EVEN START with. The government isn't a bank. The government is suppose to be 'We the people' not a place for loans. Sure, Obama and bush both are to blame for being just dumb enough to hand it over to those clowns who got paid bonuses for running their companies in the ground. Heck for 8 million a year for the rest of my life, I myself could run a company so far in the ground, they would have to look up just to see down.

We agree they should never have been bailed out same way they should stay out of mandates for insurance. Let the managers manage and win or lose let them live with the results....just like we as individuals.

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Posted by Lee Stocking on 07-31-2013 04:43 AM:

Are you kidding? Dictators don't allow that they want control over everything

Posted by Wingman66 on 07-31-2013 04:49 AM:

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Originally posted by conhtr1
We agree they should never have been bailed out same way they should stay out of mandates for insurance. Let the managers manage and win or lose let them live with the results....just like we as individuals.

That's true. We do agree they should never have been bailed out. I do however think that 'big business' had no right to go asking in the first place. I also believe that 'We the people' have no right to ask the government for insurance either. I certainly didn't ask Obama, the government, or my local Town Hall for it, and I will assume that you didn't either. The truth is why would anybody complain about fellow Americans asking for 'insurance' any more than they would what big business ask for? (Not you personally but just read some of the comments) The government has the same right (they seem to think) to say 'No' to the big business as they do the people. It's sad that they said 'Yes' to both, but like it or not, that's the government for you. The truth is welfare numbers don't scare me to the point "I'm ASHAMED Of Way AMERICA HAS CHANGED" at all. Concerned? Yes I'm concerned. Ashamed of America? Good grief not at all. I understand I'm about three months away at any given moment for the rest of my life to be right there in the welfare line with them.

Posted by Wingman66 on 07-31-2013 04:59 AM:

We don't live under dictators. It's called the President of the United States. We hold elections every four years and whoever gets the majority of the vote, wins. (unless your last name is bush) Like it or not welcome to the USA folks. If you don't like it here, china is always a option, maybe russia. The weather is brutal, but I hear the women are beautiful and plenty of vodka for the least desirable ones.

Posted by plottpower on 07-31-2013 05:01 AM:

Instead of worrying about Hillary, we conservatives need to figure out who we are gonna put in there to run. We are getting to be like the Dems, a bunch of sad ass excuses.

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Posted by rance56 on 07-31-2013 01:29 PM:

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Originally posted by trackdriver
If you have it so hard why are you in business?

i dont own my own business first off. and second, it took 4 years of college, 12 years of relevant work experience, multiple professional licenses, and thousands of dollars of student loans to get my white collar job i have now. no one else in family went to college or has since. if i can do it, anyone can that wants to earn it.

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Posted by Lee Stocking on 07-31-2013 02:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Wingman66
We don't live under dictators. It's called the President of the United States. We hold elections every four years and whoever gets the majority of the vote, wins. (unless your last name is bush) Like it or not welcome to the USA folks. If you don't like it here, china is always a option, maybe russia. The weather is brutal, but I hear the women are beautiful and plenty of vodka for the least desirable ones.

Yes your absolutely correct and many of us don't like what the future is telling us so we the people need to communicate to insure our country doesn't end up a dictatorship. Mr Brush has been ssccrreeaammiinngg at the board telling us to open our eyes.

Wing (Ill have to apologize I don't know your name) I have been to China for work and I go to China again for the Berkshire Hathaway Inc. one of my vendors. If you have any questions regarding Chinas dictatorship I might be able to fill you in once I return.

Posted by Triple K Kennel on 07-31-2013 03:21 PM:

True.......

quote:
Originally posted by plottpower
Instead of worrying about Hillary, we conservatives need to figure out who we are gonna put in there to run. We are getting to be like the Dems, a bunch of sad ass excuses.

This is what cost the GOP the last 2 elections, and will cost them the next 2 as well.
Obama played a Smart campaign, and Mitt was sticking his foot in his mouth Every time he opened it.
That's your opinion on Dems being sad azz excuses, but you guys stuck Mitt in to run, so which party is Sad Azz Excuse ?.....

......

You guys better think long and hard who you will get to run against Hilary, with Bill behind her, and a good running mate, she will be a PowerHouse to beat..........

