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Posted by pigsit on 07-12-2010 01:59 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Lipperman
You're right, HOBO.

It used to crack me up to read those ads that said "will breed to approved females only". Yea, right.

It's amazing how fast that cash will get them approved!

I'm not famous; I've never owned a famous hound, and probably the only compliment I've ever received was from Tim Ball, he told me "I always kept above average coon dogs." If you coon hunt in Okla, that's considered a compliment. I have probably owned, trained, bought, sold and culled as many Lipper sons, daughters, grandsons and granddaughters of Lipper as any man in the country. The absolute best five hounds that ever went through my pens were sons/daughters, GRS/GRD of Lipper. I am currently hunting a string of Lipper/Banjo bred hounds that have many of the Lipper traits; fast track dogs, loud mouths and wide hunters. I coon hunt constantly, and have for forty years, usually from five to eight nights a week, depending on what I have to do; it takes a pretty tough hound to standup under the kind of hunting I put on them. The Lipper dogs filled the bill for me. The good ones were "born started", it was not unusual to have a pup run and tree the first night in the woods. They had loud mouths, they would drownout common tree dogs, they could move a track like nothing I had ever seen before, they were one bark tree dogs and accurate. They were real score card dogs that could dominate a cast. Now as far as Lipper's reproducing ability, everybody wanted a Lipper dog, they bred all kinds of females to him I'm sure good ones and I'm also sure some that shouldn't ever have been bred. I took a young dual ch female to Lipper in August one year, and Mac told me I was #115 for the year. That's a lot of females. Like I said, everone wanted a Lipper dog, his pups were in great demand, and if it was out of Lipper, you could sell it; so I'm sure many of the females bred couldn't reproduce any thing of value. I have never met Mr. Hopkins, I never hunted with Lipper, but I sure turned a lot of his off spring loose. I wish him every success with this litter. Tom

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Posted by Hopkins/Lipper on 07-12-2010 04:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pigsit
I'm not famous; I've never owned a famous hound, and probably the only compliment I've ever received was from Tim Ball, he told me "I always kept above average coon dogs." If you coon hunt in Okla, that's considered a compliment. I have probably owned, trained, bought, sold and culled as many Lipper sons, daughters, grandsons and granddaughters of Lipper as any man in the country. The absolute best five hounds that ever went through my pens were sons/daughters, GRS/GRD of Lipper. I am currently hunting a string of Lipper/Banjo bred hounds that have many of the Lipper traits; fast track dogs, loud mouths and wide hunters. I coon hunt constantly, and have for forty years, usually from five to eight nights a week, depending on what I have to do; it takes a pretty tough hound to standup under the kind of hunting I put on them. The Lipper dogs filled the bill for me. The good ones were "born started", it was not unusual to have a pup run and tree the first night in the woods. They had loud mouths, they would drownout common tree dogs, they could move a track like nothing I had ever seen before, they were one bark tree dogs and accurate. They were real score card dogs that could dominate a cast. Now as far as Lipper's reproducing ability, everybody wanted a Lipper dog, they bred all kinds of females to him I'm sure good ones and I'm also sure some that shouldn't ever have been bred. I took a young dual ch female to Lipper in August one year, and Mac told me I was #115 for the year. That's a lot of females. Like I said, everone wanted a Lipper dog, his pups were in great demand, and if it was out of Lipper, you could sell it; so I'm sure many of the females bred couldn't reproduce any thing of value. I have never met Mr. Hopkins, I never hunted with Lipper, but I sure turned a lot of his off spring loose. I wish him every success with this litter. Tom

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Tom.. You evidently have a grasp and understanding of days when LIPPER was in his hay Day, as well, as the dogs of today.
It is refreshing to know that there are some who recognise the difference and can share in my excitement "THE HOUNDS OF IMPACT" that are due in only 2 more days. Thanks for an honest and informative post. I wish you the best

Tom Hopkins
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Posted by josh on 07-12-2010 04:47 PM:

Im a skeptic, I am by nature hard on evaluating anything. If I tell you I have a young dog that is doing allright, you can bet it is way above average.

No dog walks on water, no dog ever has...They are ALL just dogs.

I still say Lipper had more opertunity to prove his awsome reproducing ability than any hound ever has or ever will. His past success is in the eye of the beholder I guess.

On thing is for sure, The older I get, the harder is is to find somthing to get excited about....When it comes to pups excitement will go a LONG way. This combined with the price tag on these pups will gaurantee them more oppertunity than any other pup alive.

