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Posted by smokey7 on 11-19-2008 04:16 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by perry co cooner
This entire post is non-sense. I have no doubt how my dog looks in either thick coon or thin coon. During the warmer months there are plenty of coon and finding a track to strike is no problem what so ever and after December it starts getting tougher and sometimes we might only find one track bc it's just too cold and there are very few coons out. My dog hunts as far as it takes to strike a track and she strikes them as she comes to them therefore I know what she does in thick and thin coons. Smokey7 do you know how your dog does in thick coons? It seems the guys that live in areas with extremely thin coon population area are very proud of this fact but the truth is there isn't a one of them that wouldn't LOVE to have better coon populations.

Of course I wished we had a few more coons. Thin coons and no feeders will make a tired old man out of you quick. LOL

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Posted by Barry Brown on 11-19-2008 04:34 PM:

I would like to see them hold the world hunt in Michigan or Ind. in late dec. with no leaves and snow. I dont think they will ever do this because the guys from the south will not come up this time of year because of the weather. The south and the north both have thier tuff times but you go to michigan and hunt in the winter and you will see what tuff is. Michigan gets hot and muggy in the summer also so we get it from one end to the other as far as weather goes. I have hunted north ga. I can tell you it is not like michigan in the winter. I had a friend from north ga. that came up and hunted and he could not wait to get back to north ga.

Posted by Stokes08 on 11-19-2008 04:39 PM:

dont get me wrong up north yall have some great dogs but i want to see some of them dogs come through the swamps like our dogs do only other time we see is the winter classic and the only time i even hunt on a feeder is when i have a puppy

Posted by on 11-19-2008 04:44 PM:

Did someone tell you there are no swamps up north?

Posted by smokey7 on 11-19-2008 04:56 PM:

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Originally posted by JiM
Did someone tell you there are no swamps up north?

Ya yall got swamps but there different. There easy. shallow. No thick briars in there. Plus that the water's different. Our's is black and thick. You guy's water is clear and easy to wade through. The mud don't suck you down the way our's does either. The air quality is better up there too. We got smog and yall got fresh air. It's also widely believed among us southerners that coons from up north are too fat to run.

Posted by Clay Lautzenhiser on 11-19-2008 05:06 PM:

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Originally posted by JiM
Did someone tell you there are no swamps up north?

I know there are swamps up there. THEY DON'T COMPARE TO OURS DOWN HERE! When I was hunting in Ohio, this summer, a man took me to an area and told me to cut loose, so I did. Gunner went in there and struck, then treed, right in the middle. The man looked at me and said some curse words. When I inquired as to why he was cussing, he informed me that this was the worst swamp around and he did it as a joke. Well I told him it was no joke and lets go to the dog. To make a long story short he cursed, fell, sunk...all the way in and out. I told him that was an easy swamp and probably nicer than anything I hunted down here.
Like Mark Hauck posted I have lived AND HUNTED in OH,TN,NC,SC,FL,AZ,WV,CA. I have hunted in IN,IL,IA,NY,MI,PA,AL,GA,WI,KY and probably a few more. THE HUNTING I AM HUNTING HERE IN FLORIDA IS THE TOUGHEST I HAVE EVER HUNTED BAR NONE!

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Posted by SoSh on 11-19-2008 05:12 PM:

Re: Thick Coon / Thin Coon

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Originally posted by Vic Stoll
God forbid there is a hound out there that can shine like a silver dollar in thick coon or thin coon. I don't think they are out there by the bunches, but I do think there are a few that exist. As many folks have already pointed out on this post, most any dog will need an adjustment period when cast in different terrain than what they are used to. I seem to remember dogs from the north winning some world hunts held in the south, and dogs from the south winning some world hunts held in the north. Go figure! I'm still looking for one of those 95% accurate ones! LOL

your right vic. thats why i believe the purina race is the toughest to win of all comp. events. if a man has a dog that can win in my back yard in mo. one weekend, drive 500 miles,win in your back yard, drive 800 miles win in ga. the next weekend, then that man has a coon dog. not many do.

Posted by Maniac on 11-19-2008 05:45 PM:

Re: Re: Thick Coon / Thin Coon

quote:
Originally posted by SoSh
your right vic. thats why i believe the purina race is the toughest to win of all comp. events. if a man has a dog that can win in my back yard in mo. one weekend, drive 500 miles,win in your back yard, drive 800 miles win in ga. the next weekend, then that man has a coon dog. not many do.

doesnt that take money? lol

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Posted by Barry Brown on 11-19-2008 08:04 PM:

The swamps up here are as bad as anything you have there. We have them that all you can do is swim. I know of a bunch that go for miles and miles. I have been to places that people say are ruff but are not a drop in the bucket to what we have in michigan. I have had to get a boat more than one time to get to the dogs. Till you have hunted these places up here you have no idea what it is like. I have been in your swamps down there they are tuff but no tuffer than some of them up here.