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Posted by Lee Stocking on 07-31-2013 03:57 PM:

I like the way you use " YOU, YOU GUYS" that sorta fills "US" in on where you might stand? .I still see it as "WE THE PEOPLE".

Hillary will run, she is the agenda to take more of our rights by the Democratic party.

Posted by Triple K Kennel on 07-31-2013 04:16 PM:

Lee......

quote:
Originally posted by Lee Stocking
I like the way you use " YOU, YOU GUYS" that sorta fills "US" in on where you might stand? .I still see it as "WE THE PEOPLE".

Hillary will run, she is the agenda to take more of our rights by the Democratic party.

When I say You Guys, just means the ones that voted for Mitt, nothing more, nothing less. What rights have you lost under Obama, under Clinton, under Carter, etc. etc. ?....... None I suspect.
It's Not "We the People" any more, this Country is too Party devided for that.
Where I stand.....I let my Heart and "Gut Feeling" guide me in most of my decisions thru life.

If by chance the Ex Republican Govenor of Indiana ( Mitch Daniels )...would run for President, he would get my Vote.
But, once again, I suspect the GOP will come in with a not so great nominee and start the scandals and lies on Hilary, just like they did with the birther issues, the lies that Chrysler was moving over seas, that Obama was a Muslim and a Terrorist, and letting the likes of Rush and The Donald run them in the ground and cost them the election.......we will see.....!!!

Posted by Triple K Kennel on 07-31-2013 06:23 PM:

Our Elected......!!!

There are SO MANY problems in our Country, But Most start with our Elected Dipshi++ we put in office...."We The People" elect them, the working tax payer pays their salary, pays for their insurance, and all the Perks that come with the job, then when they get elected....they forget about the job they were hired for.
You can't tell me that with all the Brains Combined of these elected by The People can't come up with some solutions for the Many problems that our Country has faced over the years.......Like :

Lobbiest ( not sure on spelling ).....They have to GO....!!!

Securing our borders, we can send a man to the moon but we can't come up with a plan to keep people out that do not want to go thru our process of becoming a citizen.

Welfare reform.....Welfare should only be used in last resort circumstance's, not as a gimme gimme more. There should never have to be a kid go hungry in our Country, stop most foreign Aid Until our Own are taken care of first..!!
Welfare should be in the form of some kind of card, to pay bills or rent, clothes, etc.......NOT to buy Alcohol, Cigarette's, etc.....just eliminate giving a check to welfare recipient's, it should be like a debit card.
Welfare should have term limits, with Mandatory drug testing.

Come up with a Sensable solution to our HealthCare problems, something that will help our sick and elderly, not burden them.

Take care of our Service Men and Women and ALL Veterens .......

There are solutions to ALL these problems guys, but No one cares enough to fix them............All We want to do is argue and bicker about which of the Worthless is best for this Country, in order for anything to work, there has to be a plan, and people working together to make it work.....!!!

Posted by brushrunretiree on 07-31-2013 07:48 PM:

Triple K, Lobbyists Will Always Be Granted Access to The Congressmen And Women. How Else Will Big Business Control AMERICA. My Problem Is Not So Much With Big Business, If The Congress Would Cut Out The Subsidies And Perks. My Problem Is With The Money Men Who Rule The Parties. i.e. George Soros, etc. I Don't Like The Issue Of Drug Testing Welfare Recipients, Until They Figure Out How To Keep The Spouses And Children From Suffering Because The Person On The Register Is Under The Influence. In My Opinion, Healthcare Would Be Greatly Improved , Just By Letting Insurance Companies Be Able To Sell Policies Across State Lines. I Believe That And That Alone Would Make A Big Difference In the Business. I Don't Believe The Government Wants The Borders Secure, Look At The Potential Voters There, For Their Party. I Also Believe There's Common Sense Solutions To Most Of The Countries Problems. And I Also Believe You're Right On About Me, I Get Worked Up About The Person, Whomever They May Be, In The White House. I Complain About The Democrat Party Because They're In Power And Will Be For Years And Years. Notice I Said Democrat Party Instead Of Democratic Party, Because I Don't Think Anything They Do Is Democratic!!! My Moods Swing A Lot Due To Medication I Take For Veteran Related Issues. Probably The Best Thing For Me To Do Is Become A Reader Instead Of A Blogger. I Was Told Once To Take My Stuff To Facebook, Maybe I Will!!

