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Posted by GA DAWG on 08-13-2009 11:07 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bluetics

quote:
Originally posted by TreeTex
Yes. That's who i mean. Harry already has sender qualified for the world hunt. I will be the first to admit that if ALL that mattered to me was to win the hunts then yes, I'd be huniting a walker dog. However, that is not ALL that matters to me. That's just what i think.
I dont understand..All that matters to me is treeing coons and if these blues are so good at it why would you not hunt one of those in the hunts? I hunt the same dog for pleasure that I hunt in the hunts and so does most around here...

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Posted by coondog116 on 08-13-2009 11:27 PM:

coondogs

I saw a youth at Autumn Oaks last year . He was walking around looking at coon dogs. He was around 14. He told a group of us that he wanted to find a dog and start hunting. So one man in the group ask him what kind of dogwas he looking for. His reply was and i quote ( I DON'T WONT NO LEPORD HOUND THEY HUNT TO CLOSE, I DON'T WONT NO PLOTT THEY ARE MEAN, I DON'T WANT NO BLUETICK THEY TRAIL TO MUCH, I DON'T WONT NO BLACK AND TAN THEY PACK TO MUCH, I DON'T WONT NO RED BONE THEY CANT TREE, AND I SURE DON'T WONT KNOW SLICK TREEING WALKER DOG !!!!!!! ) We all laughed very hard


Posted by calblu on 08-13-2009 11:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Chobbsrdbnes
Its very simple. All you have to do is look in the state race standings for every state in the country. Please tell me how many blue dogs do you see? Youre lucky to see 1 in the top 20 per state and all you claim theres so many good ones well where are they all hiding?


Where are these state race standings? I had no idea we had any CA dogs on any kind of state race list. Link please, I gotta see that.


Posted by Lowell Lynn on 08-14-2009 12:29 AM:

BRAD, WHAT BLUE LINE ARE YOU LOOKING INTO WORKING WITH? I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT TRYING A NEW COLOR MYSELF JUST TO SEE IF I AM MISSING ANYTHING. I WAS NOT IGNORING YOU ON THE OTHER SITE. SOMETHING WENT STRANGE WITH THE MESSAGE BOARD. I WAS GOING TO TELL YOU TO NOT GIVE UP YOUR PAINT JOB TO PROOF READ TYPEING ERRORS. I HAVE READ SOME OF YOUR POST AND HAD A CHUCKLE AS WELL. I JUST DIDNT POINT IT OUT. I DO HAVE A COUPLE DOGS BOOKED TO HUNT AND A FEW MAYBE'S FOR LATE SEPT. IF YOU NEED SOMETHING HUNTED LET ME KNOW.

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Posted by john Duemmer on 08-14-2009 12:48 AM:

Some of these devoted walker guys either cant or wont understand why anyone would want anything but a walker because they are winners and i wont argue that they are the very best overall comp. dogs. I drew out against a little walker female a few weeks ago that absolutley smoked every dog in the cast, she was fast, quick on both ends and had the meat every time she treed. If she was mine i would probably have to shoot her the first night in the woods. WHY YOU ASK? because she yapped like a house dog from the minute she came out of the box until she went back in the box and you could stil hear the yapping as the guy drove away from the clubhouse with his trophy. I'll keep feeding my bluetick.


Posted by Lowell Lynn on 08-14-2009 01:09 AM:

I DONT LIKE A YAPPING,LOOSE MOUTH DOG IN ANY COLOR.

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Posted by Chiggers on 08-14-2009 01:17 AM:

Re: Question For All You Blue Dog Men

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Originally posted by Bradley E. Hall
It seems to me that UKC is very heavy with Bluetick people, sorta of impressed reading how many hunt blueticks and how good they are. I understand and correct me if I am wrong but there has never been a bluetick to win the UKC world hunt, is that correct? Another thought that I have is there are very few blueticks in the PKC state and national race, can anyone explain that? And my third question is what makes Bluetick fans so partial to the blue dogs over the other dogs when Walkers are in the winners circle all the time, especially in PKC?? Now I have been coon hunting for 30 years and the best dog I have ever been in the woods with was ALL-NITE UNDERTAKER of Jerry Spurocks. The dog was incredible, he would get off on his own and tree and there would be a coon there, but this is the only bluetick that I claimed was a walker in bluetick cloths, even Jerry himself said that he has seen very few good blueticks that Taker was an exception. What are your thoughts on my thoughts, this is a serious inquiry for I am gettin a Bluetick at Autumn Oaks!!
I like Blueticks better because of there mouths, temperament and sense around the house, most don't stand on the end of the chain and bark day and night, but I have owned and hunted with some Nice walkers.

