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Posted by Knox on 04-28-2011 05:54 PM:

WOW.......

quote:
Originally posted by dbpro56
I`m really not sure who or what the problem is, but gas prices in our area
have just set a new record high! Thank you obama, and your administration for looking out for America, and our middle and lower class!
Maybe with that money you loaned Brazil to help them with their oil exploration, we can soon expect gas prices to go back to $3.75 a gal.




I remember back when Bush was in office, he was getting the blame for high gas prices and a bunch of you guys were saying the President has NOTHING to do with gas prices.......now all of a sudden the President does have control.........I am confused now, I think you guys make it up as you go along, kind of just like Donald Trump...( who looked like a FOOL about the Birther issue.....Still laughing over that one )..........I think that Congress has something to do with it since the Republicans took over.....LOL...

Oh yeah, Bush really took good care of America and the Middle class.............Thanks George for a job well done.......

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Posted by trackdriver on 04-28-2011 06:37 PM:

Most of this stuff has nothing to do with his policies. I wonder where most of it's coming from?? hum!

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Posted by GA DAWG on 04-28-2011 07:38 PM:

If anybody can't see that Obama is a dumb middle eastern muslim loving idiot by now. Well you ain't got good sence.

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Posted by Rip on 04-28-2011 09:07 PM:

Re: WOW.......

quote:
Originally posted by Knox
I remember back when Bush was in office, he was getting the blame for high gas prices and a bunch of you guys were saying the President has NOTHING to do with gas prices.......now all of a sudden the President does have control.........I am confused now, I think you guys make it up as you go along, kind of just like Donald Trump...( who looked like a FOOL about the Birther issue.....Still laughing over that one )..........I think that Congress has something to do with it since the Republicans took over.....LOL...

Oh yeah, Bush really took good care of America and the Middle class.............Thanks George for a job well done.......



I kinda think that's the point Knox. The same forces are responsible now as it was then but you leftys won't admit it and still try and blame things on Bush.

The same liberal policies that haven't allowed a refinery to be built since the 60's, the same liberals that won't allow us to drill, are the same liberals that were crying about Bush having big oil buddies and how Oprama would change that.

Well now Oprama is in there and the gas prices are still up there. That's because the same forces are in effect but now everythings OK cause the messiah, the anointed one himself Oprama is in office.

So if you are sayin that Oprama isn't to blame now then you gotta admit that Bush wasn't the blame then.

Leftists can't do that.

I can. I have never said it was the presidents fault, wasn't then isn't now.

But you won't find very many people on the left that are honest, and therefore you won't find very many on the left that will say it wasn't Bush and it isn't Oprama.

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Posted by dbpro56 on 04-28-2011 09:28 PM:

Re: WOW.......

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Knox
[B]I remember back when Bush was in office, he was getting the blame for high gas prices and a bunch of you guys were saying the President has NOTHING to do with gas prices.......now all of a sudden the President does have control.........I am confused now, I think you guys make it up

Who are you guys? When your hero, the annointed one, the ONE, as Oprah proclaimed him to be came into office gas prices were less than 2.00 a gal. The mainstream media and people like you, crucified Bush when gas prices soared under his administration. If I recall, Bush was in
office for 8 years, its only taken this clown a little over 2 years to wipe us out. I heard with my own ears, he had no problem with gas going over
4.00 gal., he just didn`t want it to go up so quick, and his energy czar wants us to pay like Europe....8.00 a gal. Maybe according to left wingers
I probably mis-heard!


Posted by mr.p on 04-28-2011 09:32 PM:

friends you left out gun slinging channey but you got bushie right.both are kicked back right now laughing at their puppets ok.

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Posted by Sambo on 04-28-2011 10:14 PM:

I saw earlier today Exxon profits jumped 69%.


Posted by goodtimekennel on 04-28-2011 10:17 PM:

Re: WOW.......

quote:
Originally posted by Knox
I remember back when Bush was in office, he was getting the blame for high gas prices and a bunch of you guys were saying the President has NOTHING to do with gas prices.......now all of a sudden the President does have control.........I am confused now, I think you guys make it up as you go along, kind of just like Donald Trump...( who looked like a FOOL about the Birther issue.....Still laughing over that one )..........I think that Congress has something to do with it since the Republicans took over.....LOL...

