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Re: Tar

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Originally posted by Dave Richards
Cut the drama, a handler of your caliber definitely knows if their dog is operating at a high level. Just as Donnies question posed, you would have a pretty good idea if you treed x number of coons without shooting any coons out and your dog still performed or started to decline in performance. How many coons do you think the PKC guys shoot out to the dogs they are hunting hard in the hunts? Some of those dogs never get a coon shot out to them. I have had some handlers tell me that they could tell whose dogs were getting coons shot out to them because they started slacking off after a couple of trees in a hunt when no coons were shot out. A dog that quits giving it's best because it does not get coons killed is definitely NOT my kind of dog. Dave

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It makes no difference to some handlers also but to others they hunt harder and more often when they can knock coons out. Also it doesn't matter if their dog is slick treeing because they can't knock them out anyway. If they aren't shooting coons out, a circle tree is the same as a coon.

I have better luck training dogs that naturally hate a coon.



Tar

Just wondering how or why some dogs"hate" a coon and some don't and it don't seem to make much difference in the ability to tree a coon?

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Originally posted by 2ol2hunt
Just wondering how or why some dogs"hate" a coon and some don't and it don't seem to make much difference in the ability to tree a coon?

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I believe it shows that being aggressive is in the DNA more than an environmental issue.

Although we have domesticated them our hounds are animals that’s purpose in life is to pursue and kill game efficiently.


Tar

There has never been a soul walk this earth that has shot more coons than I.
But, in my present years I shoot very very very few.
To have a good dog that dog must naturally be a predator of coons.
If you hunting a predator you can save your coons.

However, if you want to shoot them go at it. I by no means have any right to tell a fellow not to after all the ones I have.

I think age slows you down on it too for some reason

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I think you got that one right, age does slow you down on killing game, I am just as happy to look at the coon and leave it for another chase than to kill the coon. Same way with other game animals, I too have killed my fair share and enjoy just hunting and watching game more than killing game these days. Dave

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Originally posted by high ridge
There has never been a soul walk this earth that has shot more coons than I.
But, in my present years I shoot very very very few.
To have a good dog that dog must naturally be a predator of coons.
If you hunting a predator you can save your coons.

However, if you want to shoot them go at it. I by no means have any right to tell a fellow not to after all the ones I have.

I think age slows you down on it too for some reason

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I enjoy reading all the replies. Maybe its me or maybe its just the line of dogs we hunt. I haven't shot a coon out since february and neither one of our dogs are leaving trees or doing anything wrong really. I was just wondering if other people had different opinions on shooting them out. We normally make 3-4 kill hunts to the delta a year and give the dogs every one they tree. However, I had an interesting conversation with a hunter at a competition hunt one night....He gives his dog a dog treat when he is pleasure hunting when they tree the coon instead of shooting the coon. Then we he gets in the comp hunts when his dog treed a coon he slipped it a treat. He told me after the hunt to his dog he had been "shooting" coons out to his dog all night in the comp hunt. Now I'm not sure if that muddles the lines and rules of encouragement but it made sense to me. Side note.... i didn't know he was slipping the dog treats until he told me after the hunt lol

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Originally posted by yadkintar
I knew if I gave enough subliminal messages sombody would give the right answer.


Tar

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Originally posted by high ridge
There has never been a soul walk this earth that has shot more coons than I.

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I am willing to bet there is not anyone that has coon hunted 50+ years and has shot less coon than I have. Might speak to why I have been looking for a coondog for over 50 years.

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Originally posted by Bruce m. Conkey
I am willing to bet there is not anyone that has coon hunted 50+ years and has shot less coon than I have. Might speak to why I have been looking for a coondog for over 50 years.

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Ain’t it funny nobody’s shooting coon buuuuuuuuut when you take guys to one of your good spots and they get to going back without you it’s not long till you can’t strike a coon there hmmmmmmm !


Tar

Tar

You need better " friends" or wise up and quit taking anyone to your best spots. Dave

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Originally posted by yadkintar
Ain’t it funny nobody’s shooting coon buuuuuuuuut when you take guys to one of your good spots and they get to going back without you it’s not long till you can’t strike a coon there hmmmmmmm !


Tar

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Originally posted by JesseJ
if you hunt government land is it really your spot? We hunt a lot of government land but I don't consider it my spots.hummmmmm!

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Tar

Why do you show them the best spots? Sounds like you are getting played, wise up and let them find the best spots. Dave

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Originally posted by yadkintar
But they wait till you show them were they are and stay on them till their gone hmmmmmmm !



Tar

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Re: Tar

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Originally posted by Dave Richards
Why do you show them the best spots? Sounds like you are getting played, wise up and let them find the best spots. Dave

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Originally posted by JesseJ
maybe Corey been going more than you have? I know me n Clay stayed at the little motel there in Marietta hunted Friday n Saturday nites n never see or hear another hound. We thought there were no COONHUNTERS live there! LOL

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Tar
I have my Oklahoma hunting license so when it cools off n season starts I'll come visit, I want to see all those honey holes! Stay safe n I'll be in touch. JesseJ