Posted by SoSh on 11-19-2008 08:16 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Thick Coon / Thin Coon

quote:
Originally posted by Maniac
doesnt that take money? lol

maniac, do you know of anything that doesn't cost money? lol

Posted by Clay Lautzenhiser on 11-19-2008 09:15 PM:

You know it is real easy for all of you to sit on this computer and compare places, dogs, climate... I spend three months this summer and close to $20,000 traveling the country and hunting. I have seen and hunted most of the areas you are all talking about. Not to mention the years I spend in the USMC traveling and hunting this country. I have yet to see any takers on my offers to come here and hunt. You make me the same offer and see how fast Gunner and I show up to hunt your territory! Ask Jay Hyde how fast I will accept an offer .
How about we quit agruing about it and get to hunting. The World Hunt will never come to the deep south out of FEAR! Everyone is afraid of the gators, snakes, and unknown of Florida.
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Posted by smokey7 on 11-19-2008 09:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Clay Lautzenhiser
You know it is real easy for all of you to sit on this computer and compare places, dogs, climate... I spend three months this summer and close to $20,000 traveling the country and hunting. I have seen and hunted most of the areas you are all talking about. Not to mention the years I spend in the USMC traveling and hunting this country. I have yet to see any takers on my offers to come here and hunt. You make me the same offer and see how fast Gunner and I show up to hunt your territory! Ask Jay Hyde how fast I will accept an offer .
How about we quit agruing about it and get to hunting. The World Hunt will never come to the deep south out of FEAR! Everyone is afraid of the gators, snakes, and unknown of Florida.
THE END!

I don't too much like getting eat by alligators and I really don't want my dogs eat by gators either.

From what folks have told me yall lose dogs on a regular basis down there to gators. Sorry if I don't want any part of that. But I just don't.

Posted by Grant Noeske on 11-19-2008 09:53 PM:

Oh yeah, well....well, sometimes up here, in the winter, we have to hop from iceberg to iceberg and dodge polar bears all at the same time. When we have to swim between icebergs, we carry our belt lights AND leashes clamped in between our teeth, because if we drop them in the icewater swamps that are 30 feet deep, the lights stop working and the leashes freeze up and break. Also, try shooting a coon while doing the one-armed backstroke around one of them there big icebergs....all while your dog is trying to climb up on you to get away from the polar bear that's chasing him. And...and...the penquins we got up here are vicious. Gotta stay away from them, too. And...and...and......we have to climb uphill both going to the woods and coming home! Man, I tell ya, it's rough up here.

Oh yeah. My dad can beat up your dad.

Just kidding, guys. Happy Thanksgiving....one week early!

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Posted by Dan Dogs on 11-19-2008 10:06 PM:

Dat a boy grant!!!you tell um!!lol but the beer is ice cold..

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Posted by Grant Noeske on 11-19-2008 10:08 PM:

Yes, that's right. The beer is ice cold.

And when frozen, the cans are good for throwing at and repelling penquins and polar bears.

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Posted by Wheat Light on 11-19-2008 10:18 PM:

I like how the World hunts move from location to location. You all complain cause the hunt isn't in your back yard, but why isn't it? You have to ensure you have plenty of guides and judges to put on the hunt. Then you have to have lots of hunting ground. You don't want a dog getting shot or run over while on the World hunt, do you? It takes a lot of people to put on a major hunt, and the number of clubs that can are getting fewer and fewer all the time. Thats why the big breed hunts are all in the same places.

I like that it moves. East TN next year, IL last year, Middle TN 3 years ago, etc. Its been in TX and IA and everywhere all over. I'd like to see the world hunt held in Florida or New Hampshire or even the Dakotas for that matter, but I doubt it will. Not any fault of the hunters there, but there have to be the guides AND the judges. Also you have to think about who all will show up. I think UKC would be better doing a hunt in one of these due to they only have 100 dogs in the finals at that location.

Also, it doesn't matter where you live if you've got a coon dog or not. It matters MORE how you hunt, and how often you hunt. If you live in the most coon in the country, but only make one drop every three weeks, you're not going to beat a guy who lives where there aren't hardly any and win under any circumstances. The truth is, even if you hunt all night every night in any circumstances, you are still going to get beat sometimes, and you may never win the World hunt. Luck has a lot to do with it to.

Like I said, I'm all for the UKC World being in NH or FL or a million other places, but you guys need to get the hunters from your areas together to put on this hunt and talk to UKC about it. Best of luck to you. I hope it works out for states that might feel neglected up to this point.

