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D WILLS

I HAVE A COMA DOG THAT WILL HALF TRACK ANY HOUND THAT POUNDS THE GROUND TOO MUCH AND SHE IS A DRIFTING TRACK DOG ON A COLD TRACK ON A HOT TRACK SHE RUNS TO CATCH SHE IS A 1 BARK TREE DOG ON EITHER TRACK THAT IS NO BULL IT DOES NOT TAKE HER LONG TO GET ONE TREED COMA IS HER DADDY SACKET FEMALE WAS HER MOTHER STYLISH COMA IS HER DAD JERRY HALL IN KY OWNED HIM HE DIED 2 YRS AGO HE 14 YRS OLD SHE WAS THE LAST LITTER OUT HIM SHE HAS NOT BEEN COMP HUNTED TOO MUCH HER 1 HUNT I EVER PUT HER IN SHE WON 1 PLACE 650 PLUS NO MINUS I WORK A LOT SAT NOT THIS YEAR I PLAN ON FINISH HER OUT SHE IS A GOOD HARD TREE DOG THAT STAYS PUT RIGHT OR WRONG SHE WILL MISS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE NO DOG IS PERFECT SMALL GYP 45 POUNDS GOOOD MOUTH HUNTS GOOD BY HERSELF QUIET IN THE KENNEL TOO

Re: D WILLS

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Originally posted by boxmanwillie
I HAVE A COMA DOG THAT WILL HALF TRACK ANY HOUND THAT POUNDS THE GROUND TOO MUCH AND SHE IS A DRIFTING TRACK DOG ON A COLD TRACK ON A HOT TRACK SHE RUNS TO CATCH SHE IS A 1 BARK TREE DOG ON EITHER TRACK THAT IS NO BULL IT DOES NOT TAKE HER LONG TO GET ONE TREED COMA IS HER DADDY SACKET FEMALE WAS HER MOTHER STYLISH COMA IS HER DAD JERRY HALL IN KY OWNED HIM HE DIED 2 YRS AGO HE 14 YRS OLD SHE WAS THE LAST LITTER OUT HIM SHE HAS NOT BEEN COMP HUNTED TOO MUCH HER 1 HUNT I EVER PUT HER IN SHE WON 1 PLACE 650 PLUS NO MINUS I WORK A LOT SAT NOT THIS YEAR I PLAN ON FINISH HER OUT SHE IS A GOOD HARD TREE DOG THAT STAYS PUT RIGHT OR WRONG SHE WILL MISS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE NO DOG IS PERFECT SMALL GYP 45 POUNDS GOOOD MOUTH HUNTS GOOD BY HERSELF QUIET IN THE KENNEL TOO

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I've not seen many around here that didn't do some GRUBBIN in the colder months, when coons aren't moving as much. I've heard and read about a lot of hounds that CAN FLAT MOVE EVERY COLD TRACK THEY COME ACCROSS, but I'm yet to see it, and doubt it's true. Some of them old rough, cold tracks just can't be moved with much speed. I don't like for a dog to stand on their head, or grubb often but some nights around here (Like a lot of other places with less coons), those tracks might be the only ones you get, and if you don't have a dog that can run them, you ain't gonna tree many coons.

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Yep same here some nights.If your dog cant run a cold track or tree a layup its will be a long wasted night.I ant never seen a ground pounder in action and im fine with that.

I understand what some of you are saying but you gotta factor In a few things ... Especially the guys that hunt the same type of territory I hunt . How often are these dogs opening on junk and switching to coon.the good ones are hard to catch at that... How many times are they striking a bad track and switching onto different and better tracks and having the coon ? ? Do you not think that happens?

I for one must have a dog that can run a track ... But don't like a trailing hound... I love a dog that's quick on getting treed... But don't like a tree monster and have to be looking at coons. I want a dog that can tree any kind of coon and will tree as many coon per acre as possible... basically to look for a track an if there's no track, looks for a coon sitting up.. There's in fact twice as many coon in most woods than what people and most dogs think; but ill never be able to get many people to agree with me on that

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Originally posted by Larry Atherton
Daniel and David,

I hunt quite a bit in winter when there is good tracking snow. More times than not my dogs are 10-15 yards down wind of coon tracks in the snow. The dog's tracks seldom ever break stride despite of the coon's meanderings. In addition to this information, how would one rationalize these same open track dogs repeatedly catching coon on the ground year around? It is because they run to catch.