Oh yeah, Bush really took good care of America and the Middle class.............Thanks George for a job well done.......



realy thats what you think? I SAY DRILL BABY DRILL ,,, HERE IN THE USA

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Posted by trackdriver on 04-28-2011 11:36 PM:

Does the oil go to the world market if harvested here?

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Posted by shakethevine on 04-28-2011 11:45 PM:

Some of you guys crack me up...........when the goverment is passing goverment run healthcare, or stepping in and getting a piece of the auto industry.....you all cried "Socialism" we don't want you in our business.....lol

But when capitalism starts to hurt the pocket, the very same guys cry "Obama you idiot, step in and help us"...lol

Most of you talk out the side of your mouth..............

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Posted by Rip on 04-29-2011 01:01 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by shakethevine
Some of you guys crack me up...........when the goverment is passing goverment run healthcare, or stepping in and getting a piece of the auto industry.....you all cried "Socialism" we don't want you in our business.....lol

But when capitalism starts to hurt the pocket, the very same guys cry "Obama you idiot, step in and help us"...lol

Most of you talk out the side of your mouth..............



The only ones talking out the side is the liberals.

If you notice not one of the people here are saying Oprama should do something socialistic. Nobody is calling for him to nationalize the oil companys.

We are just calling out the liberals who screamed and cried it was all Bushes fault to be consistant. If it was Bushes fault then it has to be Opramas fault now. Or, if you prefer to say it's not Opramas fault then you have to admit it wasn't Bushes fault either. Be consistant. I will venture to bet less than 1% of the liberals are honest enough to be consistant here.

I just want the left to get out of the way and let the free market correct by allowing drilling and refineries.

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Posted by dbpro56 on 04-29-2011 01:42 AM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by shakethevine
[B]Some of you guys crack me up...........when the goverment is passing goverment run healthcare, or stepping in and getting a piece of the auto industry.....you all cried "Socialism" we don't want you in our business.....lol

How about taking the moratorium off drilling for our own oil in the gulf. Or drilling in Anwar, or working on getting some of the oil
out of N. Dakota. Maybe we could build a refinery or ten, and my guess is, oil prices would be affordable for everyone, even the for the bums who want the government handouts! Once we do that,
maybe Obama can come up with a whirlybird to fit on the top of our cars and use the wind power the libs are so fond of! Or the electric joke of a car...40 miles on a charge, give me a break!


Posted by Wingman66 on 04-29-2011 02:45 AM:

Rip I'm going with shakethevine here. Has a very valid point. Its something I started to mention in the above post but didn't for lack of time. This is what gets me about the right vs left thing. BOTH are complaining to the same source for something they want just like a child trying to play mama and daddy against each other, ie... dad said yes and mom said no. The right wing DEMANDS the government stop doing something for the left. The left DEMANDS the government stop doing something for the right. Right or left, you're all 'demanding' while sucking from the same teat, which is the government. I just can't for the life of me understand why the right and left can't both see how they are being suckered into chosing sides with the SAME devil.

I'm going to have to disagree with the drilling, if that makes me a 'lefty' then so be it. Drill, drill, drill all you want. If all the oil in the world was refined and we had a quadbillion million gallons of gas in reserve, they STILL would not lower the price. You need it, they know it, they control the supply, you buy it or go on welfare due to lack of transportation. I can spend all the 'profits' in the paperwork to show no profit if I wanted to in a business. How much profit you want me to show? 5, 10, 50 or a 1000%? Big oil is no different.

If they can put a rover on mars and spend billions doing it, they can make a electric car and we all know it. Yes I agree with electric cars 100%. Remember we are in the baby steps at this moment. 40 miles on a single charge is well within my drive to work. If I want to take a longer trip I still can with the back up gas tank which only generates the power to charge the battery. At equal three digit MPG, I'll try one anyway.

Scroll down to the 'performance' section. Again we are in the baby steps of electric cars, but it is a step nevertheless. At roughly $1.50 per day to go back and forth to work instead of roughly $100.00 per 7 days, I'll give it a try.

http://www.chevrolet.com/volt/#performance

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Posted by Wingman66 on 04-29-2011 03:13 AM:

P.S. Rip...

quote:
I wouldn't own a Volt if you PAID me to own it. Don't want anything to do with Gubment Motors.