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Posted by heckler on 08-14-2009 01:21 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by calblu
Where are these state race standings? I had no idea we had any CA dogs on any kind of state race list. Link please, I gotta see that.
http://prohound.com/asp/standings/stats.asp?point=state

I didn't see California on the list.


Posted by turman on 08-14-2009 01:31 AM:

It`s listed as WS because it includes all the western states, and the leading dog is a B&t.

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Posted by calblu on 08-14-2009 02:12 AM:

Thanks! I thought maybe I was missing something new that UKC was doing, but no......we don't have PKC hunts in CA.


Posted by Bradley E. Hall on 08-14-2009 02:24 AM:

Oh yeah, I have my faults in spelling to, especially when I get excited and try to type faster than my hands wants to go, I just figure you would get a chuckle out of that Lowell. I had some guy from around Kokomo area named James, Jim or Jimmy call asking about references, he was wanting a dog hunted. I did not get his last name. I got a bluetick that will be about 2 months old coming from Ron Taylors Son dog and a grand nite female.


Posted by Lowell Lynn on 08-14-2009 02:42 AM:

SEE WHAT I MEAN? YOU WROTE, "Oh yeah, I have my faults in spelling to". SHOULD BE, "TOO", INSTAED OF "TO". WE ARE JUST HAVING FUN PEOPLE. SEEMS LIKE BRAD AND I LIKE TO PICK ON EACH OTHER. WE HAVE HAD SOME FUN THOUGH.

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Posted by TreeTex on 08-14-2009 07:41 AM:

this here is one bluetick that if he is anything like he used to be is one TOUGH dog. I hunted with him several nights from the time he was 9 months until around 3 or 4 years old. He is in the top 5 dogs I have ever hunted with in my life and that's ALL BREEDS.


Posted by Rowdy on 08-14-2009 01:23 PM:

Hey blue dog folks, don't despair, at least you are not hunting plotts! Talk about a tough row to hoe!

As far as Walker guys hunitng I am glad they don't want to hunt plotts. You ought to be gald they don't want your blue tick either. I have been in this game for a while, been on some major final casts as judge, guide spectator etc, and overall I don't care for the style of walker that is being bred and campaigned. Not saying they can't get the job done, it's just that I don't care for the way they get there. If walker men are happy with walker dogs, good for them. I hope they keep breeding and hunting them the way They want and I'll hunt and breed plotts they way I want.

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Posted by Chobbsrdbnes on 08-14-2009 01:42 PM:

So now im getting some admits to you blue dog men having hunted against tough walker dogs but now its not that they are oversized slick treeing mee too dogs now its their general behavior you all dont like and their mouth? Unbelievable No bud i dont hunt redbones i owned 10 of them and NONE were worth a plug nickel so i switched to walkers and love all 3 of them. And they are the calmest well mannered dogs. Oh and their mouths are bawl on track chop on tree.


Posted by Bradley E. Hall on 08-14-2009 01:54 PM:

Let me say it in this manner. Mules can do a good job on the farm just like a thorough bred horse could, but if you want to win the race would you use the mule? Sometimes the walkers look like a mule, I guess thats why alot of them are culled. And then you have them blueticks, plott and redbones that looks like a thorough bred. I am a witness to blueticks doing a great job. The best coon dog my dad said he ever seen and has not seen nothing to compare to it since was a redbone foxhound he brought from the south eastern hills of KY and broke it off fox and started treeing coons with him. His name was old Red and to this day says he was the best!


Posted by GA DAWG on 08-14-2009 05:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by TreeTex
this here is one bluetick that if he is anything like he used to be is one TOUGH dog. I hunted with him several nights from the time he was 9 months until around 3 or 4 years old. He is in the top 5 dogs I have ever hunted with in my life and that's ALL BREEDS.


Well,he certainly was not your typical bluetick hound..Thats a fact!!

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Posted by Solid-Northern on 08-14-2009 09:58 PM:

Re: Re: Question For All You Blue Dog Men

quote:
Originally posted by Solid-Northern
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bradley E. Hall
[B]It seems to me that UKC is very heavy with Bluetick people, sorta of impressed reading how many hunt blueticks and how good they are. I understand and correct me if I am wrong but there has never been a bluetick to win the UKC world hunt, is that correct? Another thought that I have is there are very few blueticks in the PKC state and national race, can anyone explain that? And my third question is what makes Bluetick fans so partial to the blue dogs over the other dogs when Walkers are in the winners circle all the time, especially in PKC??

ANOTHER REASON I HUNT BLUETICKS !