Posted by GA DAWG on 07-31-2013 11:29 PM:

I honestly didn't know it was us right wingers that thought the bail outs was a good thing. Heck far. I been blaming the left wing president and his bunch of Dems and those crazy tailed unions for that. I'll agree with wing never should of happened. I also liked what he said about liking the good ol usa or leaving it. Course I think we should run some of them out. That includes the big man in Washington.

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Posted by trackdriver on 07-31-2013 11:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by rance56
i dont own my own business first off. and second, it took 4 years of college, 12 years of relevant work experience, multiple professional licenses, and thousands of dollars of student loans to get my white collar job i have now. no one else in family went to college or has since. if i can do it, anyone can that wants to earn it.

My hats off to ya for finishing and your service.

Posted by chuck west on 07-31-2013 11:44 PM:

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Originally posted by brushrunretiree
Yes track, I worked in the Construction Trade When I got out of High School back in The 60's. I Worked As A Boilermaker in The Mid-.Late 70's. I Went To Work At PPG in The Last Of The 70's I .Worked There For 27 Years. I Had Cancer Surgery In The Early 90's. I, As Mr. Stocking, Am A Cancer Survivor of 15 Years. Everywhere I Worked Provided Health Insurance. The Boilermaker's Took A $1.50 per hour Worked As Health And Welfare. Then Gave It To You In The Early Days Of Dec. You Had To Work So Many Hours To Obtain Your Health Insurance. I Was Working At WILLOW ISLAND POWER PLANT When The Number Two Cooling Tower Fell In, Killing 51 People. That Bothered Me More Than Loading Body Bags On Choppers in Viet Nam. So Being A Veteran, An AMERICAN, Who Believes In Good Old Fashion Work Ethics, CRINGE When I Hear The Welfare Numbers, The Food Stamp Numbers. The American Dream Has Slowly Vanished And I'm ASHAMED Of Way AMERICA HAS CHANGED!! Yes, I've Worked When Democrats Were In The White House, I've Worked When Republican's Have Been In The White House And Now I've Worked When A SOCIALIST HAS BEEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!

Yeah that was a bad day when that cooling tower came down, I worked there from 75 to 79 .

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Posted by brushrunretiree on 08-01-2013 12:00 AM:

I was working for Foster/Wheeler on The Boiler. I was Up @90 feet when it fell in. It Shook The Whole Thing. They Came Across the Loud Speaker Requesting All Baskets And Blankets be Brought To Number Two Cooling Tower. If My Memory Is Right, They Officially Closed The Job Down @ 11:30. When We Walked Across The Bridge To The Parking Lot, There Was TV Camera's From Every Station In The Area. Announcer's Were Asking Everyone For Eye Witness Accounts, You Want To Be On TV??. To See The Wives And Families Standing There Crying, Tore Me Up Worse Than Anything I Ever Experienced In Viet Nam. Our Carpool Stopped At That Go-Mart Just Above The Job And We Bought Two Cases Of Beer. That's The Only Time I Got Kissed For Coming Home Drunk! It Tears Me Up Just Writing About It. Who Were You Working For??

Posted by brushrunretiree on 08-01-2013 12:07 AM:

The Congressional Budget Office released an estimate today that predicts the delay will increase federal spending by $3 billion in 2014, reduce federal revenues by a net $9 billion, and add $12 billion more in debt than previously estimated.

Oh, and the CBO also predicts that the delay will shuffle an additional 500,000 Americans into welfare programs and government-run exchanges.

Elsewhere, Betsy McCaughey argues that the Founding Fathers' remedy for the presidential lawlessness we've seen regarding Obamacare implementation is defunding.

Posted by chuck west on 08-01-2013 12:29 AM:

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Originally posted by brushrunretiree
I was working for Foster/Wheeler on The Boiler. I was Up @90 feet when it fell in. It Shook The Whole Thing. They Came Across the Loud Speaker Requesting All Baskets And Blankets be Brought To Number Two Cooling Tower. If My Memory Is Right, They Officially Closed The Job Down @ 11:30. When We Walked Across The Bridge To The Parking Lot, There Was TV Camera's From Every Station In The Area. Announcer's Were Asking Everyone For Eye Witness Accounts, You Want To Be On TV??. To See The Wives And Families Standing There Crying, Tore Me Up Worse Than Anything I Ever Experienced In Viet Nam. Our Carpool Stopped At That Go-Mart Just Above The Job And We Bought Two Cases Of Beer. That's The Only Time I Got Kissed For Coming Home Drunk! It Tears Me Up Just Writing About It. Who Were You Working For??