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Originally posted by deschmidt27
I'm not disputing what you say or what you have witnessed in your dogs, but... I can also say that you can take a hot nose, babbling fool, and turn him loose in Northern Indiana and they'll catch coon on the ground. But, that doesn't mean they tracked them there!

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Dwills

do you realy think a dog will switch tracks?? if that is the case if a dog is trailing (or ground pounding ) as some people call it and there is so many coon in the woods the dog should be switching tracks untill he hits a hot one.

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BUCK BRUSH

THERE WAS 6 FEMALES NO MALES ALL THEM MADE PRETTY GOOD HOUNDS I HAD A HALF SISTER TO HER TRACK DOGS DELUX SHE WAS A GOOD SOLID COON DOG BIG MOUTH TREEEE DOG STAY PUT DOG LOST HER SHE TWISTED HER STOMACH SHE WAS VERY HIGH STRONG DOG GR NT I PUT THE LAST WIN ON HER A WHILE BACK THE GYP THAT I HAVE NOW REALLY LAYED BACK HOUND

I absolutely believe dogs switch tracks in certain situations . You bet I do . And another thing ... I never said tracking means ground pounding ... I simply said is more times than not people will label those dogs as cold nosed track dogs . Seen it happen and could easily name some dogs but won't .and wheni say ground pounding ,,, dogs that take abnormally long to get treed and stand one their heads , what may be obvious to you and me isn't so obvious to others...but If coon aren't moving at all and it's a frosty cold night I want a dog to stick with that track until the end . But if coon are somewhat moving an a dog with alot of nose strikes on a bad bad track and works a ways in the woods and there is a better track crossing over that bad track he's running you don't believe dogs switch off onto that better track? I'm just debating the topic here skip I'm not starting no bull here.

But there are many more coon than what people think out there

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D WILLS

ARE YOU A TRACK EXPERT OR WHAT ALL HOUNDS ARE DIFFERENT WOULDNT YOU AGREE ON THAT POINT OF THE SUBJECT A GOOD DEER DOG RUNS WITH ITS NOSE IN THE AIR DO YOU AGREE ON THAT A HOUND THAT CAN PUSH A JUNK TRACK USUALLY RUNS A COON TRACK THE SAME WAY BUT WITH A DIFFERENT TONE VICE WOULD YOU AGREE ON THAT

Nope not a expert that's for sure . Just got different opinions than others. This is just a discussion! Yet people find something to take offense to . Trust me I'm not meaning to offend anyone . Just going with the topic that's all

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Originally posted by boxmanwillie
THERE WAS 6 FEMALES NO MALES ALL THEM MADE PRETTY GOOD HOUNDS I HAD A HALF SISTER TO HER TRACK DOGS DELUX SHE WAS A GOOD SOLID COON DOG BIG MOUTH TREEEE DOG STAY PUT DOG LOST HER SHE TWISTED HER STOMACH SHE WAS VERY HIGH STRONG DOG GR NT I PUT THE LAST WIN ON HER A WHILE BACK THE GYP THAT I HAVE NOW REALLY LAYED BACK HOUND

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Daniel

i'm debating also and we both have a right to beleive what we do i have been at this a long long time, you are right about one thing there is a lot more coon in a woods then what people think/ will a dog switch tracks i do not know for sure you can asume about anything, how many times have you been staning there and see a coon laid up and your dog (or Mine ) runs a track over by that tree and they make a lose and cast all around by that tree and go on, know has this ever never happend to you ? if they was going to switch it seems like they would of there ,THAT is what i'm going by, now when we think they have run a track that started out cold and they start to warm it up (we think) OR did they change tracks?? to tell you the truth i do not know and i do not beleive any one does we can say what we want or think what we want, BUT do we realy know.

about ground pounding, when people say that word it just hits a nerve with me COME ON a dog has to trail a track to tree it, if one of my dogs open on a track i do not care how old that track is i better not see them untill they are on a tree some where sure i would like it to be over as fast as it can be , BUT you and i hunt the same area so you know as well as i do there are times when it will take them longer to tree unless they are just running through the woods looking for a hot track, and that type of dog does not stay long at my house ,for me they have to take there track as they come to them and run it as fast as the track alows as long as when i walk into that tree they have the meat.