Posted by truebluefordman on 08-14-2009 10:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Chobbsrdbnes
So now im getting some admits to you blue dog men having hunted against tough walker dogs but now its not that they are oversized slick treeing mee too dogs now its their general behavior you all dont like and their mouth? Unbelievable No bud i dont hunt redbones i owned 10 of them and NONE were worth a plug nickel so i switched to walkers and love all 3 of them. And they are the calmest well mannered dogs. Oh and their mouths are bawl on track chop on tree.
90 % of walkers slick tree just facts of life there is a big diff in a comp dog and there is pleasure dog. if you got a dog you want to show off bring him down and we can cast it with my blue dog or we can go dump for dump so now shut up or put up i have heard all the stupied come out of your mouth i care to read.. stay true go blue.

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Posted by GA DAWG on 08-14-2009 11:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by truebluefordman
90 % of walkers slick tree just facts of life there is a big diff in a comp dog and there is pleasure dog. if you got a dog you want to show off bring him down and we can cast it with my blue dog or we can go dump for dump so now shut up or put up i have heard all the stupied come out of your mouth i care to read.. stay true go blue.
You think them blues you have will hunt deep enough to tree a north ga coon? I'm just wondering! Most want and thats just the FACTS OF LIFE also

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Posted by Todd24 on 08-14-2009 11:46 PM:

I have balck & tans and just like blue dogs, they just dont get the job done fast enough. I very partial to those black dogs, but their just not a walker. I ve seen a couple blue dogs that I would put on a chain and feed.

They like to run to much, no tree power.

Dont get mad you guys asked for those opions!!!!!!!!!!

Walkers may tree slick but whoop their _ss and send them on, they 'll have the coon next time. how many blue dogs can you whoop off a tree and have them tree again?

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Posted by TJH on 08-14-2009 11:53 PM:

90 % of walkers slick tree just facts of life there is a big diff in a comp dog and there is pleasure dog. if you got a dog you want to show off bring him down and we can cast it with my blue dog or we can go dump for dump so now shut up or put up i have heard all the stupied come out of your mouth i care to read.. stay true go blue.

You know what this statment is? PURE IGNORANCE a statment like this one shows how much hunting you have done. Let me tell you a fact of life there is no difference in slick trees in a competition opposed to slick trees pleasure hunting!!!!!!!!! What a crock

Oh except you have 3 other guys that will minus you in a heartbeat if youre tree even lols slick one bit. Im guessing you have been beat by walkers so much youre sick to youre stomach OR maybe its the fact that youve hunted with maybe 1 or 2 of them and they were no good so you assumed the whole breed was pathetic. You want my number????? Come here to Ohio a night or two and you better bring youre money with you and a few tissues. Its pure ignorance when someone makes a statment like you did!!!! I can say i have only hunted with very few good bluetics but i can say that because ive hunted with so many of them. Bluetics may be good in the south where coon are hard to tree but around here they are a joke. They backtrack and cant get tracks straight because theres so many coon they trail and trail and trail and you walk to so many den trees with them.


Posted by Todd24 on 08-15-2009 12:05 AM:

Where do you think bohooing came from. Blue dogs running track and no trees. LOL

They suck and you guys no it.

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Posted by glynnsdawgs63 on 08-15-2009 12:40 AM:

I hunt Bluetick dogs because I like them.My old Smokey River dogs are fast on track tree hard and have a loud mouth.
I don't talk bad about nobody's hounds because you feed what you like and I feed what I like.
I don't hunt in the hunts because I am hard of hearing but I love to coon hunt.I have seen Bluetick dogs trail and tree a coon that a reject fox dog can't even smell.

SO YOU FEED YOUR WALKERS AND I"LL FEED MY BLUETICKS,I WILL NEVER SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT ANYBODY"S DOG REGARDLESS OF HOW GOOD OR BAD THE DOG IS>

GLYNN HOLMES


Posted by jculler8 on 08-15-2009 12:46 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by truebluefordman
90 % of walkers slick tree just facts of life there is a big diff in a comp dog and there is pleasure dog. if you got a dog you want to show off bring him down and we can cast it with my blue dog or we can go dump for dump so now shut up or put up i have heard all the stupied come out of your mouth i care to read.. stay true go blue.



FACTS: 2009 BBCHA SPRING HUNT ASHLAND OHIO.

I hunted in a NiteCH cast at that hunt with my WALKER dog. My cast had 2 TRUE BLUE dogs and 2 WALKER dogs.

Facts are... the 1st drop the 2 TRUE BLUE dogs were fighting over a SLICK tree while my WALKER dog treed a coon BY HERSELF. She did that 3 other times that night if I remember correctly while TRUE BLUE combined for 4 or 5 slick trees.

If you want the facts go check out the results. Walker dogs and english mopped up at a BLUETICK HUNT! LOL

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