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Posted by Okie Dawg on 05-27-2010 03:57 PM:

Why is it the crap stirrers never sighn there name or give there location on this thing. That is what the terroriest do guys. If your not proud of what you say don't say it. If you are put your name and state on it...........If not you are just a scared little guy hideing behind a bush trying to cause everyone to be as terrorized and paniced as you are.........

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Posted by Hokieman on 05-27-2010 05:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
Why is it the crap stirrers never sighn there name or give there location on this thing. That is what the terroriest do guys. If your not proud of what you say don't say it. If you are put your name and state on it...........If not you are just a scared little guy hideing behind a bush trying to cause everyone to be as terrorized and paniced as you are.........


When Clinton was in office Hilary his wife was having an affair with Vince Foster and selling secrets to china. Look were she is now...

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Posted by shakethevine on 05-27-2010 06:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hokieman
When Clinton was in office Hilary his wife was having an affair with Vince Foster and selling secrets to china. Look were she is now...



LOL.......where and the world do you guys come up with this stuff. There must be some kind of Democratic/Obama hater website that feeds misguided information to people.

I can just see it now...next weeks revelation on this board........"Obamas new dog has ties with Muslim dog food company".

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Posted by CWS on 05-27-2010 06:31 PM:

Mr. Harter, some of us Americans have yet to sell out all of our values and morals. If you support this man in any way shape or form you are doing just that. I feel sorry for those of you that can't see through this fake. One day we will all stand before God and give an account as to the decisions we made. Weather you believe in God or not the day is coming, will you be able to stand in front of God look him in the eye and say yes I wanted an abortionist and a supporter of same sex marriage in office to rule over me?

Don't you people get it? Obama wants to be youre ruler, he doesn't want you to have any say in anything. He wants it his way and his way only. Let me tell you something, It's GODS' WAY and no other way. Keep on supporting him and slowly watch this great country continue to crumble.


Posted by Skull Bones on 05-27-2010 06:50 PM:

I agree with CWS 100%, AMEN!!!!!!!

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Posted by barryg35 on 05-27-2010 07:09 PM:

do you know where YOUR "great" president is going to be this weekend while AMERICA is honoring its vets and military with the ceremony on memorial day? he will be vacationing in freakin CHINA!!!!

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Posted by shakethevine on 05-27-2010 07:31 PM:

quote:
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do you know where YOUR "great" president is going to be this weekend while AMERICA is honoring its vets and military with the ceremony on memorial day? he will be vacationing in freakin CHINA!!!!



Again misguided information........Chicago not China, and he is cutting it short.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...prss=rss_nation

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Posted by TOP on 05-27-2010 07:32 PM:

we did sale arms to Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war since Iran was the greater evil to America....however, we did not have anything to do with their chemical warefare operation.

One other thing....I saw a gold star Mom that was a little upset with the president over breaking a date to meet with them during the memorial day holiday....but I guess he could go by pearl on his vacation....

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Posted by Traxx Addict on 05-27-2010 11:48 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
Reagan was sending Huessin money and the gass he use to kill his people LONG AFTER we found out what he was doing.


Got proof?? Care to share it??

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Posted by Traxx Addict on 05-27-2010 11:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
Why is it the crap stirrers never sighn there name or give there location on this thing. That is what the terroriest do guys. If your not proud of what you say don't say it. If you are put your name and state on it...........If not you are just a scared little guy hideing behind a bush trying to cause everyone to be as terrorized and paniced as you are.........


In other words...You cant defend your support of a man who has openly appointed TERRORISTS, COMMUNISTS, ANTI AMERICAN RADICALS and a PEDOPHILE to czar and advisory positions within his administration.

Are those the kind of folks you hang out with Okie??

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Posted by Traxx Addict on 05-27-2010 11:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by shakethevine
LOL.......where and the world do you guys come up with this stuff.


Actually..it was widely reported on back in the 90's and mentioned in several memoirs and biographies of Clinton friends and staffers recently.

http://entertainment.timesonline.co...icle1874664.ece

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Posted by shakethevine on 05-28-2010 12:21 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Traxx Addict
Actually..it was widely reported on back in the 90's and mentioned in several memoirs and biographies of Clinton friends and staffers recently.

http://entertainment.timesonline.co...icle1874664.ece



Traxx.....that was a good read, but still has no concrete facts in it. Just a story of two close friends. Sorry if I don't fall into the world of assumers.