Good luck with your venture Mr. Hopkins

Posted by Ron Ashbaugh on 07-12-2010 05:28 PM:

From all accounts read on here, a good Lipper dog would probably last about a month and get hit on the road. We don't have the woods for those big wide hunters.

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Posted by Hopkins/Lipper on 07-12-2010 05:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by josh
Im a skeptic, I am by nature hard on evaluating anything. If I tell you I have a young dog that is doing allright, you can bet it is way above average.

No dog walks on water, no dog ever has...They are ALL just dogs.

I still say Lipper had more opertunity to prove his awsome reproducing ability than any hound ever has or ever will. His past success is in the eye of the beholder I guess.

On thing is for sure, The older I get, the harder is is to find somthing to get excited about....When it comes to pups excitement will go a LONG way. This combined with the price tag on these pups will gaurantee them more oppertunity than any other pup alive.

Good luck with your venture Mr. Hopkins

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Josh I think what you said is sincere and holds a lot of truth. I appreciate your thoughts and oppinion. You are certainly right about the fact that what we as coonhunters seek is an excitement and enjoyment from what is not easy nor is it a lazy mans sport.
Many who have never expierenced a dog such as a LIPPER or LAWYER or CASH cannot comprehend the thrill that dogs like these can bring. After having one, nothing else will satisfy you. This litter of LIPPERS IMPACT has me more excited and fired up than anything I can remember. To me that is what it is all about.They are due in only 2 more days .Thanks for your post.

Tom Hopkins
Hopkins/Lipper

Posted by JJ on 07-12-2010 05:40 PM:

Many of us had the thrill of having a good dog. Many of us.

Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-12-2010 06:03 PM:

I have seen it mentioned many times on this post about the price of these pups being high. I have not seen the price of these dogs. Did I just miss it? How much are these pups and who do you have to be to get one?

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Posted by bandithunter on 07-12-2010 06:20 PM:

Hopkins/Lipper, I wish you well with those pups. Lipper dogs are the only walkers I'd feed.

Posted by Hopkins/Lipper on 07-12-2010 06:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
I have seen it mentioned many times on this post about the price of these pups being high. I have not seen the price of these dogs. Did I just miss it? How much are these pups and who do you have to be to get one?

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Okie Dawg... I have not yet priced one of these little LIPPERS as we do not know how many we will have as yet. As far as who gets one, that depends on the best hunter I can possibly put one in the hands of. A serious hard hunter that will put them in the woods and in the winners circle. I have every confidence that they will be history makers and truly"HOUNDS OF IMPACT".
Only 2 more days untill they arrive. I AM FIRED UP !!!!

Tom Hopkins
Hopkins/Lipper

Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-12-2010 06:27 PM:

I am sure glad to see some of the old blood brought back to the top. I wish you the very best of success with them. I would love to keep up with how they do. Wish I could get one but I couldn't do one justise in the night hunts. I don't fight cuss and argue over things in the woods as much as you have to at times to win.LOL

Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-12-2010 06:40 PM:

Sure hope you will put some picks of the pups up when they get here.

Posted by Hopkins/Lipper on 07-12-2010 07:25 PM:

THERE'S A LIPPER TRAIN ACOMIN'

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
Sure hope you will put some picks of the pups up when they get here.

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Okie..... you can bet I will get some pics of these latest LIPPERS up on the board as soon as they get here . We do not have long to wait now,. Only 2 more days till this litter of "HOUNDS OF IMPACT" will arrive. Thanks for your interest.

Tom Hopkins
Hopkins/Lipper

Posted by BAWL_TRACK on 07-12-2010 07:49 PM:

everbody runnin their mouth bout lipper this lipper that ..... what kinda female is it hell she might need some credit cause they are half her not all lipper.

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Posted by barryg35 on 07-12-2010 07:59 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by BAWL_TRACK
everbody runnin their mouth bout lipper this lipper that ..... what kinda female is it hell she might need some credit cause they are half her not all lipper.

i was thinking same thing. she's being over shadowed and I tend to think the female put more traits than the males do. jmo

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-12-2010 08:39 PM:

I would assume by this time they would know what cross's well with Lipper. The man doing it seems to be well versed in the Lipper blood line. If he put the money out for semen I don't think he would use it on a junk bitch.
I am like you guys though and think the bitch puts just as much in it as the stud. I would say no more no less though.

Posted by Hopkins/Lipper on 07-12-2010 08:52 PM:

Mother of LIPPER'S IMPACT PUPS

quote:
Originally posted by BAWL_TRACK
everbody runnin their mouth bout lipper this lipper that ..... what kinda female is it hell she might need some credit cause they are half her not all lipper.

