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Posted by MillsEnglish on 12-08-2008 08:30 PM:

I honestly dont know how anyone could make a comparison here. But I will put it like this would you do better fishing in a pond with 500 fish or a pond with 100 fish? I dont know what pond your fishing but im fishing the one thats got 500.

Now, a coondog is a coondog and will perform anywhere. I agree with that. But saying you will tree as many coon in thin coon as you would in thick is just talking out the side of your mouth. If you move south somewhere from thick coon and you see no difference then you are "still" in thick coon. Anyone in thick coon is invited to come down and take a hunt where I live and you can see for yourself the difference. I have hunted north, south, west and east and I will GUARANTEE you will see a difference here.

Posted by rocky tanner on 12-08-2008 08:37 PM:

I've hunted in Alabama once, Mississippi twice, South Carolina several times, Arkansas twice, Missouri twice, Illinois once, Kentucky 3 or 4 times, Virginia once, Tennessee several times, Florida near Arcadia once and North Florida once, and GA all my life from Jefferson GA to Valdosta and almost every point in between. The best and the worst hunting I've ever been on were in Tennessee best near Memphis close to Stanton and Covington TN and the Worst being near Rogersville. Straight up and down. Next to worse would be in Florida near Arcadia in Orange Groves My dogs wouldn't stay in Orange groves kept finding Cypress Bottoms with Briers the size of Swords. Remember in Va shot out a bout a 24 lb. coon and all of the ones from GA took off running thought we'd shot a bear. I've bought dogs from the North that looked good and Bad down here also carried mine both North and South and they've never embarrassed me but they've always looked better at Home go figure???

Posted by harper english on 12-08-2008 09:28 PM:

my dog has won in the hunts from south ga to northern in. in all types of weather hot and dry or cold and wet makes no difference
by the way he came from the north to the mountains of north ga when i bought him started treeing coons right away but he has the heart and drive to sink off in the country and find something

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Posted by rance56 on 12-08-2008 09:34 PM:

i think some are confusing tough weather conditions with tough hunting conditions. the snow isnt there most of the time of the year.

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Posted by nate m on 12-08-2008 10:55 PM:

snow from october till may. thats more than half the year. sow its not just weather. its where i hunt.

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Posted by harper english on 12-08-2008 11:38 PM:

i would say that the south its harder to get on coon year round but those of you who hunt up north this time of year are alot tougher than i am but from march til november i love hunting in the north

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Posted by Richard Nethery on 12-09-2008 01:11 AM:

Re: hey

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Originally posted by Ky Cooner Wayne
how many hounds do you guys lose to those gators and posin snakes down their just wondering , thanks wayne

Hey Wayne, I have never lost one to a Gator, but have had a couple of them Snake bit, There is not much a Vet can do for a Snakebite, My Hound got bit on the back leg by a very large Venomous Snake a Couple of years ago while hunting, the Fang Marks were about a Half an inch apart. The leg turned black around the bite, I took her to the vet, he told me to just let her rest, she laid around for two days, and got up on the third day.
Within a week she was hunting again.

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Posted by NEOKHUNTER on 12-09-2008 03:23 AM:

Snakes

I had a English female get bitten by a rattler while she was in the yard. Had her lose playin with the lil cousins. Rattler came in the yard and while we were gettin the kids on the porch and gettin the shovel, she was trying to keep it away from the porch where the kids were and ended up gettin bit. She was out for almost a month, her snout was swelled up she could barely eat. i almost put her down. It was a good think I didnt. A year later she up and died on me, vet said it was tick fever.

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Posted by on 12-09-2008 05:59 AM:

hello everyone

i live in oklahoma and hunt at least 5 nites a week. there are good nites and bad. last winter i went up to maine and hunted a two nite hunt at my brothers club. i went a few days early so my dog could ajust to the weather and conditions. i had a great time, treed several coon, boy are they big!!! i think if you have a coondog you can hunt anywhere anytime and tree coons. i will say this though, if you don't have a dog with a great nose that can tree lots of lay ups, your in a world of hurt up in maine in the winter. those coon just stay layed up feeding on different berries and things. hey i had to ajust to that weather too!!! it gets cold up there. 6 hours north of the maine state line, you could see canada just across the river. different strokes for different folks.