And I especially don't want to be force fed an inferior product like the Volt cause the gubment wants me to have one.


8 airbags, 3 yr/36000 to 8 yr/100000 mile warranty, $1.50 per day to operate, 2011 Motor Trend car of the year, Insurance Institute for Highway Safety 'Top Safety Pick', etc..etc.. does not sound like a 'inferior' product to me.

As far as the 'gubment wants me to have one' I'm not sure what you mean. Obama has done alot (and little at the same time) but forcing me to drive a certain vechicle isn't one of them lol. Free market to buy what I want I could just as easy buy foreign.

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Posted by shakethevine on 04-29-2011 03:32 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Rip
The only ones talking out the side is the liberals.

If you notice not one of the people here are saying Oprama should do something socialistic. Nobody is calling for him to nationalize the oil companys.

We are just calling out the liberals who screamed and cried it was all Bushes fault to be consistant. If it was Bushes fault then it has to be Opramas fault now. Or, if you prefer to say it's not Opramas fault then you have to admit it wasn't Bushes fault either. Be consistant. I will venture to bet less than 1% of the liberals are honest enough to be consistant here.

I just want the left to get out of the way and let the free market correct by allowing drilling and refineries.




Oil is a world wide traded commodity....that being said, we live in a capitalistic country who can sell it for what ever they want, and that means off the truck or at the pumps....99.9% of the time it is at market value.

Sorry Rip......but if you ask the goverment (Obama), to do anything to handcuff big oil, to bring gas prices down...you are supporting a form of Socialism...and if we drill baby, drill, big oil still can sell for whatever they want.... in less we support some form of goverment intervention.

To be honest.....I'm on the fence with the foundation of the USA (Capitalism)......and goverment intervention (socialism), because I would love for the goverment to put the brakes on big oil. I believe the price of gas is the hub of our economy, and it determines the price of everything in this country. But with that being said, I love the fact that we live in a free country, and can make our millions if we have the means.......lol..I never will, but I like the fact I can.

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Posted by pinneyexcavatio on 04-29-2011 04:59 AM:

thanks

quote:
Originally posted by dbpro56
[QUOTE]Originally posted by shakethevine
[B]Some of you guys crack me up...........when the goverment is passing goverment run healthcare, or stepping in and getting a piece of the auto industry.....you all cried "Socialism" we don't want you in our business.....lol

How about taking the moratorium off drilling for our own oil in the gulf. Or drilling in Anwar, or working on getting some of the oil
out of N. Dakota. Maybe we could build a refinery or ten, and my guess is, oil prices would be affordable for everyone, even the for the bums who want the government handouts! Once we do that,
maybe Obama can come up with a whirlybird to fit on the top of our cars and use the wind power the libs are so fond of! Or the electric joke of a car...40 miles on a charge, give me a break!



thanks dpro you saved me some typin. i dont remember bush shutting down offshore drilling


Posted by BLCKRIVREDBONES on 04-29-2011 05:24 AM:

oh boy... you libtards are lucky I don't have time to get involved in this conversation. I've chewed up and spit out all you "usual suspects" so many times I'm surprised you have the nerve to post.


Posted by pinneyexcavatio on 04-29-2011 05:24 AM:

can liberals (libtards) read and comprehend????

At long last, Congress is launching a counteroffensive to President Obama’s war on fossil fuels.

A bipartisan group of senators recently grilled Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar about bureaucratic delays in approving deep-water oil drilling permits in the Gulf of Mexico. And, following an Energy and Commerce Committee hearing on the impact of EPA regulation of greenhouse gas emissions on jobs, legislation was introduced to block that agency’s regulatory authority.

Obama has been undeniably consistent in his unrelenting and unapologetic attack on our nation’s traditional forms of energy — coal, oil and natural gas.

While running for president, Obama famously said he sought to make electricity prices “necessarily skyrocket” through cap-and-trade legislation and “bankrupt” power plants committing the progressive crime of using coal as an energy source.

“One of my top priorities next year is to have an energy policy that begins to address all facets of our overreliance on fossil fuels. We may end up having to do it in chunks, as opposed to some sort of comprehensive omnibus legislation.”