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Bawl_Track... Anna's pedigree has been posted many times in the past few weeks, but I will tell you this. I have not saved this priceless semen for 26 years to surgically implant it into a brood bitch plug. So here goes about ANNA....First and foremost Anna is all coondog by herself or in company. Her sire is Cowee Creek Clint X a Rock River Frank female. She is a litter mate to the Tremite dog of Richard Turner's. She is a 62lb. Square flat redheaded, blanketbacked, catfooted , tick free female with a huge male dog mouth. She goes hunting hard and fast by herself.
She gives an honest open loud bawl mouth on the track. She runs a coon to catch it has an awesome hair raising locate and is forevermore a LOUD HARD treedog. SOOOO..... gentlemen she will hold up her end of this breeding. These pups should be beautiful and powerhouses. Only 2 days to go till we can hold them in our hands. THANK YOU GOD!!
Tom Hopkins
Hopkins/Lipper

Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-12-2010 08:56 PM:

Re: Mother of LIPPER'S IMPACT PUPS

quote:
Originally posted by Hopkins/Lipper
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Bawl_Track... Anna's pedigree has been posted many times in the past few weeks, but I will tell you this. I have not saved this priceless semen for 26 years to surgically implant it into a brood bitch plug. So here goes about ANNA....First and foremost Anna is all coondog by herself or in company. Her sire is Cowee Creek Clint X a Rock River Frank female. She is a litter mate to the Tremite dog of Richard Turner's. She is a 62lb. Square flat redheaded, blanketbacked, catfooted , tick free female with a huge male dog mouth. She goes hunting hard and fast by herself.
She gives an honest open loud bawl mouth on the track. She runs a coon to catch it has an awesome hair raising locate and is forevermore a LOUD HARD treedog. SOOOO..... gentlemen she will hold up her end of this breeding. These pups should be beautiful and powerhouses. Only 2 days to go till we can hold them in our hands. THANK YOU GOD!!
Tom Hopkins
Hopkins/Lipper

LMAO

Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-12-2010 09:08 PM:

You know if your not impressed with the bloodline of this dog I don't know why you would read this thread but for us antique lovers. The bloodline would be worth a lot just to take a walk behind history and that is what the owners of these pups will get to do. I would love to get in the woods with one when they are old enough to hunt. Even if I am not lucky enough to own one. I think this is something the younger guys wont understand for a long time.

Posted by barryg35 on 07-12-2010 09:50 PM:

i read lots of threads on this board i'm not knocking whats being done. not knocking either dog or the walker breed. i just asked with a breeding of this "magnitude" what % is going to have to be successful in the eyes of those involved?

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-12-2010 10:22 PM:

I don't know about that. I don't worry about what impresses anyone but me. Gave up on trying to impress anyone else a long time ago. LOL

Posted by Hopkins/Lipper on 07-12-2010 10:56 PM:

THERE'S A LIPPER TRAIN ACOMIN'

quote:
Originally posted by barryg35
i read lots of threads on this board i'm not knocking whats being done. not knocking either dog or the walker breed. i just asked with a breeding of this "magnitude" what % is going to have to be successful in the eyes of those involved?

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Barry...I would have to say that I am as involved in this historic happening as anyone could be after saving this priceless semenfor 26 years. To me at this point, a live litter would not only be a success but a miracle from GOD. I have every confidence that these HOUNDS OF IMPACT will speak for themselves. It will be crucial to get them in the hands of real coonhunters, because they will not be for the lazy or the faint of heart. You better have your boots on tight when cut one loose. Thanks for the question.
Only 1 1/2 days to go.
Tom Hopkins
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Posted by barryg35 on 07-12-2010 10:57 PM:

and good luck with them

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Posted by jackbob42 on 07-12-2010 11:15 PM:

What was the best litter Lipper ever produced?
Who was he bred to , how many pups in the litter , and how many made coon dogs?

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 07-12-2010 11:30 PM:

Was it the Litter he Sired that Lockdown Lassie was in ??

He was bred to Rocker's Banjo Babe.

Don't know how Many in the litter or how many had Points ??

Sure Wish UKC had a data bank we could look at.

Some other Breedings of Importance

Lipper X Spoon's Sue

Lipper X Hickory Nut Ann

Lipper X Foster's Little Misty

Lipper X Aranosa Creek Rose

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 07-12-2010 11:57 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by jackbob42
What was the best litter Lipper ever produced?
Who was he bred to , how many pups in the litter , and how many made coon dogs?

My guess would be the ones that will be born in a day and a half. LOL

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