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Posted by yadkintar on 11-17-2018 01:14 PM:

You need you a good walker dog Richard make you feel young again !! You just got red dogs to fit in with the zoo boys and that way you can have those top secret meetings in the Winnie baygo.

Tarbaby

Posted by Richard Lambert on 11-17-2018 01:18 PM:

The Redbone that I have suits me just fine. He is old and slow just like me. I am the opposite of Dalton. When I hunt now, I am training my dog to take his time and be accurate; don't pay attention to but stay with the other dogs unless they are running junk; work the first track that he comes to and never pass one up; never, never run a road or trail; come in when I call or tone him even if he is treed. These are all pleasure hound traits, not comp hound traits. : p

Posted by yadkintar on 11-17-2018 01:25 PM:

Your not old just mellow! It's legal in Oklahoma now I can throw a rock to where they are gonna be growing it lol.

Tarbaby

Posted by Richard Lambert on 11-17-2018 01:32 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by yadkintar
Your not old just mellow! It's legal in Oklahoma now I can throw a rock to where they are gonna be growing it lol.
Tarbaby

I wish. No, I am just old. Too old for even that anymore. If you can throw a rock and hit it sounds like your backyard. Have you found a new way to keep your club going?

Posted by yadkintar on 11-17-2018 01:36 PM:

They rented every empty warehouse in town !! City council approved it without the home owners approval.

Tarbaby

Posted by Richard Lambert on 11-17-2018 01:40 PM:

Your town is sure going to smell funny next Fall. Y'all will all be mellow.

Posted by yadkintar on 11-17-2018 01:43 PM:

Ain't that skunk weed me and you grew up with brother !! This stuff make you spell wow backwards lol.

Tarbaby

Posted by nitehunter2004 on 11-17-2018 03:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by yadkintar
Ain't that skunk weed me and you grew up with brother !! This stuff make you spell wow backwards lol.

Tarbaby

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Posted by Dave Richards on 11-17-2018 06:11 PM:

Tim Osborne

Does it make you wallow around on the ground fighting a saw briar? Sounds familiar, huh Tar! Lol. Dave

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Posted by nitehunter2004 on 11-17-2018 07:19 PM:

Re: Tim Osborne

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Richards
Does it make you wallow around on the ground fighting a saw briar? Sounds familiar, huh Tar! Lol. Dave

No! Fighting saw briers are for real men.

Posted by Dave Richards on 11-17-2018 07:48 PM:

Tim Osborne

Don't know about that, I have fought my share of those saw briar and always get the short end of the stick. Lol. Dave

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 11-18-2018 12:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by yadkintar
Your not old just mellow! It's legal in Oklahoma now I can throw a rock to where they are gonna be growing it lol.

Tarbaby

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Posted by yadkintar on 11-18-2018 12:42 AM:

In my hood they only want it one way. And it still stinks to me .......... Almost worse than skunk I would rather smell skunk lol.

Tar

Posted by yadkinriver on 11-18-2018 12:12 PM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Redneck Mafia
[B]You ever thought about starting a business... Mr. & Mrs. Tar's Custom Jellies, Jams and Beets.

Jen I noticed you didn't mention brownies. Competition?

Posted by Kler Kry on 11-18-2018 02:25 PM:

Pleasure Hounds

If you are in search of with a extremely high level of ability then pleasure hunting is the best present method to use. Originally the competition hunts highlighted superior hounds, but the performance of most competition dogs today does not identify which dog is truly the best at treeing coon. Most competition dogs will not compete against each other and so it is impossible for owners with more than one dog in their kennel to honestly tell you which of their dogs is the best. Dogs that have been trained or bred to optimize the rules succeed in most hunts. With that said, the current competition style dog can be beat in a hunt with an outstanding dog that is a true first and first type dog because of their ability tree coon while the loner style dog has other things on their mind. What is your reason for competition or pleasure hunting? The reason for lack of attendance at events is simple. IT IS NO LONGER FUN! The culture that I've observed in recent events is similar to the hit TV shows "Survivor and Big Brother" which I don't believe have a printed set of "HONOR RULES". This is my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Ken Risley

Posted by Richard Lambert on 11-18-2018 03:16 PM:

Re: Pleasure Hounds

quote:
Originally posted by Kler Kry
......The reason for lack of attendance at events is simple. IT IS NO LONGER FUN......... Ken Risley

Oh my goodness, you may have a point there. Whatever happened to good honest competition? These days it is like going to war. Comp hunts mimic real life. They are just like politics. A political campaign these days is like an all out war. When it is over they can't shake hands and congratulate the victor. What is happening to us? Are we becoming too competitive?

