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Posted by D.W. Fletcher on 02-03-2006 08:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Voyd Cannon
David, I thought Stylish Harry was from a mating from your dogs. Was he?


Yes, he would out of my old Anna female, and the Hayes dog that I use to own.

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Posted by Voyd Cannon on 02-03-2006 08:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by D.W. Fletcher
Yes, he would out of my old Anna female, and the Hayes dog that I use to own.


Wasn't those dogs mostly House or hersheberger bred and old johnson banjo back through banjo style of paul greggs.


Posted by D.W. Fletcher on 02-03-2006 08:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Voyd Cannon
Wasn't those dogs mostly House or hersheberger bred and old johnson banjo back through banjo style of paul greggs.


You are correct Voyd. However they did both go back to old Harry, and that is why Tim likes to claim responsibility in their breeding. There are many breeders that could claim the same thing. I like Tim, but he does like to get all the mileage he can out of something.

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Posted by Voyd Cannon on 02-03-2006 08:43 PM:

David, I don't know anything about walkers but I do know Tim, he has a way of looking at things that I don't usually see or really understand but he seems to see very clear but can't explain. I think we all know what makes Tim tick and I posted it earlier. thanks Voyd.


Posted by kscooner on 02-03-2006 09:05 PM:

I wan't to say first that Tim Ball has probably forgot more about walkers then I will ever know.


I can't stand a braggard,and yes even if you can back it up,your still braggin.


Out of all those fantstic crosses he has made and all those hard hunters that are hunting his dogs,How many breeder's of the year has he won?How many of those litters of $1000 puppies are in the rnning for litter of the year?

Now guys these are some hard hunting guys that can afford to put these dogs on the road that are buying these pups.

How many of those $1000 puppies come with a money-back guarantee?

That's fine I have never won anything either,buuuuuut I don't say that I am raising can't miss,fantastic,worlds best coon dogs.

Timothy Ball may be the nicest guy in the world,I don't know.

I really wish that he would change his advertisement,I can not bring myself to try one of his dogs because of the way that he conducts business.

Timothy Ball"s ads make him look like a obnoxious,egotistical,and what's worse ,ignorant jerk.

His adds irritate me so bad that I tear them out so I can read the rest of the magazine with out getting mad.

I look at it like this;I know dogs aren't perfect.Timothy Ball knows dogs are not perfect aswell and everytime he tells me that his dogs are perfect and with every new "best of all time dog" he is telling me that he thinks everyone of us that are reading his ads are stupid.Timothy Ball thinks that he can feed us all that Horsecrap and we will just eat it.

Everyone of us knows someone that can not see the bad in their hounds or the good in someonelse's,but that man doesn't run ads every week.

About once a month this subject comes up and it's always the same.I thing Mr.Ball is probably laughing all the way to the bank.

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Posted by Voyd Cannon on 02-03-2006 09:16 PM:

Mick, I wished you'd just went ahead and said what you thought on the subject, but you did do a good job on the high points that you touched on. thanks


Posted by Daniel spurlock on 02-03-2006 09:27 PM:

Re: KEEP BUILDING T.BALL

quote:
Originally posted by Daniel spurlock
Okay, its time to settle this bullshi@@ once and for all. Drivesaft,Cannon, and to the rest of the disfunctual coonhunters, You people are just plain stupid!!!! The ALL GRAND deal in coon hunting is a way of professioning the sport, and to the people in the world that like to be professionale about what they do want the best on paper and the best in performance, they want the hole package. The way to do this has to start somewhere and with somebody, well the time is now and the somebody is T>BALL he has made the coonhunting sport a profession, like NFL, NBA, MLB, T.BALL is like the founder of the profession. You think all the main professions was just made no they have a foundation and then we build on it as coonhunters. In this day in time people want hunters to quit hunting and the way we fight this is by becoming an organization, and being professional about the way we do it. It is the same was with horses, cows ect. We all know a dog can be great and not be out of much, but look what you have if it is great and out of somthing ALL GRAND. You have a great stud dog you can make money off of.Its the same way in diifrent countrys with humans, some people cant get married unless there in royalty, It goes back to your blood and your families. So all I can say is yes T.BALL is doing a great thing and has acc. more than any of us ever will and you guys are a descrase to coonhunting for taking that from him.


T.BALL keep doing what you are doing and build are profession for the next generation.


Posted by chopper5 on 02-03-2006 10:12 PM:

I THINK HE IS TALKING UP HIS DOGS SO MUCH THAT SOME FOLKS JUST HAVE TO TRY THEM AND SEE. I CANT FAULT THE MAN FOR BEING A GOOD PROMOTER OF HIS DOGS BECAUSE HE IS THAT,LOL.IF YOU KEEP HEARING HOW GOOD SOMETHING IS,AND HOW GOOD IT HAS MADE EVERY OTHER LINE OF DOGS AND NOBODY LIVES CLOSE TO YOU THAT HAS HAD ONE,I CAN SEE WHERE IT WOULD BE VERY TEMPTING FOR SOME ONE TO TRY ONE OF THOSE HIGHPRICED PUPPIES.I ALSO THINK THAT IT WOULD BE EVEN MORE ENTICING TO SOMEONE THAT HAS HAD ALOT OF BAD LUCK WITH "GOOD OL' BOYS" DOGS THAT NEVER PANNED OUT. THIS IS JUST MY 2 CENTS.


Posted by elvis on 02-03-2006 10:44 PM:

tim ball is the reason i had to throw all my training strategies out the window and start over.lol
before old harry i had to coax my pups to tree.
after old harry i had to beat them to stop.

lipper made me go back to plan A lol


Posted by Skinner on 02-03-2006 11:02 PM:

I posted something one time on Boone. Someone replied yeah ole Tim Ball breeding at its best. I just wonder where Tim Ball was while all of these dogs were being raised, trained and hunted?