One such “chunk” is Obama wielding his executive powers through the EPA to discourage the use of fossil fuels. The EPA’s end-run around Congress to regulate greenhouse gas emissions under the Clean Air Act is a prime example of this new administrative assault.

Coal is a cheap and abundant natural resource currently providing about half of our country’s electricity. By cracking down on emissions such as carbon dioxide, released when fossil fuels are burned, the EPA’s new regulation would raise the price of energy. It would have a particularly devastating effect on coal-fired electricity generation.

Indiana, Kentucky, Missouri, North Dakota, Ohio, Utah, West Virginia and Wyoming derive more than eighty percent of their electricity from coal and, not surprisingly, these states have among the lowest energy prices in the country.

Left unchecked, EPA’s backdoor effort to limit carbon dioxide would hit these states hard.

Senator Jim Inhofe (R-OK) and Representatives Fred Upton (R-MI) and Ed Whitfield (R-KY) are leading the charge to blunt Obama’s regulatory assault. They are the lead sponsors of the Energy Tax Prevention Act of 2011. By removing the EPA’s regulatory authority under the Clean Air Act, their legislation would prevent the EPA from forcing factories and power plants to cut emissions. It does not, however, change a deal stuck between the Obama administration and the auto industry to reduce vehicle emissions.

Importantly, this effort to rein in the EPA is not limited to Republicans — Democrats also back the legislation. Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV) and Representatives Dan Boren (D-OK), Collin Peterson (D-MN) and Nick Rahall (D-WV) are co-sponsoring the bill.

Resistance from Obama’s own party to his war on fossil fuels is not restricted to limiting the EPA’s power. During the recent Senate hearing on the Interior Department’s budget, Secretary Ken Salazar faced harsh questions from Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) about his department’s failure to approve a backlog of deep-sea drilling permits in the Gulf of Mexico.

Landrieu pressed Salazar to explain what he was doing to speed up approvals, telling Salazar that the uncertainty surrounding the permitting process could impede new drilling applications.


Posted by john nannemann on 04-29-2011 01:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by BLCKRIVREDBONES
oh boy... you libtards are lucky I don't have time to get involved in this conversation. I've chewed up and spit out all you "usual suspects" so many times I'm surprised you have the nerve to post.


they don't have sense enough to know they shouldn't have the nerve to post- and i mean that in the "most adult way".
i think the responses by the leftists on this thread are indicative of their own general "thickness". so thick, so obtuse as to not be able to detect sarcasm and/or hypocrisy. i don't think anybody could show ONE TIME were i have advocated "intervention" into the markets by the government, irregardless of political stripe.

to me, it is STUPID/INSANE/IGNORANT to meanmouth the oil co's. they are HUGE employers, their actions support business that are also HUGE employers. they take out a HUGE capital investment onto themselves and take on a HUGE risk doing so. for the most part, a "private" risk born by a "voluntary" action of private investors. they do this for a relatively meager return on their investment of capital over what the average long term CD rate is. all this for an 8% or LESS net profit. microsoft or apple can make a 30+% profit quarter after quarter selling you all 0's and 1's and as long as you can get on this internet and azz around you happy as a pig in slop. exxon hires and PAYS HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of people to bring YOU something to haul you and your fat lazy azzes along with whatever other sheet you wish to drag along with you for 26 CENTS a mile($4gal divided by 15miles per gal) and you want to recruit your political henchmen to punish them- STUPID( and i mean this in the most adult way).

i have said on this forum many times to the dupes to "WAKE UP". i think what i should be saying is GROW UP.


Posted by JustinH23 on 04-29-2011 01:22 PM:

What we need

Is someone who can go to Washington, and not become corrupt like everyone else. Too much deal making, too much leniency. It seems as if no one is willing to stand up for what we sent them for.

This doesn't really have anything to do with gas prices, more good ol' gubmint work. Just saw a story out of Indianapolis where a mother is going to lose her rent assistance because she lied about who was living with her, a gun and drugs were found in the apartment where she lived, and she lied about how much money she makes. They decided to revoke her rent assistance, which was 900-1000 a MONTH. So here I go to work every day, pay my taxes, pay my bills, but can't get decent representation in Indianapolis or Washington. That's a load of crap.

We need someone who'll send wastes of oxygen, like the one mentioned above, packing.