I worked for United Eng. I was working in the back side of the precipitators when it came down sound like a train switching cars if you've ever heard that. I told my crew to grab all the blankets and stretchers and meet me over there,,there was still chunks of concrete falling when I found my first 3 bodies .

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Posted by brushrunretiree on 08-01-2013 03:12 AM:

I remember United Engineering. You Know It Took About Ten Years For OSHA To Finally Rule On The Cause Of The Tower Collapsing. The Concrete Contractor Went Out Of Business, Almost Immediately. But OSHA Ruled That The Concrete Company Had Been Using Faulty Cement. When I Got There , Which Wasn't Very Long After It Fell In, While Digging In The Concrete With Our Bare Hands, The Concrete Was Cold!! I'm Sure You Know That Concrete Sets Up Due To The Chemical Reaction Caused By Water, Cement And Friction. The Diggings Should've Been Warm Or Hot Due To The Reaction, But It Was Cold, As I Said Before. The Company Made Us Go Back On The Boiler First Thing The Next Morning. They Said, The Longer You Take, Going Back Up, The Harder It'll Be Going Back Up. I'm Sure You Know Boilers Are Hung, Not Built From The Ground Up. We Start On The Top And Hang It From Top On Down. The Fire Boxes were On Like The Fourth Or Fifth Floor. It Was A Good Job, I Made More Money Working There Than I Had Ever Made, Up To That Point.

Posted by conhtr1 on 08-02-2013 01:20 PM:

Re: Our Elected......!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Triple K Kennel
There are SO MANY problems in our Country, But Most start with our Elected Dipshi++ we put in office...."We The People" elect them, the working tax payer pays their salary, pays for their insurance, and all the Perks that come with the job, then when they get elected....they forget about the job they were hired for.
You can't tell me that with all the Brains Combined of these elected by The People can't come up with some solutions for the Many problems that our Country has faced over the years.......Like :

Lobbiest ( not sure on spelling ).....They have to GO....!!!

Securing our borders, we can send a man to the moon but we can't come up with a plan to keep people out that do not want to go thru our process of becoming a citizen.

Welfare reform.....Welfare should only be used in last resort circumstance's, not as a gimme gimme more. There should never have to be a kid go hungry in our Country, stop most foreign Aid Until our Own are taken care of first..!!
Welfare should be in the form of some kind of card, to pay bills or rent, clothes, etc.......NOT to buy Alcohol, Cigarette's, etc.....just eliminate giving a check to welfare recipient's, it should be like a debit card.
Welfare should have term limits, with Mandatory drug testing.

Come up with a Sensable solution to our HealthCare problems, something that will help our sick and elderly, not burden them.

Take care of our Service Men and Women and ALL Veterens .......

There are solutions to ALL these problems guys, but No one cares enough to fix them............All We want to do is argue and bicker about which of the Worthless is best for this Country, in order for anything to work, there has to be a plan, and people working together to make it work.....!!!

Ok, I think Triple K had his UKC account hacked. Actually sounds like a Republican here. You best change your password!

Posted by Triple K Kennel on 08-02-2013 01:32 PM:

Re: Re: Our Elected......!!!

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Originally posted by conhtr1
Ok, I think Triple K had his UKC account hacked. Actually sounds like a Republican here. You best change your password!

Nope, wasn't hacked, it is Triple K ( Tim )...........
Just wrote how I feel.............
It gets sickening watching the blame game and all Elected sitting on their butts and not giving a good days work for a good wage......WORTHLESS !!!

Posted by conhtr1 on 08-03-2013 01:42 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Our Elected......!!!

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Originally posted by Triple K Kennel
Nope, wasn't hacked, it is Triple K ( Tim )...........
Just wrote how I feel.............
It gets sickening watching the blame game and all Elected sitting on their butts and not giving a good days work for a good wage......WORTHLESS !!!

Agreed!

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