Posted by John Carroll on 11-18-2018 03:53 PM:

Re: Pleasure Hounds

quote:
Originally posted by Kler Kry
If you are in search of with a extremely high level of ability then pleasure hunting is the best present method to use. Originally the competition hunts highlighted superior hounds, but the performance of most competition dogs today does not identify which dog is truly the best at treeing coon. Most competition dogs will not compete against each other and so it is impossible for owners with more than one dog in their kennel to honestly tell you which of their dogs is the best. Dogs that have been trained or bred to optimize the rules succeed in most hunts. With that said, the current competition style dog can be beat in a hunt with an outstanding dog that is a true first and first type dog because of their ability tree coon while the loner style dog has other things on their mind. What is your reason for competition or pleasure hunting? The reason for lack of attendance at events is simple. IT IS NO LONGER FUN! The culture that I've observed in recent events is similar to the hit TV shows "Survivor and Big Brother" which I don't believe have a printed set of "HONOR RULES". This is my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Ken Risley

Thank you.

Many dogs bred for the hunts don't compete against one another.

It's all about getting by themselves.

I like to know which dog can out track, out locate, and out perform the other dogs.

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Posted by Reuben on 11-18-2018 04:47 PM:

Re: Re: Pleasure Hounds

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Originally posted by John Carroll
Thank you.

I like to know which dog can out track, out locate, and out perform the other dogs.

I am thinking what you said... "SHOULD " be a top competition coon hound...

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Posted by DL NH on 11-18-2018 07:07 PM:

Kler Kry and Reuben

You nailed it!

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Posted by Donnie Stevens on 11-18-2018 07:19 PM:

Re: Re: Pleasure Hounds

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Originally posted by John Carroll

I like to know which dog can out track, out locate, and out perform the other dogs.

Me too. Problem is they've found it's easier to train one to be away from the pack then it is to breed one that's faster then the pack.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 11-18-2018 08:04 PM:

When they are all on separate trees it is more about the handler.

Posted by Dave Richards on 11-18-2018 09:27 PM:

Pleasure dogs

I thought this post was about pleasure dogs, how come competition dogs keep getting mentioned. Most pleasure hunters could care less about the competition side of hunting. My hunting partner and myself usually turn one dog loose at a time, we are interested in what THAT dog can do by itself. It's easier to judge a dog hunting it by itself on that dogs ability. Now that just us, others may hunt differently and that's their choice. One thing that I can say about our dogs, is they hunt, strike and tree coons by themselves and are a pleasure to hunt. Nuff said! Dave

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Posted by DL NH on 11-18-2018 09:41 PM:

Re: Pleasure dogs

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Richards
I thought this post was about pleasure dogs, how come competition dogs keep getting mentioned. Most pleasure hunters could care less about the competition side of hunting. My hunting partner and myself usually turn one dog loose at a time, we are interested in what THAT dog can do by itself. It's easier to judge a dog hunting it by itself on that dogs ability. Now that just us, others may hunt differently and that's their choice. One thing that I can say about our dogs, is they hunt, strike and tree coons by themselves and are a pleasure to hunt. Nuff said! Dave

As I stated in the beginning of this thread, here in the area where I live, 40 years ago the dogs entered in the UKC events were first and foremost pleasure dogs. Thats not to say that they can't be today but...........

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Posted by yadkintar on 11-18-2018 09:49 PM:

I don't care what style you like but if you got a dog that trees every coon it gets within smelling distance of you can fill the freezer with hides and win your fair share of hunts that's my kind of pleasure dog.

Tar

Posted by Team Mafia 2 on 11-19-2018 10:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
There are a lot of handlers/hunters just like you that "pleasure hunt" their dogs solely to train them or get them ready for comp hunts. That is what makes it terribly hard for an older pleasure hunter to do any good in a competition hunt. So a lot of us just quit trying. Y'all are young, full of energy and way too serious. I think that I used to be like that but I can't remember.

Richard if you were Closer I’d drag you out there every night. You could set at the truck and Listen and I’d do your dog work for you!! We might even have a couple big beautiful pecan bottoms we can ride the Gator or drive the Jeep to every tree.

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