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Posted by Richard Lambert on 10-04-2017 03:55 PM:

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........Never an issue .......

Maybe not where you live.

Posted by rob thompson on 10-04-2017 04:05 PM:

Have you ever hunted here? At 720 yards they can hear me is all I'm saying. If you can hear your dog they can hear you.

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Posted by shadinc on 10-04-2017 04:18 PM:

How about, "to each his own" Some people hunt all night every night and some don't hunt at all. And there are a lot of people between those that hunt to different degrees. Age has slowed me down but I still don't want to quit.

Posted by critter on 10-04-2017 04:48 PM:

lost dog

Years ago I left a dog out and lost him for a week.I found his tracking collar and it appeared to be cut off with a knife.It was during deer bow hunting season and when I found him a week later one of his ears looked like someone had tried to cut it off.It was hanging attached by about a quarter of an inch.After thinking about it for a long time I decided what may have happened was a deer hunter tried to shoot him with an arrow and it sliced thru his collar and hit his ear.After that I vowed to never leave a dog out again and believe I never have.I absolutely believe if I turn a dog loose and he does his job its my duty to go to him!This guy needs to find another sport.imo.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 10-04-2017 05:01 PM:

Some places that I hunt, you can't hear a dog 350 yds from you. And just because a dog knows how to get back to where you turned them loose doesn't mean that they want to. Some will come back in 30 minutes and some will come back when the sun comes up. And there are some that could care less and won't come back for days. Why do some people think that everywhere in the country is just like where they hunt? And why do some think that every dog is just like their dog?
Every hunter is different and every dog is different. I have never understood why some think that their way is the only way and everyone else should be just like them. Or that every dog's style should be just like what they like. Diversity is what makes the World not only challenging but exciting. Imagine how boring it would be if we were all just alike.
Stateing your preference or what you think is one thing. But sayiing that everyone that doesn't think or act you do is something else.

Posted by Outback1 on 10-04-2017 05:02 PM:

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If a dog can get there I can get to him... I can promise you that. I might not enjoy it and never turn loose there again but I'll go get him. I'd like to see one of these impenetrable areas if you have a pic. I've never seen a smart dog have a problem of remembering where you cut him loose from either.

No I do not have a picture, the place I am talking about is so thick that deer hounds in the club I coon hunt in have not come out for a week. maybe you could get in there as I have once, never again. I know dog's can trail there way back out, if they want to, they seem to choose to not come back, I have been coon hunting 40 years, and deer hunted with dogs before that, I know it's not the dog's fault it's ours, because they learn that we will come to them because we know where they are due to tracking collars, back when I first started hunting there were no tracking systems so the dog knew to come back to where they were turned loose. now we tone them to come back to us, it may be where we turned out or on the next road closer to the dogs.

Posted by bsmith921 on 10-04-2017 10:47 PM:

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But what about Chicago and Obama!?! 😂😂

Chicago is basically it's own state to all of us down state Illinoisans. I'm hoping Lake Michigan will swallow it soon.🙏🙏🙏

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Posted by rob thompson on 10-04-2017 11:15 PM:

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Some places that I hunt, you can't hear a dog 350 yds from you. And just because a dog knows how to get back to where you turned them loose doesn't mean that they want to. Some will come back in 30 minutes and some will come back when the sun comes up. And there are some that could care less and won't come back for days. Why do some people think that everywhere in the country is just like where they hunt? And why do some think that every dog is just like their dog?
Every hunter is different and every dog is different. I have never understood why some think that their way is the only way and everyone else should be just like them. Or that every dog's style should be just like what they like. Diversity is what makes the World not only challenging but exciting. Imagine how boring it would be if we were all just alike.
Stateing your preference or what you think is one thing. But sayiing that everyone that doesn't think or act you do is something else.

there are places here where you can't hear a dog 80 yards! And because we have a little of everything here and I could care less how others hunt, I just don't understand some things because I would never think of turning a dog loose where I had no intention of retrieving them. Remember not too long ago all the stuff about just leaving dogs tied out at Autumn oaks and some lady blowing it up on face book? Or what about the 13 blueticks that were shot and left in the ditch a while back? That really helped houndsmen! Now we just turn them loose with no intention of getting them back? I DO NOT UNDERSTAND? Enlighten me please richard, I get it Yes back no trackers throw the coat out I've done it myself but would not dream of it now.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 10-04-2017 11:33 PM:

If they won't come to me then why should I go to them?
I never said that I wouldn't go to one if they were treed if it were possible. But I do "understand" that everyone is different. You post in one sentence that you have left your dogs before and then in the next you say that you don't "understand" why someone else would not go get theirs. Now that I don't "understand".