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Posted by arizonabeagle on 12-09-2008 06:30 AM:

i like how no one talks about comming out west haha
you guys got HILLS in ten. and wv (the mountain state i do believe) compared to the country we climb through
rough stuff out here, out west period..bring a flatwoods dog from indiana, or a dog that runs in swamps from florida, or a bear dog from tennessee, i bet 8 outta 10 dogs couldnt hack it out here
just my opion though, not trying to say we the roughest houndsmen out there or anything...

Posted by coon dawg on 12-09-2008 10:53 AM:

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quote:
Originally posted by arizonabeagle
i like how no one talks about comming out west haha
you guys got HILLS in ten. and wv (the mountain state i do believe) compared to the country we climb through
rough stuff out here, out west period..bring a flatwoods dog from indiana, or a dog that runs in swamps from florida, or a bear dog from tennessee, i bet 8 outta 10 dogs couldnt hack it out here
just my opion though, not trying to say we the roughest houndsmen out there or anything...

..........coon hunted in eastern Colorado when I was in college at Fort Collins.............it wasn't so bad.................have hunted everywhere from Maine to Florida to Minnestoa and Colorado..............if this thread is about TOUGH hunting conditions............NO WHERE touches that Pocosin stuff in Eastern North Carolina...it's brutal on dog AND hunter..........you northen hunters imagine this...........your dog is treed about 200 yards from you........it takes an hour to get to him.........with a machete....and the cottonmouths are EVERYWHERE for about 9 months a year..........hunted alot in Ohio, Indiana, and Pennsylvania............it NEVER took me an hour to get to a dog 200 yards away..happens alot in Dare county NC............

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Posted by MillsEnglish on 12-09-2008 04:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by arizonabeagle
i like how no one talks about comming out west haha
you guys got HILLS in ten. and wv (the mountain state i do believe) compared to the country we climb through
rough stuff out here, out west period..bring a flatwoods dog from indiana, or a dog that runs in swamps from florida, or a bear dog from tennessee, i bet 8 outta 10 dogs couldnt hack it out here
just my opion though, not trying to say we the roughest houndsmen out there or anything...

I dont know if my dog could hack it or not but ill flat tell you I couldnt handle mountains any bigger than im hunting now. Im in the edge of the appalachian "hills"...and their big enough for me. We have straight up climbing and rock cliffs that can be 200 foot to the bottom but i try to stay away from cliffs I know a few good dogs go over them and fall to a certain death. A variety of snakes poisonous and non. Swamps that are unreal as well...no gators though. Oh yeah cant forget the saw briar thickets on some mountains that seem to go all the way to the top...paired with tree tops from logging make it even more fun. Really sucks when you come off on the wrong side on accident and get to walk 10 miles to get back to the truck yay! But I have seen places a lot rougher than here just driving around but this is plenty rough for me.

Posted by rance56 on 12-09-2008 04:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by nate m
snow from october till may. thats more than half the year. sow its not just weather. its where i hunt.

and snow is on the ground all that time?

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Posted by z sinnwell on 12-09-2008 07:39 PM:

Rance,
I think what he means is that if his dog can tree coon when its zero degrees out, 2 foot of snow, and the wind blowin it is still a coon dog in the north or south. Every dog that I have seen tree coon in those weather conditions I would not be afraid to hunt in the south. To me tough hunting is not whether or not there are alot of coons, its all the conditions like terrain and weather. A good coon dog is going to find a coon somewhere whether it is off a corn field in the north or if he has to go deep in a hollar in the south. Granted it is easy for dogs to tree coons up here during the summer and fall because there are generally more of them, but those dogs that can tree coon in the dead of winter are real coon dogs by anyones standards.

