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I know a few dogs that were titled in ukc for being a first strike second tree dog I don't know why some people get offended by this stuff and I've been to more hunts then people get me credit for because I'm young I don't know what I'm talken about when it comes to this. pkc was started basicaly for guys who had gotten barred from ukc but still wanted to comp hunt a kennel though few will admit it because can't nobody be honest because they are afraid of maken a dog look bad or people looken at their stud bad because so and so said this about this club etc there is good and bad in all kennel clubs just because that dogs a grand night does not mean he is a coon dog just a much as him being a champion in pkc means he a coon dog you can win a pkc cast with no coon being seen that night its designed to have a winner in every cast and someone sayen you can't is just lien to themselves
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FRANENSTIEN
I HUNT UKC SIR AND HUNTED PKC ALSO MADE MANY GRAND NITES AND NITE CHAMPIONS I HAVE HUNTED AKC TOO NOT MUCH THAT I HAVE NOT DONE INTHE HUNTS EXCEPT WIN THE WORLD PLACED A COUPLE TIMES WAS IN THE FINAL 4 IN PKC PLOTT DAYS IN 02 NOTHING BIG
WHATS YHE DIFFERENCE
JUST THE DOG TRAINING SIR THATS ALL WERE ARE YOU LOCATED IM IN OHIO TOWARD INDIANA
Re: FRANENSTIEN
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Originally posted by boxmanwillie
I HUNT UKC SIR AND HUNTED PKC ALSO MADE MANY GRAND NITES AND NITE CHAMPIONS I HAVE HUNTED AKC TOO NOT MUCH THAT I HAVE NOT DONE INTHE HUNTS EXCEPT WIN THE WORLD PLACED A COUPLE TIMES WAS IN THE FINAL 4 IN PKC PLOTT DAYS IN 02 NOTHING BIG
i hunt from time to time with a guy who hunts plotts i love the dogs for their heart they have i give him hell sayen he cant title them dogs but he does and sells pups to alot of bear hunters i just like my good ole walker dogs although im not afraid to say it they are going to s&^% and its a shame lipper was a freak of nature to put it that way sad thing is there will never be a dog impact the breed like lipper or ten. lead because of the mind set people have ever since lipper came out it was if you wasnt hunting something that went back or out of lipper dog you wasnt gonna win or a house dog you wasnt gonna win then it went to sackett jr then rat etc im a firm believer if it aint broke dont fix it but it doesnt hurt to have a tune up from time to time to help the breed
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Re: WHATS YHE DIFFERENCE
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Originally posted by boxmanwillie
JUST THE DOG TRAINING SIR THATS ALL WERE ARE YOU LOCATED IM IN OHIO TOWARD INDIANA
A COONDOG IS A COONDOG and can win in any registry.
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Originally posted by Bobby Reynolds
A COONDOG IS A COONDOG and can win in any registry.
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Slobber mouth. I totally disagree with you on the Lipper dogs. You aren't old enough to have hunted with many but I have and owned some. House Clint was a much better dog and reproducer. I can say they were loud tree dogs but that's about all that I saw was good about his offspring. His grand sons were much better than sons or daughters. I guess It thinned the blood some. At the time Lipper hit the big time there really was much out there. That doesn't say much for the walker breed at the time. Just for the record .... I didn't like Sackett jr pups either.
quote:heck i've seem'm plussed just so they could say ''got a win'' .
Originally posted by Ashley Pratt
I've seen some pretty slick trees circled in UKC. Ain't much you can do when 3 dogs on it and yours ain't. Pretty sure you know how the vote went LMAO.
quote:lol u aint lying. ill give ya 15,000 for him since he only got a couple yrs left in him.
Originally posted by watauga river
no he aint a 20,000 dog.. Figure of speech smart a$$ just sayin he is accurate. If he wasn't he wouldn't be here we don't walk these mountains to slick trees.
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FRANENSTIEN
YOUR NOT TO FAR FROM ME LOL LETS SEE WHAT KIND OF DOG POWER YA HAVE I HUNT BROOKVILLE LAKE LETS HOOK UP AND TURN LOOSE ONE AT A TIME LOL
If you don't think a PKC dog can tree a coon go for a hunt with the current champion Hardtime Awesome. Hunted many nights with him and Randy in the
mountains and saw a lot of coons. He is not ill or junky. Randy hunts hard and knows a coondog.
As far as the original question, I trained a female off of Elvis that was not ill but
obviously did not get her brains from his genes. I hunted with a male off of him that was a me too ill tree dog. Are they all ill? No but I have heard a lot of stories.
In my opinion a smart dog will not fight at the tree but will back off and stay out of range of the fangs. I love a dog to sit on its butt about eight feet off the tree and stay out of trouble. Most don't have those kinda brains anymore.