Posted by CLJohnson on 11-19-2008 10:25 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by smokey7
Back a year or so ago when this dog of mine was in her prime i could tree coons as long as i wanted to turn her loose. Thats the truth. If you think we got the kinda coons down here that you got up there then your sadly mistaken. You set up there in michigan on your high horse and turn loose with the kinda coon population you have and don't understand what it's like down here in the REAL WORLD. Turn that dog loose and wait 30 minutes and never even hear him strike till you've climbed two ridges and went a half a mile. Then you can barely hear the dog treed in there about a mile and a half deep from that sport. Climb 6 or 7 more ridges to get to the dog. Do that a few times and that tone of yours will change fast.

i gotta agree with smokey,mountains are a real b**** to get around in,and theres no feeder buckets in them.

Posted by GA DAWG on 11-19-2008 10:25 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Maniac
JASON THIS TIME YEAR YOU ARE NOT GOING FIND A THREE ACRE PATCH PATCH WHITH 8 COON IN IT NOW . ARE SEASON HAS BEEN OPEN ABOUT TWO WEEKS. SO ANYBODY THAT THINKS IT IS EASY TO TREE COON HERE NOW PLEASE BRING YOUR BEST!! I WILL TAKE YOU HUNTING.

LMAO!!!!!!! I'll bet you whatever i can tree more up there right now than youll come here and tree..Our season has been open for over a month! I've hunted up your way..It dont even compare to here.Thats a FACT..NO WAY,NO HOW...A coon dog will tree one most anywhere but you do live in the land of milk and honey for coon hunting.

Posted by smokey7 on 11-20-2008 04:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
LMAO!!!!!!! I'll bet you whatever i can tree more up there right now than youll come here and tree..Our season has been open for over a month! I've hunted up your way..It dont even compare to here.Thats a FACT..NO WAY,NO HOW...A coon dog will tree one most anywhere but you do live in the land of milk and honey for coon hunting.

Can't you understand Ga.Dawg? Our dogs aren't any good. That's the reason we can't tree 8 single coons in 2 hours.

Posted by LARRY TYNES on 11-20-2008 04:53 AM:

jay treed 5 single with the big pup tonight in about 2 & one half hour, not bad were there ain,t no coon and with aone and half yr. old black dog. oh 28deg. with north wind. lol lol.

Posted by Cornbelt on 11-20-2008 05:56 AM:

Smokey you need to get in touch with this Sheepster guy from north Georgia that used to be on here. He said all the clubs in north Georgia are full of cheaters and mean dogs. He'll tell you why there should be no hunts other than pleasure hunts in north Georgia..... let alone have the world hunt there.

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Posted by Maniac on 11-20-2008 10:16 AM:

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Originally posted by GA DAWG
LMAO!!!!!!! I'll bet you whatever i can tree more up there right now than youll come here and tree..Our season has been open for over a month! I've hunted up your way..It dont even compare to here.Thats a FACT..NO WAY,NO HOW...A coon dog will tree one most anywhere but you do live in the land of milk and honey for coon hunting.

well you think its so easy come on up!!!

Posted by m4rcut on 11-20-2008 12:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Maniac
I CAN TELL ALL YOU COMPUTERS SOME THING. IT IS NOT EASY TO WIN A HUNT IN OTHER STATES. IT TAKES A COON DOG TO WIN. I USE TO HAVE PEOPLE COME TO MY HOUSE IN KILLS SEASON ONCE A YEAR FROM N.C. AND THEIR DOGS COULDNT EVEN TREE A COON INTILL AFTER THE FIRST WEEK. THEY WERE USET TO THE BUCKETS. AND YOU NEED TO TAKE A DOG TO DIFFERNT COUNRTY A WEEK EARLY IF YOU ARE GOING TO TRY TO WIN A HUNT. A DOG THAT HUNTEDS IN ALL KINDS OF TERRIAN WILL BEAT A DOG THAT NEVER HAS. ITS CALLED AJUST

i could bring a dog to where ever your at and if it takes him a week to tree a coon i would give him to you. i know you have ALOT ALOT easier hunting than tennessee and kentucky and this dog can tree coons in both those places every night on a consistant basis. A coon dog can tree a coon anywhere, not just in thick coons like most supposidly coon dogs,

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Posted by m4rcut on 11-20-2008 12:33 PM:

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Originally posted by Maniac
JASON THIS TIME YEAR YOU ARE NOT GOING FIND A THREE ACRE PATCH PATCH WHITH 8 COON IN IT NOW . ARE SEASON HAS BEEN OPEN ABOUT TWO WEEKS. SO ANYBODY THAT THINKS IT IS EASY TO TREE COON HERE NOW PLEASE BRING YOUR BEST!! I WILL TAKE YOU HUNTING.

your so full of crap, its not even funny.

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Posted by GA DAWG on 11-20-2008 03:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Maniac
well you think its so easy come on up!!!

I've been up there..Can you not understand that?

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