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Posted by R and D Kennels on 10-16-2012 02:54 PM:

Cody

Go talk to Jason Johnston or Paul Hennigan in WACO TEXAS they run greyhounds 365 days a year . Tell them I sent you to get the information keeping dogs cool in hot weather . Oh and BTW I have been fooling with dogs my entire 42 years. If those two guys wont help you, look up Kenneth Beihle or Kenny Turner. Waco has a lot of greyhound farms, I'm surprised in your 30 years you never knew what and how they fed.

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Atten r&d kennels... I'll give you a break since u live in Ohio. You obviously have never hunted your dogs (I'd day any dogs) in 100 plus degrees at night. I ve been hunting for 30 years and I know what I've seen with my own two eyes. I've had dogs that were grn note champs that had NO reverse in them flat out over heat in that type of weather. Quit, you might say, Treeing after about 10 - 15 mins on the tree. Breathing so hard (heaving) they could catch there breath. The only thing they want was water, period. At that time I was feeding black gold (black bag) and stopped feeding it. Went down to a lower protein lower fat content and never had that problem again. Seen this happen many times since too. I'm not a nutritionist I'm a realist. Realistically over heating can and will happen in dogs in that heat eating high protein whatever the brand.

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Posted by cody jaster on 10-16-2012 03:02 PM:

Running on a track for 5 min. Is not anything like hunting out in the woods (in the Woods) with no open breeze or air. A track is open. One hour of running then barking until you get there is nothing like a track. Comparing apples to oranges here. Not the same. But thanks for your comment anyway.

Posted by R and D Kennels on 10-16-2012 03:04 PM:

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Originally posted by cody jaster
Running on a track for 5 min. Is not anything like hunting out in the woods (in the Woods) with no open breeze or air. A track is open. One hour of running then barking until you get there is nothing like a track. Comparing apples to oranges here. Not the same. But thanks for your comment anyway.

What about the coyote hunters who use the same dogs and same feed patterns ?

Consuming carbohydrates and proteins also increases the speed at which dogs body burns calories. When they eat, their metabolism increases because they generate more body heat, a process known as thermogenesis. However, proteins and carbohydrates increase thermogenesis at different rates. It's not the protein that causes the excess body heat, if this was the case, the Inuits would have been gorging on dog food instead of fats for 1000's of years.

Posted by brandon4 on 10-16-2012 03:26 PM:

Diamond dogfood products are junk. Would rather feed my beagles grass!lol the man ppl who created diamond needs educated or hit n the mouth 4 hurting ppls dogs!jmo

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Posted by JiM on 10-16-2012 03:39 PM:

Back to this new Purina Active feed.......
You can't find anything about it on any Purina site other than Active Senior. Close as I can tell, it must be one of those special WalMart formulations. You know, like the WalMart model 10/22"s and their inhouse model Remington 870's....cheap'ined up even from the regular factories lowest base models. I'm not a fan of any of WalMarts inhouse models of anything.
Am I missimg something about this new Active feed? Can you get it ANYWHERE other than WalMart?

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Posted by Slowpoke 2012 on 10-16-2012 03:45 PM:

Purina Dog Chow. And they support hunters and compitions a lot.

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 10-16-2012 05:49 PM:

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Originally posted by JiM
Back to this new Purina Active feed.......
You can't find anything about it on any Purina site other than Active Senior. Close as I can tell, it must be one of those special WalMart formulations. You know, like the WalMart model 10/22"s and their inhouse model Remington 870's....cheap'ined up even from the regular factories lowest base models. I'm not a fan of any of WalMarts inhouse models of anything.
Am I missimg something about this new Active feed? Can you get it ANYWHERE other than WalMart?

Im not sure jim. I have fed high standard, pride green and brown bag. Diamone naturals lamb and rice and extreme athlete and I'm far more satisfied with this active dog feed. My dogs love it also. At first they crapped alot after a few weeks it has went way down. They look great and have pleanty of energy.