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Posted by John Carroll on 02-03-2006 11:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by elvis
tim ball is the reason i had to throw all my training strategies out the window and start over.lol
before old harry i had to coax my pups to tree.
after old harry i had to beat them to stop.

lipper made me go back to plan A lol



With Sackett Jr. and Nailor and Rat Attack, did you have to go back to beating them again?

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Posted by Voyd Cannon on 02-03-2006 11:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by John Carroll
With Sackett Jr. and Nailor and Rat Attack, did you have to go back to beating them again?


John, most dogs that can't run a track seem to tree more than they need to, I sold the Yakin River Meat Dog to Delton Hall and he had this problem, no track and all tree.


Posted by Hiphop on 02-03-2006 11:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by John Carroll
With Sackett Jr. and Nailor and Rat Attack, did you have to go back to beating them again?



Maybe worse.


Posted by JIMHILL on 02-04-2006 12:38 AM:

ive got a dog here that is nailor top and sackett jr bottom i can count one one hand how many times he pulled up slick havent had a problem with mine but mybe i got lucky

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Posted by T.Beyer on 02-04-2006 12:45 AM:

Re: KEEP BUILDING T.BALL

quote:
Originally posted by Daniel spurlock
The ALL GRAND deal in coon hunting is a way of professioning the sport, and to the people in the world that like to be professionale about what they do want the best on paper and the best in performance, they want the hole package.


Good thing he doesn't have you writing those long winded, overblow ads.


Professionalizing the sport.


Thanks for your 2 posts uhh I mean redundant post...

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Posted by Voyd Cannon on 02-04-2006 12:49 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by JIMHILL
ive got a dog here that is nailor top and sackett jr bottom i can count one one hand how many times he pulled up slick havent had a problem with mine but mybe i got lucky



Jim, you should run outside and hug your dogs neck, then say a prayer of thanks because I think you've been blessed.


Posted by JIMHILL on 02-04-2006 02:39 AM:

voyd ya i know he is the best dog i have ever owned in all these years the only thing he had wrong for a while is he had a big ear prob but i think i fixed that here a while back oh and he ran a grinner into a log and i know i fixed that problem

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Posted by banjo on 02-04-2006 05:33 AM:

David Fletcher and I went with T Ball to a world hunt in Illinois back in 1990.David was handling Wildman Willie for Timothy.

He has taken his dogs to big hunts in the past.

He should have hunted Stylish Harry in every BIG HUNT.
Stylish Harry was so **** good is was unreal.

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Posted by charley noble on 02-04-2006 02:54 PM:

Iv'e known Timmy for a lot of years, drawn and or hunted with a lot of dogs he owned including the "Imortal" Harry. They were all just nice dogs. Nothing special, just nice. Tim does now and always has thought that he has the best dogs in the world. don't get me wrong, I think Tim is a good man but I sure wouldnt buy a dog from him.

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Posted by no show on 02-08-2006 03:53 PM:

FOR ALL YA'LL

WHO DONT AGREE WITH TIM BALL............DONT CALL, HAVE YO MAMMA CALL. LOL

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Posted by Tig2grrr on 06-11-2007 07:13 PM:

YAW YAW YAW ---- WHO EVER SAID THEY WOULD NOT COME TO OKLAHOMA TO BUY A DOG..THANK YOU LEAVE OUR DOGS THAT TREE COON IN THIN COON HERE AND QUIT TAKING THEM NORTH AND MAKING THEM LOOK LIKE SUPER STARS WITH A COON IN EVERY THIRD TREE...


Posted by DERICK ANDERSON on 06-11-2007 09:42 PM:

Re: Re: gotta have a strong chin

quote:
Originally posted by Russell Boyette
Looks like they would be putting him in some big hunts, if he's that good. If i had one as good as what they say he is, i would be trying to win the world with him.

He made GRNTCH, so he may be retired now. Has Freak Show won any pro-hunts?

GO TO AGREE , WHERE THEY AT ?????????? WINNING THEM BIG TITLES AT EIGHT DOG HUNTS ????????? DERICK


Posted by Levi Yoder on 06-11-2007 09:56 PM:

TIM BALL

Rudolf Kenedy and ole Tim started in the dog trading business at the same time went to U.S Liars College at Crab Orchard Kentucky both did well and then went into dog trading about the same time. Ole Rudolf stayed in Kentucky and made small amounts of money on his dog dealings while ole Time went out west and continued using his eduaction becoming a lawyer and doing big deal dog trades. Rudolf is as wealthy as Tim and remained a liar on a small deal basis even though he continued to do so for 60 years or more.

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Posted by Dan Dogs on 06-11-2007 09:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by elvis
tim ball is the reason i had to throw all my training strategies out the window and start over.lol
before old harry i had to coax my pups to tree.
after old harry i had to beat them to stop.

lipper made me go back to plan A lol

elvis you have to blend it!!! son of harry to a daughter of lipper....thats plan C for coondog!!

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Posted by hardtime hunter on 06-11-2007 10:51 PM:

Re: TIM BALL

quote:
Originally posted by Levi Yoder
Rudolf Kenedy and ole Tim started in the dog trading business at the same time went to U.S Liars College at Crab Orchard Kentucky both did well and then went into dog trading about the same time. Ole Rudolf stayed in Kentucky and made small amounts of money on his dog dealings while ole Time went out west and continued using his eduaction becoming a lawyer and doing big deal dog trades. Rudolf is as wealthy as Tim and remained a liar on a small deal basis even though he continued to do so for 60 years or more.




levi, i havn't even though of Rudolf kenedy in a million yrs, is he still alive???????????

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