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quote:ive said that along time ago and dern did it hurt some guys feelens they said that never happens in the hunts! haha
Originally posted by walkerdog1
ukc minus or plus my foot try to get a ukc cast to take minus is like trying to findy hens teeth not always but a lot time. I've seen many spider eyes plused if you got a dog that trees coon and is not a me to dog those are easy cast to win
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nc coonhunter if i hunted a dog that stayed 8 foot off the tree id send it on down the road not because it wasnt a coon dog i just cant stand a dog to do that i dont mind one moven around the tree given a mean dog its space or vice versa but it better be on the wood holding its own when i get there a dog that is up on the wood and will move around the tree to give a dog its space and to have its on space is just as smart as the dog treeing 8 foot off the tree but i believe the dog on the wood has more tree pressure then the 8 footer so therefore i want have dogs that get ran off the tree in my future breedings of that blood. everybody is allowed to hunt what they like i just wouldnt like a dog that does that.
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quote:I've hunted with a lot of dogs that tree on their but most dogs like that don't move but i don't realy like one to be that far off a tree
Originally posted by slobbermouth21
nc coonhunter if i hunted a dog that stayed 8 foot off the tree id send it on down the road not because it wasnt a coon dog i just cant stand a dog to do that i dont mind one moven around the tree given a mean dog its space or vice versa but it better be on the wood holding its own when i get there a dog that is up on the wood and will move around the tree to give a dog its space and to have its on space is just as smart as the dog treeing 8 foot off the tree but i believe the dog on the wood has more tree pressure then the 8 footer so therefore i want have dogs that get ran off the tree in my future breedings of that blood. everybody is allowed to hunt what they like i just wouldnt like a dog that does that.
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Personally the roughness you guys speak of is coming from Elvis' mothers side via Maniac. You rarely hear of Rat dogs being rough and I have hunted against Maniac more the once in the day, He definately wasn't an angel. With that being said how many rough Swamp dogs have you seen ,Swamp and Elvis' mother were full brother and sister.
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quote:seen more ill swamp dogs than elvis dogs i went to ky about two years ago picked up a double swamp male for a buddy as far as treeing coon he was top notch but would not let any thing on tree with him male or female he was three and should have never made it that long imo
Originally posted by Frankenstein
Personally the roughness you guys speak of is coming from Elvis' mothers side via Maniac. You rarely hear of Rat dogs being rough and I have hunted against Maniac more the once in the day, He definately wasn't an angel. With that being said how many rough Swamp dogs have you seen ,Swamp and Elvis' mother were full brother and sister.
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MAN TC!U sure can make a interesting post.This post has went way off topic.Only thing ive noticed about pkc guys is they dont like to go pleasure huntin with me more than once.LoL.I like to see a good hound i dont care what hunts they go to.If there a coondog ill be glad to say it.Ol Elvis sure was a smart dog and was good at treein coon.
MANIAC DOGS ROUGH
FRANKENSTIEN YOU MUST BE NEW TO THE GAME MANIAC DOGS ARE NOT ROUGH I DO HUNT WITH JAY HYDE I WAS UP THERE TWO WEEKS AGO HUNTED IN THE HARD RAIN WE KILLED 10 SINGLES JAY WILL NOT KEEP A ILL HOUND
quote:i herd clint was to im i was just sayen that was the mind set alot of comp hunters had and still do thats while alot of comp dogs are bred the same they might not go back to the same dog but it will be a litter mate or a cuzzen etc its just a mind set while i have a mind set of if ole billy bob with his no name coondog had the money to campaigne these dogs and put them in as much hunts as these big dogs ole billy bob could have a world beater but dont have the time or money to do that so he just pleasure hunts thats why you will always hear my say ill breed to a pr dog just as quick if not faster then a dog with alot of titles infront of his name to some it tells them he must be a coondog to me it just tells me my owner put me in alot of hunts doesnt mean im eny better then billy bobs no namer i could be worse you never know i just always have my mind going on this stuff i geuss thats why my buddys call me the mad scientest because id cross a dern beagle on a walker if i thought i would get a dern coondog or something that woud aid me in dog hunting
Originally posted by cody jaster
Slobber mouth. I totally disagree with you on the Lipper dogs. You aren't old enough to have hunted with many but I have and owned some. House Clint was a much better dog and reproducer. I can say they were loud tree dogs but that's about all that I saw was good about his offspring. His grand sons were much better than sons or daughters. I guess It thinned the blood some. At the time Lipper hit the big time there really was much out there. That doesn't say much for the walker breed at the time. Just for the record .... I didn't like Sackett jr pups either.
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I agree with Cody ,I liked pups out of Clint much better than Lipper or Lawyer.
Re: MANIAC DOGS ROUGH
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Originally posted by boxmanwillie
FRANKENSTIEN YOU MUST BE NEW TO THE GAME MANIAC DOGS ARE NOT ROUGH I DO HUNT WITH JAY HYDE I WAS UP THERE TWO WEEKS AGO HUNTED IN THE HARD RAIN WE KILLED 10 SINGLES JAY WILL NOT KEEP A ILL HOUND
Re: FRANENSTIEN
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Originally posted by boxmanwillie
YOUR NOT TO FAR FROM ME LOL LETS SEE WHAT KIND OF DOG POWER YA HAVE I HUNT BROOKVILLE LAKE LETS HOOK UP AND TURN LOOSE ONE AT A TIME LOL
frank id like to come up that way when i got the time to and hunt with you idc whos dog is better id just like to hunt with you and plus you would know the lay of the land were you are better! haha
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