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Posted by RHK on 10-16-2012 11:26 PM:

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Originally posted by Jackson87
I must be feedin a differant kind of Diamond?My dogs look better,hunt harder,dont overheat and have solid stools....Diamond Naturals is the Best feed ive tried.

im still feeding naturals and i like it. my pup had a bald spot start on his hip at one point and i just cut him back some. my old beagles look better on it also. never had a problem with my dogs craping all over the place like everyone says either. ill feed it until i have a reason not to.

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Posted by gottabered on 10-16-2012 11:35 PM:

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Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
I bought a few bags of that myself and can tell you this. My dogs got so hot on it they wouldnt even barely tree. Got burnt up so bad they about got a heat stroke everytime I hunted them.

i had same problem my buddy feeds southern states complete we went out 1 night in july and his dogs handled the heat much better than mine did on the ea i want to feed my dogs what is best for them but the feed that is suppose to be good for them seems to affect their performance any suggestions?

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Posted by kardinalkennels on 10-17-2012 04:12 AM:

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Originally posted by Cynthia
Ive been on purina one and will have to start finding something else - diamond not an option.

bags are now 31.1# and 16.5#, prices the same.
sams has lamb/rice 44# for $35 and dog chow 50# for $25. did see some dog chow 32# bags as well.

Cynthia, I like to think I hunt my dogs pretty hard, and most of the time I do. I feed Dog Chow thru the summer in the off season, and when trainning season "bear" and from that time thur the rest of the yr I feed Purina ONe and Dog Chow mixed.

This yr when trainning season started I did what I always did, started mixing the two, I noticed my after starting them on the mixture the dogs getting hotter and consuming more water. I think something must have changed over the last yr. I have since to Pro Plan and Dog Chow mixed. They got hoter less and I am now as well taking the One out of the equation. In the past I have also mixed Dog Chow and high end Pride dog food they did well.

I have always had good luck on the 26/18 pride and Dog Chow mixture. I will always feed some sort of Purina or some form of Pride or a mixture.

I think alot of the hot spot problems, which I have had this summer as well, only on one dog and she was fed Dog Chow, the worst the flea season is the more hot spots we see, regardless of feed. I do see the same thing out of ONE as you are thou.

One thing I do and I know everyone can't do is when I buy feed, I buy the whole skid a ton at a time hoping that that skid came from the same batch and it will last a good while. I didn't do this with the one, only bought 2 bags and like I said see the same thing you are describing.

Good luck with your feed problem and keep the dogs tuned in and true and blue. Love the looks of your dogs and there peds

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Posted by jboord on 10-18-2012 05:10 AM:

bought a bag tonight to try i usally feed regular dog chow

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Posted by Bobby Reynolds on 10-18-2012 12:59 PM:

Now I am not knocking anyone that has replied on this thread but, I am willing to bet that most who have replied on this thread don't hunt hard enough to evaluate any kind of feed. I have tried everything I could ever get my hands on trying to find the best feed I could find. I believe this, most feeds out there will keep the average dog in decent shape. There are a few out there I will never feed again. Corn will make a dog heat up however it is not a problem with most dogs. I have had some dogs that I would not feed dogfood with corn in it because they would heat up anyway and the corn would make it worst. As far as protein is concerned, it can not be to high for me but you must hunt the dog hard enough to use the protien. I love a high fat feed also. I hunt as hard as anyone I know when I am hunting. I have had a dog go down on one feed and switched him to another and kept hunting him everynight and watched him start gaining weight and building muscle in just a few days. Some of the feeds you guys are saying are so great I can't keep my hounds going on the way I hunt. I guess if your feed keeps your dog in good shape at your pace of hunting that is all that matters. If you want to know how good the feed is your feeding, hunt your dog 30 nights staight 4 to 8 hours a night and I will promiss you alot of opinions will change on the dog food debate. JMO

Posted by collarguy on 10-18-2012 01:19 PM:

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I'm on my 4th pallet and like it.