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Posted by john nannemann on 05-28-2010 12:23 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
Why is it the crap stirrers never sighn there name or give there location on this thing. That is what the terroriest do guys. If your not proud of what you say don't say it. If you are put your name and state on it...........If not you are just a scared little guy hideing behind a bush trying to cause everyone to be as terrorized and paniced as you are.........



look to the left of this post- you WILL and ALWAYS have seen my real name posted. pm me if you would like an address to come over for further discussion. i have an extensive library here at my house for historical consultation.

i ain't hiding, and neither is your COMMUNIST president. he has been VERY open during his entire short national political life that HE IS A COMMUNIST. read what HE put his name on writing, listen to his speeches, read some political philosophy. he ain't exactly been hiding it. he IS A COMMUNIST, by ideological belief- he just don't carry the card for political expediency. i didn't make him a communist, i would suspect his mother did. i have merely expounded on his proclivities. as from what you have written in the past, i assume you also have some communist proclivities, so i can at least understand your titillation with his election. as i personally believe in the u.s. constitution, private property, the rule of law, individual freedom, and equal protection under said rule of law, i'm not exactly excited myself that 53% of voters voted in a man that is at war with most of the things i listed above for most of his live. but, anywho....


Posted by shakethevine on 05-28-2010 12:34 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by CWS
Mr. Harter, some of us Americans have yet to sell out all of our values and morals. If you support this man in any way shape or form you are doing just that. I feel sorry for those of you that can't see through this fake. One day we will all stand before God and give an account as to the decisions we made. Weather you believe in God or not the day is coming, will you be able to stand in front of God look him in the eye and say yes I wanted an abortionist and a supporter of same sex marriage in office to rule over me?

Don't you people get it? Obama wants to be youre ruler, he doesn't want you to have any say in anything. He wants it his way and his way only. Let me tell you something, It's GODS' WAY and no other way. Keep on supporting him and slowly watch this great country continue to crumble.



So......."Obama wants to be your ruler, he doesn't want you to have any say in anything".

Aboration and same sex marriage.....which at present time is still freedom of choice or giving you the right to SAY or DO what you want in life.

So if Obama takes this choice away from you, then your statement will be correct "he doesn't want you to have any say in anything".

Sounds like a little hypercritical thinking on your part CWS.

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Posted by Traxx Addict on 05-28-2010 01:53 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by shakethevine
So......."Obama wants to be your ruler, he doesn't want you to have any say in anything".

Aboration and same sex marriage.....which at present time is still freedom of choice or giving you the right to SAY or DO what you want in life.

So if Obama takes this choice away from you, then your statement will be correct "he doesn't want you to have any say in anything".

Sounds like a little hypercritical thinking on your part CWS.



Weak argument.

Obama is a PROGRESSIVE..he has followed a long line of radical progressives. Remember..it was a PROGRESSIVE President, that TWICE in our history, imprisoned Americans based on their race during a time of war.

If you actually believe Obama believes in "freedom", you are sadly mistaken. He believes in freedom to a point....Then the Govt steps in.

If Obama's past associations and his own books and words do not open your eyes nothing will. Ignorance is bliss, and it appears you are very "blissful".

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Posted by shakethevine on 05-28-2010 02:16 AM:

quote:
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Weak argument.

Obama is a PROGRESSIVE..he has followed a long line of radical progressives. Remember..it was a PROGRESSIVE President, that TWICE in our history, imprisoned Americans based on their race during a time of war.

If you actually believe Obama believes in "freedom", you are sadly mistaken. He believes in freedom to a point....Then the Govt steps in.

If Obama's past associations and his own books and words do not open your eyes nothing will. Ignorance is bliss, and it appears you are very "blissful".



Your exactly right Traxx...we do get freedom to a point, and then we are goverment controlled. As it should be! Could you imagine if the goverment, local officals etc. said "screw it...the country is yours people, have fun!" 20.00 gallon gas, vigilante groups, you name it.....it would be complete chaos....

Sorry, but I will take a controlled over anarchy any day.

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Posted by intellectualist on 05-28-2010 03:03 AM:

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quote:
Originally posted by shakethevine
So......."Obama wants to be your ruler, he doesn't want you to have any say in anything".

Aboration and same sex marriage.....which at present time is still freedom of choice or giving you the right to SAY or DO what you want in life.

So if Obama takes this choice away from you, then your statement will be correct "he doesn't want you to have any say in anything".

Sounds like a little hypercritical thinking on your part CWS.



This is one place you are sorely missing the point. This country was founded on moral, christian principles whether you like it or not. It does not matter if you are agnostic, atheist, muslim, or whatever "other" religion you are associated with, the bottom line is, the country was founded on Christianity with a bible believing, Christ accepting, God fearing populas!
Why do you think this country has thrived for so long?
Why do you think this country was able to get "the bomb" before Adolph Hitler?
The things you are referring to about abortion and same sex marriage is in direct contrast to what this country was founded on and these types of things will surely ruin our country. Just wait till this administration hangs Israel out to dry and see what happens. We have already started down that road!


Posted by intellectualist on 05-28-2010 03:05 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by shakethevine
Your exactly right Traxx...we do get freedom to a point, and then we are goverment controlled. As it should be! Could you imagine if the goverment, local officals etc. said "screw it...the country is yours people, have fun!" 20.00 gallon gas, vigilante groups, you name it.....it would be complete chaos....

Sorry, but I will take a controlled over anarchy any day.



