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Posted by Knox on 09-19-2012 05:09 AM:

Re: Obamas America

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Originally posted by EFranks
At the first of the month you see a 80,000.00 escalade pull up at the grocery store, park in a handicap parking space, with a handicap sticker, a young 20 something guy gets out looks like he just left the gym with bounce in his step goes in the grocery store with his wife and buys2 buggies full of groceries with their ebt cards and the cashier tells him that he couldn't buy dog food with his card..... So he takes the dog food back gets 5 more packs of ribeyes and tells the cashier that his dogs can eat steak instead... I seen this happen

?.........I don't believe you you witnessed this, what did you do, see this guy park his car, you followed him thru the store, watch him fill these 2 carts, in line with him to hear the conversation between him and the cashier, wait for him to take the dog food back and return with the steaks, what were you doing Stalking him ........LOL...??............I think this is all a Lie, could it be ?.........No, surely not....

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Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-19-2012 05:09 AM:

Excuse me? I have never been on unemployment , welfare, or paid with anything with a foodstamp. I used a program that was available to me and that my tax dollars goes to as well. I pay dang near 1000 a week in taxes. Do you pay that much? I work 50+ hours a week and bust my butt so my wife can stay home and raise our kids. If you had a 20k hospital bill and you were eligle for a program that YOU pay for and you don't take advantage of it then you don't know what a good choice is. Do you ever stop to think not everyone that uses an option that is there for them is a lazy bum. Who are you to question my integrity. And learn to read I never said Obama did anything to cause me to make more money. I simply said I'm making more now than I ever did. And because I can own coonhounds don't mean I can pay a 20k hospital bill. And " we the people"..I'm one of those people. If your not smart enough to accept help if you need help then that's your fault.

[QUOTE]Orginally posted by conhtr1
HCAP....Hospital Care Assistance Program helped you? So you are one of the "handout" crowd? lovely. If you can afford to own and feed coonhounds, "We the people" should not have to help you with any hospital
What did obama do that helped you make more money than you ever have? [/QUOTE

Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-19-2012 05:19 AM:

Wow man you got me there...Lmao. his mom and dad divorced when he was 2. His dad moved back to Kenya. Obama stayed with his mom. I said his mom raised him I didn't say he had no relationship with his dad. What's a pic of him and his dad prove? I have a bunch of pics of me and my pops. Maybe I'm missing the point of the picture. All I ee in the pic is a black man in a suit with his son. What am I missing here?

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Originally posted by bob country jr
Mat this dont look like his mom to me if it is she is one ugly women yet you say he was raised by her looks like dad must of stopped in for a little somthing,something and took a picture.lol.

Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-19-2012 05:25 AM:

Well boys its been fun shooting all your rediculous bs out of the water but I'm going to bed. I have to get up and GO TO WORK in the morning.

Posted by EFranks on 09-19-2012 05:34 AM:

Re: Re: Obamas America

quote:
Originally posted by Knox
?.........I don't believe you you witnessed this, what did you do, see this guy park his car, you followed him thru the store, watch him fill these 2 carts, in line with him to hear the conversation between him and the cashier, wait for him to take the dog food back and return with the steaks, what were you doing Stalking him ........LOL...??............I think this is all a Lie, could it be ?.........No, surely not....

I actually witnessed this happen.... I overheard the cashier complaining to the store mgr about it.... If you wanna see it for yourself, go to the nearest grocery store around the first of the month..... Guaranteed to see something similar

Posted by Rip on 09-19-2012 05:34 AM:

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Originally posted by Matt McKinney
Well boys its been fun shooting all your rediculous bs out of the water but I'm going to bed. I have to get up and GO TO WORK in the morning.

I didn't see you shoot anything out of the water.

Tell me how the healthcare act helped you. I would like to know this. I happen to know alot about the healthcare law so I am interested to know exactly how this worked and how it saved you money etc.

I know more about this bill than 99% of the american public and am just interested in how it helped someone that pays 1000 dollars a week in taxes. (Remember that would mean the amount you pay that you don't get back, in other words you would pay 52,000 per year in taxes and get no refund in order to pay 1000 per week in taxes).