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Posted by Mizzou on 10-18-2012 07:06 PM:

Re: victor

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Originally posted by prostockpat
is simply the best!!
if u don't try it,its because of habit and/or your afraid to change.
too many recalls with "other co."
tried victor,won't go back.feed less, get more.
feeding a 63 lb female walker 25oz. a day.still put on weight.could be cut back more.
shine like a new dime,less stool,more energy.
40 lb bag ,feed less{no filler;corn/or soy}.works out the same as 50lb. of others.

tried a couple of bags, feed is ok but way to expensive for what is in the bag. did a little research on this product, it is manufactured in texas. anybody in the midwest is probably paying $4 per bag shipping cost, in this day and age a guy like myself needs to find a good feed that is manufactured locally to keep from paying these huge costs for shipping---jmo

there is plenty of good dog foods out there, no need to pay the extra costs.

Posted by RatDog on 10-18-2012 09:56 PM:

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Originally posted by Bobby Reynolds
Now I am not knocking anyone that has replied on this thread but, I am willing to bet that most who have replied on this thread don't hunt hard enough to evaluate any kind of feed. I have tried everything I could ever get my hands on trying to find the best feed I could find. I believe this, most feeds out there will keep the average dog in decent shape. There are a few out there I will never feed again. Corn will make a dog heat up however it is not a problem with most dogs. I have had some dogs that I would not feed dogfood with corn in it because they would heat up anyway and the corn would make it worst. As far as protein is concerned, it can not be to high for me but you must hunt the dog hard enough to use the protien. I love a high fat feed also. I hunt as hard as anyone I know when I am hunting. I have had a dog go down on one feed and switched him to another and kept hunting him everynight and watched him start gaining weight and building muscle in just a few days. Some of the feeds you guys are saying are so great I can't keep my hounds going on the way I hunt. I guess if your feed keeps your dog in good shape at your pace of hunting that is all that matters. If you want to know how good the feed is your feeding, hunt your dog 30 nights staight 4 to 8 hours a night and I will promiss you alot of opinions will change on the dog food debate. JMO

So what feed do you feed?

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Posted by MUSKY on 10-18-2012 10:01 PM:

What is the actual label name on this new purina feed?

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Posted by dumbdog1988 on 10-18-2012 10:51 PM:

Been reading some on the diamond and what people have been saying on this thread. There is a BIG difference between the reg diamond and the diamond naturals. The naturals is what you want to feed, its good solid dog food for the price and my dogs do great on it. During huinting season ill put my coondog on better feed like tast of the wild but other than that i recommend diamond naturals all the way not the reg diamond tho that stuff is junk.

Posted by Bobby Reynolds on 10-18-2012 10:53 PM:

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Originally posted by RatDog
So what feed do you feed?

Diamond EA

Only diamond feed that I like. Don't really care for the other Diamond feeds. There are some good dogfoods out there but this stuff will keep them full of energy and builds muscle.

Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 10-18-2012 10:56 PM:

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Originally posted by MUSKY
What is the actual label name on this new purina feed?

Purina Active life.

Posted by countryboys on 10-19-2012 01:27 AM:

I hunt nearly 4-6 nights a week every week. Hunt from sundown till about 2-3 am. Purina dog chow has always worked for the past 3 yrs. Never a heat problem. Ive noticed with this new purina feed that I dont have to feedas much.

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Posted by Mr. Bobby B on 10-19-2012 01:42 AM:

dog food

Southren States has A new for dogs call Lamb and rice no corn. Is by far the best food I have ever fed. Give one bag a try and you will be sold'

Posted by collarguy on 10-19-2012 01:47 PM:

I've been down the diamond naturals / no corn road for over a year. I had a hard time keeping weight on with no corn diets. Hounds are atheletes and need the carbs from corn. I've had the best luck with feeds with corn as the third ingredient.

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