No one is saying there should not be a government. Do you even realize how much our government has grown in the last several years and how much waste is associated with that?


Posted by BRIANDELVENTHAL on 05-28-2010 03:15 AM:

leave no authority existing not responsible to the people. Wheneverany form of gov. becomes destructiveof these endslife liberty and the pursuit of happiness it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it,and to institute new goverment THOMAS JEFFERSON the time is now! brian


Posted by Traxx Addict on 05-28-2010 12:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by intellectualist
No one is saying there should not be a government. Do you even realize how much our government has grown in the last several years and how much waste is associated with that?


Apparently he doesn't. LOL!

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Posted by shakethevine on 05-28-2010 12:58 PM:

Re: .

quote:
Originally posted by intellectualist
This is one place you are sorely missing the point. This country was founded on moral, christian principles whether you like it or not. It does not matter if you are agnostic, atheist, muslim, or whatever "other" religion you are associated with, the bottom line is, the country was founded on Christianity with a bible believing, Christ accepting, God fearing populas!
Why do you think this country has thrived for so long?
Why do you think this country was able to get "the bomb" before Adolph Hitler?
The things you are referring to about abortion and same sex marriage is in direct contrast to what this country was founded on and these types of things will surely ruin our country. Just wait till this administration hangs Israel out to dry and see what happens. We have already started down that road!




I'm sorry, but two ladies in New York that want to get married don't scare me at all........What does is a handfull of guys declaring "the south shall raise again"........Really think about where will civil unrest really come from, Married ladies in New York or the people who have blinders on and guns in their hands.

and your right..the country was founded on Christian principles, but like any great foundation, people add additions all the time to their original lay-out. It's called remodeling.....and sometimes its ugly or makes no sense.

Life for me is very simple......I love as much as I can, I hate nobody or speak ill of a person, and I will help anyone! This way of life has blessed me in more ways then just money in my pocket. I have group friends that have lived the same way and they to live a good life. I truely believe when your mean, mad and ill towards others you will get the life you deserve.

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Posted by CWS on 05-28-2010 01:38 PM:

Eric, you seem to be a nice guy and you are no doubt a smooth talker but you are missing a very very important fact.

It's not that two ladies getting married scare me or anyone else! The point of the matter is IT'S WRONG! Do you really want youre children/grandchildren wondering/questioning why so and so are married and living together? I don't know about you but I have been around kids my whole life and they will pick up the first bad habbit they come across.

Do you really want that negative influence on our young people? If you do then i'm wasting my fingers. Let me ask you a very simple question... When was this country at its prime? When God was first and christian principals were the foundation of this country OR now that God has been removed from all public places and christian principals are slowly fading?


Posted by shakethevine on 05-28-2010 02:19 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by CWS
Eric, you seem to be a nice guy and you are no doubt a smooth talker but you are missing a very very important fact.

It's not that two ladies getting married scare me or anyone else! The point of the matter is IT'S WRONG! Do you really want youre children/grandchildren wondering/questioning why so and so are married and living together? I don't know about you but I have been around kids my whole life and they will pick up the first bad habbit they come across.

Do you really want that negative influence on our young people? If you do then i'm wasting my fingers. Let me ask you a very simple question... When was this country at its prime? When God was first and christian principals were the foundation of this country OR now that God has been removed from all public places and christian principals are slowly fading?




Right or Wrong is not for me to judge......I will raise my two boys to understand the meaning and/or value of marriage and having children of their own......but they will understand that we have no right to think ill thoughts of anybody or their happiness....happy people create happy people, bitter/mean people surround themselves with the same.

Think......have you ever said to anyone around you something negative about somebody? "look at those two ladies holding hands, that is so wrong and their going to hell." Now if the young person or anybody takes that one step further the next time they see it by throwing a bottle or stone at that very same couple, then so on and so on.....it creates a world of hate, and if the man upstairs is watching...I'm sure he is not thrilled with the way we are treating one another, and sure there might be a day of reckoning for the married ladies, but there will also be one for the haters.

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Posted by CWS on 05-28-2010 02:27 PM:

Ask yourself why "most" homosexual couples hide it?

I will tell you why... It's because they know in their heart it's wrong. Many things factor into homosexuality. The individual may have been abused/sexualy molested. A number of things factor into it. Am I judging them based on there sexuality? NO they are doing that on there own.

This thread has gotten off topic and I am sorry for that. Back to the point OBAMA stinks!!!!


Posted by shakethevine on 05-28-2010 02:41 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by CWS
Ask yourself why "most" homosexual couples hide it?

I will tell you why... It's because they know in their heart it's wrong. Many things factor into homosexuality. The individual may have been abused/sexualy molested. A number of things factor into it. Am I judging them based on there sexuality? NO they are doing that on there own.

This thread has gotten off topic and I am sorry for that. Back to the point OBAMA stinks!!!!



I think most hide it for fear of the thrown bottle.....


Its been fun debating with you and the others.......Have great day!!!

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