The dirty little secrets about the bill are that there is a huge tax on private healthcare plans that they consider "cadillac" plans. There is also a mandate that all doctors must send the gubment your private healthcare information so they can see it and have it on file. The taxes to pay for this plan are not slated to go into effect for a few more years now. Also there is the beuracratic board that will decide what care you can have and what you can't, notice it's not a medical board, it's a board of beuracrats that are not elected and have no accountability. I also know your "free" screenings really aren't free. For example if they remove a polyp during your colonoscopy then that changes it from a screening to a theraputic colonoscopy and you are hit with it. Just a little bait and switch from the administration.

So I know many of downsides to this bill and I am curious about how it actually worked out good for someone.

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Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-19-2012 05:42 AM:

I was talking about all the Muslim American hating bs that people have been talking about since 3 pm yesterday but either can't or refuse to provide proof to back thier bs claims up. I never said the healthcare benefited me at all. Honestly I don't know much about it. I pay for insurance through my job and pay almost 300 every 2 week. As far as my taxes go it meant to say 1000 every 2 weeks. And I only usualy get back about 3k for my tax return. So yeah I pay taxes bud. I haven't disputed anything you have said. You actually make sense when you post something rather than just random crap you read in a forward email.

QUOTE]Originally posted by Rip
I didn't see you shoot anything out of the water.

Tell me how the healthcare act helped you. I would like to know this. I happen to know alot about the healthcare law so I am interested to know exactly how this worked and how it saved you money etc.

I know more about this bill than 99% of the american public and am just interested in how it helped someone that pays 1000 dollars a week in taxes. (Remember that would mean the amount you pay that you don't get back, in other words you would pay 52,000 per year in taxes and get no refund in order to pay 1000 per week in taxes).

The dirty little secrets about the bill are that there is a huge tax on private healthcare plans that they consider "cadillac" plans. There is also a mandate that all doctors must send the gubment your private healthcare information so they can see it and have it on file. The taxes to pay for this plan are not slated to go into effect for a few more years now. Also there is the beuracratic board that will decide what care you can have and what you can't, notice it's not a medical board, it's a board of beuracrats that are not elected and have no accountability. I also know your "free" screenings really aren't free. For example if they remove a polyp during your colonoscopy then that changes it from a screening to a theraputic colonoscopy and you are hit with it. Just a little bait and switch from the administration.

So I know many of downsides to this bill and I am curious about how it actually worked out good for someone. [/QUOTE]

Posted by Rip on 09-19-2012 05:53 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt McKinney
I was talking about all the Muslim American hating bs that people have been talking about since 3 pm yesterday but either can't or refuse to provide proof to back thier bs claims up. I never said the healthcare benefited me at all. Honestly I don't know much about it. I pay for insurance through my job and pay almost 300 every 2 week. As far as my taxes go it meant to say 1000 every 2 weeks. And I only usualy get back about 3k for my tax return. So yeah I pay taxes bud. I haven't disputed anything you have said. You actually make sense when you post something rather than just random crap you read in a forward email.

Sorry, I misunderstood you and thought you were saying the healthcare bill helped you. I honestly was curious how it helped someone. I have seen the downsides on real live people that I know, but I haven't found anyone I know that it has actually helped. I was honestly curious to know so I would know at least one person it helped.

Yeah you are right about that crap sent in emails.

As for me his religion has nothing to do with whether I would vote for him or not. It's pure and simple his Socialism and his anti gun stance and voting record. All that stuff is fact though and is very easy to prove. Just look up his record and you will see he is an admitted socialist and an admitted enemy of the second ammendment.

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Posted by shakethevine on 09-19-2012 10:30 AM:

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Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
Pravo pravo! He printed billions of dollars to bail them out! WHAT ABOUT solendra Eric?

That's Bravo.......

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Posted by shakethevine on 09-19-2012 10:39 AM:

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Originally posted by EFranks
No that's union jobs..... Mafia ..... Whatever you wanna call it

What about the grocery stores near the plants, or the 1000 little mom and pop places that make a certain part, or the gas station just out side the plant, 1000's of car dealerships and their employees etc. etc. I could go on for days on who is supported by the auto industry.......