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D WILLS

SAME HERE NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE ARE YOU GOING TO WALKER DAYS I WILL BE THERE SAT TO HUNT MY GYP DUE TO COME IN HEAT MY BUDDY HAS A NICE FEMALE THAT I WILL BE HUNTIN

Re: D WILLS

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Originally posted by boxmanwillie
I HAVE A COMA DOG THAT WILL HALF TRACK ANY HOUND THAT POUNDS THE GROUND TOO MUCH AND SHE IS A DRIFTING TRACK DOG ON A COLD TRACK ON A HOT TRACK SHE RUNS TO CATCH SHE IS A 1 BARK TREE DOG ON EITHER TRACK THAT IS NO BULL IT DOES NOT TAKE HER LONG TO GET ONE TREED COMA IS HER DADDY SACKET FEMALE WAS HER MOTHER STYLISH COMA IS HER DAD JERRY HALL IN KY OWNED HIM HE DIED 2 YRS AGO HE 14 YRS OLD SHE WAS THE LAST LITTER OUT HIM SHE HAS NOT BEEN COMP HUNTED TOO MUCH HER 1 HUNT I EVER PUT HER IN SHE WON 1 PLACE 650 PLUS NO MINUS I WORK A LOT SAT NOT THIS YEAR I PLAN ON FINISH HER OUT SHE IS A GOOD HARD TREE DOG THAT STAYS PUT RIGHT OR WRONG SHE WILL MISS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE NO DOG IS PERFECT SMALL GYP 45 POUNDS GOOOD MOUTH HUNTS GOOD BY HERSELF QUIET IN THE KENNEL TOO

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STYLISH FLAT ROCK COMA WAS HIS NAME SCHULTZ COMA WAS HIS DADDY I HUNTED THE COMA DOG THAT JERRY HALL OWNED AND HUNTED WITH SEVERAL OF HIS OFF SPRING NO MISTAKE ON MY PART

Boxmanwillie, the way I read what you wrote, looks like you said she was out of Stylish Coma,I am a Coma fan, and when I seen that, it don't jive with the facts about Stylish Coma.
Sounds like you have a nice female,who is a grandpup of the great Stylish Coma.......
And she wasn't out of the last litter out of Stylish Coma, she was out of Stylish Flatrock Coma.

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D WILLS

THE VET SIAD THAT SHE TWISTED HER STOMACH AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS THEY DO BLEED FROM THERE ASS SHE WAS NOT FEED THAT MORNING I WAS NOT HUNTIN HER SHE WAS IN HEAT IN FACT I WAS GOING TO TAKE HER TO THE VET TO GET CHECKED OUT I FEED A DOG EARLY IN THE MORNING BEFORE I HUNT IT

I had a feelin this post would go south soon.lol.I brought it back to the top cause its a very good topic.I feel that cold noses have been breed out lately.I feed my hounds every evening bout an hour ir 2 befor I hunt.

MIKE

THATS CORRECT EVENTUALY I WILL GET ME A NICE LITTER OUT HER HER MOTHER IS A GRAND PUP OF COWEE CREEK CLINT SHE IS A NICE ONE I HAVE BEEN LUCKY WITH THIS BLOOD LINE I WILL GRAN HER OUT I DRIVE A LONG WAYS TO HUNT I WILL TAKE ONE HUNT AT A TIME TO TRY FINISH HER

JACKSON

SORRY THAT I GOT OFF THE TOPIC

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Originally posted by boxmanwillie
THATS CORRECT EVENTUALY I WILL GET ME A NICE LITTER OUT HER HER MOTHER IS A GRAND PUP OF COWEE CREEK CLINT SHE IS A NICE ONE I HAVE BEEN LUCKY WITH THIS BLOOD LINE I WILL GRAN HER OUT I DRIVE A LONG WAYS TO HUNT I WILL TAKE ONE HUNT AT A TIME TO TRY FINISH HER

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You dont have to appologize to me man.I like to talk dogs.