I've got a lot of other good ideas, some of my own, some I agree with others on, that I think I could put to good use. Bad part is I'm not old enough to run for President, and you walker men couldn't stand the thought of Blue dogs in the white house! lol

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Posted by Gibbo on 04-29-2011 01:50 PM:

Comical

I started this thread as a joke for the most part. I am amused by the ways people continue to blame George Bush for everything that is wrong with this country, while worshipping his majesty obama.

There is no doubt in my mine that Bush will always be blamed for everything that is wrong. That is until we get another Republican President(which i pray is sooner than later) that you libs can blame

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Posted by bigtimberkennel on 04-29-2011 01:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by walkerking
try pulling up to pumps and filling up a semi wright now! now that hurts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


10-4 I don't own one anymore and with these prices glad I don't. A buddy of mine still does.............fuel for the week $2000.00 or more with no surcharge ouch!


Posted by dbpro56 on 04-29-2011 02:44 PM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wingman66
[B]Rip I'm going with shakethevine here.

I'm going to have to disagree with the drilling, if that makes me a 'lefty' then so be it. Drill, drill, drill all you want. If all the oil in the world was refined and we had a quadbillion million gallons of gas in reserve, they STILL would not lower the price.

Ok, let some brilliant mind come up with an alternative for oil, and I`ll jump on board! We`ve had the combustable engine for over 100 years, my question is , how long will it take to come up with that alternative fuel
source that can accommodate the whole country? Until that happens, why not use the resources that are already at hand! I can afford $2.50 a gal., but once the price hits above $3.00 a gal., it puts a dent in my budget.By the way, I drive more than 40 miles, 1 way, to work, so the Volt might not be a great choice for me!


Posted by Rip on 04-29-2011 02:57 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by shakethevine
Oil is a world wide traded commodity....that being said, we live in a capitalistic country who can sell it for what ever they want, and that means off the truck or at the pumps....99.9% of the time it is at market value.

Sorry Rip......but if you ask the goverment (Obama), to do anything to handcuff big oil, to bring gas prices down...you are supporting a form of Socialism...and if we drill baby, drill, big oil still can sell for whatever they want.... in less we support some form of goverment intervention.

To be honest.....I'm on the fence with the foundation of the USA (Capitalism)......and goverment intervention (socialism), because I would love for the goverment to put the brakes on big oil. I believe the price of gas is the hub of our economy, and it determines the price of everything in this country. But with that being said, I love the fact that we live in a free country, and can make our millions if we have the means.......lol..I never will, but I like the fact I can.



Again you missed the point. NOBODY is wanting a gubment intervention. To the contrary we are wanting gubment to GET THE HECK OUT OF THE WAY AND QUIT HANDCUFFING the private sector.

So again, can you admit that the oil prices had nothing to do with Bush when he was in office?

Or will you go the other way and say the oil prices are all the fault of Oprama.

You can't have it both ways. Either they both are to blame for oil prices or neither are to blame.

I have always said neither are to blame.

Liberals in the past have said Bush was to blame, so if they don't say Oprama is to blame now then they are the ones that are hipocrits.

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Posted by Rip on 04-29-2011 03:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dbpro56
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wingman66
[B]Rip I'm going with shakethevine here.

I'm going to have to disagree with the drilling, if that makes me a 'lefty' then so be it. Drill, drill, drill all you want. If all the oil in the world was refined and we had a quadbillion million gallons of gas in reserve, they STILL would not lower the price.

Ok, let some brilliant mind come up with an alternative for oil, and I`ll jump on board! We`ve had the combustable engine for over 100 years, my question is , how long will it take to come up with that alternative fuel
source that can accommodate the whole country? Until that happens, why not use the resources that are already at hand! I can afford $2.50 a gal., but once the price hits above $3.00 a gal., it puts a dent in my budget.By the way, I drive more than 40 miles, 1 way, to work, so the Volt might not be a great choice for me!



Yep the Volt is an inferior product hyped by gubment motors and the left wing media.

Let's not forget that I think it was the Gremlin that was motor trends Car of the Year as well LMBO.

It's junk for anything other than driving around the block. It doesn't compare to the internal combustion engine and the greenies don't take into account all the fossil fuels used to charge the battery, nor the gas it uses when it needs gas etc.

One day we will have something that can compare to the gas engine in performance. When they do then I will own one.

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