Posted by rance56 on 12-09-2008 08:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by z sinnwell
Rance,
I think what he means is that if his dog can tree coon when its zero degrees out, 2 foot of snow, and the wind blowin it is still a coon dog in the north or south. Every dog that I have seen tree coon in those weather conditions I would not be afraid to hunt in the south. To me tough hunting is not whether or not there are alot of coons, its all the conditions like terrain and weather. A good coon dog is going to find a coon somewhere whether it is off a corn field in the north or if he has to go deep in a hollar in the south. Granted it is easy for dogs to tree coons up here during the summer and fall because there are generally more of them, but those dogs that can tree coon in the dead of winter are real coon dogs by anyones standards.

my point was that anywhere in the country you take a dog hunting in the harshest of conditions that area has to offer its going to be tough, but the harshest of conditions are not the norm and are not usually what we spend the majority of our hunting time in, some probally avoid it all together and have very easy huting in doing so.

on the other hand, some parts of the country, regardless of the time of year have very hard hunting, even in ideal conditions.

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Posted by rance56 on 12-09-2008 08:07 PM:

fwiw, i understand there are coondogs all over the country and good football is also played outside of the SEC.

i think a good coondog is going to be a good coondog regardless as long as it has the drive-thats the key imo.

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Posted by NEOKHUNTER on 12-09-2008 09:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by arizonabeagle
i like how no one talks about comming out west haha
you guys got HILLS in ten. and wv (the mountain state i do believe) compared to the country we climb through
rough stuff out here, out west period..bring a flatwoods dog from indiana, or a dog that runs in swamps from florida, or a bear dog from tennessee, i bet 8 outta 10 dogs couldnt hack it out here
just my opion though, not trying to say we the roughest houndsmen out there or anything...

Ive hunted all over Arizona from Flagstaff down to casa Grande. I took an Oklahoma dog over there and well he didnt have a bit of trouble. The walking was a little rough but nothing worse than what Ive hunted in here in Oklahoma. Down in Casa grande it was mesquite trees and long tracks. Up around Flagstaff it was short tracks but it was cold and the moutains are steep. Yet at the same time in Oklahoma you get over in the Cooksen or Ozark hills it was no different. So Id say Arizona was one of the easier states Ive hunted. The toughest so far has by far been Tenn. That was the roughest walking the hardest runnin coons and those coons out there are not scared to flat get in a bunch of rocks and dissapear.

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Posted by harper english on 12-09-2008 09:48 PM:

i had a couple guys from ohio come down last year for a pleasure hunt there dogs done fine but the guys said if they had to hunt where i do they would take up sewing

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Posted by NEOKHUNTER on 12-10-2008 05:55 AM:

Sewing

hahahahahahahah I heard that exact phrase said about Eufaula, Oklahoma. The gullies, swamps, lake, creeks, sloughs, and plowed ass fields along the bottom of these straight up bluffs/hills make for one long hard night that well what I was told takes a crazy man to hunt. lol Guess Im just to crazy to stop.,..lol

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Posted by Blue Style on 12-10-2008 05:59 AM:

eufaula

I spent a short week hunting around eufaula and the james collins wildlife management area, huge rough huntin area, it is some hard huntin, but the roughest I have personally seen was louisiana for just plain thick and dang near impossible to get through those cutovers and swamps...

Posted by NEOKHUNTER on 12-10-2008 09:59 PM:

Cimarron River

Hows the huntin down are you guys Blue Style

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Posted by Blue Style on 12-10-2008 11:04 PM:

neok

the huntin is alright, kinda dry...normally get under a coon, but it may take a half hour or better at times....if you ever get down this way lets go...

Posted by Clay on 12-10-2008 11:32 PM:

Re: coons

quote:
Originally posted by aaron moorehead
try north ga we have hardly any coons.

Yeah buddy a good dog down here in N. Ga. can get it done any where. No doubt.

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