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Posted by Knox on 09-19-2012 11:49 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Obamas America

quote:
Originally posted by EFranks
I actually witnessed this happen.... I overheard the cashier complaining to the store mgr about it.... If you wanna see it for yourself, go to the nearest grocery store around the first of the month..... Guaranteed to see something similar

?..........If you did witness this, I apologize for calling you a liar, it just seemed a little out there........Tim

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Posted by Knox on 09-19-2012 12:01 PM:

Doesn't matter....

quote:
Originally posted by EFranks
No that's union jobs..... Mafia ..... Whatever you wanna call it

..........They are still American jobs, that feed American families, that spend their money thru out their communities ,.....jobs that wouldn't be there if it was left to Mitt.

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Posted by conhtr1 on 09-19-2012 01:00 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt McKinney
Excuse me? I have never been on unemployment , welfare, or paid with anything with a foodstamp. I used a program that was available to me and that my tax dollars goes to as well. I pay dang near 1000 a week in taxes. Do you pay that much? I work 50+ hours a week and bust my butt so my wife can stay home and raise our kids. If you had a 20k hospital bill and you were eligle for a program that YOU pay for and you don't take advantage of it then you don't know what a good choice is. Do you ever stop to think not everyone that uses an option that is there for them is a lazy bum. Who are you to question my integrity. And learn to read I never said Obama did anything to cause me to make more money. I simply said I'm making more now than I ever did. And because I can own coonhounds don't mean I can pay a 20k hospital bill. And " we the people"..I'm one of those people. If your not smart enough to accept help if you need help then that's your fault.

[QUOTE]Orginally posted by conhtr1
HCAP....Hospital Care Assistance Program helped you? So you are one of the "handout" crowd? lovely. If you can afford to own and feed coonhounds, "We the people" should not have to help you with any hospital
What did obama do that helped you make more money than you ever have? [/QUOTE

So you pay 'dang near $1000 a week? dang near $52,000 a year in taxes? If you're making enough to have to pay $52,000 a year, then you should not "need help" paying a hospital bill. You USED the system just like you said.
Why not let us keep some of that tax money so we don't feel the 'need' to "use the system" . Go ahead and vote again for obama and volunteer to keep paying more for 'the system'. He doesn't mind you getting a little of the system as long as he can keep giving the rest of 'your money' to the rest of the 'system users'.

Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-19-2012 01:19 PM:

You must only read half of a thread. I corrected myself and said I meant to say 1000 every 2 weeks. And I didn't use the system. I used a program that I help pay for with my tax money. Like I said if your too stupid to see that then I don't know what to tell you. And im not buying for one second that you wouldn't use the program if you were looking at a hospital bill that was as much as a new car. I call bs on that.

quote:
Originally posted by conhtr1
So you pay 'dang near $1000 a week? dang near $52,000 a year in taxes? If you're making enough to have to pay $52,000 a year, then you should not "need help" paying a hospital bill. You USED the system just like you said.
Why not let us keep some of that tax money so we don't feel the 'need' to "use the system" . Go ahead and vote again for obama and volunteer to keep paying more for 'the system'. He doesn't mind you getting a little of the system as long as he can keep giving the rest of 'your money' to the rest of the 'system users'.

Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-19-2012 01:28 PM:

I agree with you on the 2nd admendment. I'm really not on Obama fan. I do think he has good some good and I do think he has done some things poorly. I honestly don't even think I'm going to vote because I don't think either man deserves the job. Really the only reason I got involved in this thread is because of the rediculous claims that he is this and that and I wanted to see if these people posting these fear tactic crap could post evidence to back up there arguement. LOL I should of known they couldn't.

quote:
Originally posted by Rip
Sorry, I misunderstood you and thought you were saying the healthcare bill helped you. I honestly was curious how it helped someone. I have seen the downsides on real live people that I know, but I haven't found anyone I know that it has actually helped. I was honestly curious to know so I would know at least one person it helped.

Yeah you are right about that crap sent in emails.

As for me his religion has nothing to do with whether I would vote for him or not. It's pure and simple his Socialism and his anti gun stance and voting record. All that stuff is fact though and is very easy to prove. Just look up his record and you will see he is an admitted socialist and an admitted enemy of the second ammendment.

Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 09-19-2012 01:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt McKinney
I agree with you on the 2nd admendment. I'm really not on Obama fan. I do think he has good some good and I do think he has done some things poorly. I honestly don't even think I'm going to vote because I don't think either man deserves the job. Really the only reason I got involved in this thread is because of the rediculous claims that he is this and that and I wanted to see if these people posting these fear tactic crap could post evidence to back up there arguement. LOL I should of known they couldn't.

Matt I assure you this video proves what a liar he really is. These aren't forwarded emails. Lies from

http://obamalies.net/

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Posted by Diggerman on 09-19-2012 01:45 PM:

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Originally posted by shakethevine
Working People?...........AUTO INDUSTRY!

Millions of auto/auto related jobs saved......

The auto industy saved its self.Did he make people buy cars?He refunded GMs union retirement. How fair was it to Ford moter company and its workers?GM would have just filed bancruptcy one more time and the unions would have had to play hardball.There would still have been a GM but the union would have had to explain where all the pension money went.

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 09-19-2012 02:12 PM:

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Originally posted by Diggerman
The auto industy saved its self.Did he make people buy cars?He refunded GMs union retirement. How fair was it to Ford moter company and its workers?GM would have just filed bancruptcy one more time and the unions would have had to play hardball.There would still have been a GM but the union would have had to explain where all the pension money went.

Gosh darnit diggerman! Don't bust Erics bubble on the one thing obama has done for this country!

Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-19-2012 02:25 PM:

Is that site even legit? Whos is endorsed by? I can go find the same sites about romney George w and Clinton. But I'm not saying the man hasnt lied. I'm not saying I like him , voted for him or gonna vote for him. My arguement this whole time is he is not a terrorist loving Muslim that is out to get you and your family. That's all I ever argued.
He is just a man. He has done some things that work and somethings that haven't. Just like all the other presidents before him.

UOTE]Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
Matt I assure you this video proves what a liar he really is. These aren't forwarded emails. Lies from

http://obamalies.net/ [/QUOTE]

Posted by Sparky on 09-19-2012 02:46 PM:

My whole family drives fords for the simple fact they didn't take any bailout money. If you want to sleep all day, hunt all night, get free groceries and have your kids eat for free at school, I'd vote for Obama too.

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 09-19-2012 03:13 PM:

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Originally posted by Matt McKinney
Is that site even legit? Whos is endorsed by? I can go find the same sites about romney George w and Clinton. But I'm not saying the man hasnt lied. I'm not saying I like him , voted for him or gonna vote for him. My arguement this whole time is he is not a terrorist loving Muslim that is out to get you and your family. That's all I ever argued.
He is just a man. He has done some things that work and somethings that haven't. Just like all the other presidents before him.

UOTE]Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
Matt I assure you this video proves what a liar he really is. These aren't forwarded emails. Lies from

http://obamalies.net/

[/QUOTE]

When you have a few free minutes later watch it and give me your oppiniom on it.

Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-19-2012 03:57 PM:

I will have to watch it later, my work computer wont let me view it.

quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1

When you have a few free minutes later watch it and give me your oppiniom on it. [/B][/QUOTE]

Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-19-2012 04:12 PM:

This is just to show you that both parties are making sites like that, it isnt hard to find them. I mean you hate Obama , whats to stop you from making a webpage about it, and posting everything you think is a lie or everything you hate about obama? Just because its on the internet doesnt mean its reliable or true. I havent watched anything on the site I just posted, but there are sites out there from both sides calling the other side liars.

http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/

Posted by dbprofitt56 on 09-19-2012 04:27 PM:

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Originally posted by vernonsdream
Hey hoosierman you realize there have been many terrorist attacks by Christians, right? What does that picture of Obama and his dad prove? You might want to leave politics to grown men and worry about shocking your dogs off a track. (lol)

Name em, and don`t add Timothy McVey!

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Posted by chuck west on 09-19-2012 04:30 PM:

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Originally posted by Hoosier Man1

When you have a few free minutes later watch it and give me your oppiniom on it. [/B][/QUOTE] Hoosier it will take days ,if not a couple of weeks to watch and read all the stuff on that site ,,sorry not for me see ya later .

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