Posted by rob thompson on 10-04-2017 11:36 PM:

Yrs ago before I even had a beep beep and the ol man worked me over! Geeze Richard I'm starting to see why you hunt redbones! Lol read what I wrote real slow. And you should go get them cause they are your responsibility, period.

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Posted by rob thompson on 10-04-2017 11:48 PM:

Actually Richard I understand completely why you would leave your dogs in the woods. Sorry it just came to me.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 10-04-2017 11:50 PM:

Maybe it is their responsibility to come back and find me. Or to come when I call them. Oh I go get them. But sometimes it is the next morning.
And I went back and re-read the posts. Nowhere did I see where anyone said anything about intentionally turning a dog loose when they didn't plan on going to get them.

Posted by Preston Chadwell on 10-04-2017 11:53 PM:

I agree with you Rob. There is a big difference in not knowing where your dogs are and having to leave them, and knowing exactly where they're at because you have a Garmin but being too sorry to go get them.

If for some reason you are physically not able to go get the dog and you have a dog that doesn't listen just don't turn the stupid thing loose to begin with.

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Posted by joey on 10-05-2017 12:02 AM:

I hunt mine in some places that I cant get to them at times because of water. Last year I left one and it was the first one I had left in many years. She treed across water that was moving pretty swift. I started to swim it like I have a thousand times and got this gut feeling that I shouldn't. So I left her. Figuring she would be back where I left her or close at 9 the next morning I headed back. She was still treed in the same spot. I walked the mile back there and had to swim the dang thing anyway. BY the time I got to her she had been treed for 12 hours and you could barely hear her.

Sometimes you don't have a choice but if I can make it I'm going to get them or at least call them back. With that female calling wasn't an option. The male I have now I have called back across water several times. If this guy dosen't want to go to his dog for what ever reason then that's his business. Its not mine to judge what he does. People are different I could tell a long time ago from his post that he thinks a little differently than most in the coon hunting world but that's ok. Whats the song say? " It takes all kinds of kinds" I mean look at Richard.

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Posted by rob thompson on 10-05-2017 12:12 AM:

I will word this a little different since you like playing the devils advocate, MY dog is MY responsibility and its MY responsibility to teach MY dog to come when called, a Dog is an animal and believe it or not the only responsibility they have is to eat, crap, and breed.

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Posted by rob thompson on 10-05-2017 12:14 AM:

That was for Richard not u mike, didn't get it typed fast enough

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Posted by joey on 10-05-2017 12:50 AM:

Rob I never had one with a handle, I never worried about. I just waited till they treed and went and got them. Got wet a bunch of nights. After this one I'll never have one again that want come when I call it.

Posted by Bill(Chew) on 10-05-2017 01:02 AM:

I agree with going to the dogs if at all possible.

Most of you have no clue what the Sheep Ridge Wilderness is like. It is FLAT, it is THICK, it is HUGE!! Look up what a pocossin is. You think 700 yards is not far and in most terrains it is not. In this area it might as well be 7 MILES. Have you ever pushed your way through a reed thicket? Try looking at stuff that thick that is swamp mahogany about 1 to 2 inches thick wrapped up in green brier and black briars. Like I said in an earlier post, you don't walk through it you climb through it. At 700 yards the dogs will never hear you call unless they actually stop and listen. I use a steel whistle to get their attention when trying to call dogs out. The garmin tone is great but it may not penetrate this mess at 700 yards, I know the tritronics can't!!

Rob, like I said before, there is some great hunting in the Croatan but not the block they call the SHEEP RIDGE WILDERNESS. If you want to try it come on down and I can guide you. I live one hour north and have hunted around it.

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Posted by Martinbnt on 10-05-2017 01:12 AM:

If u guys hunt as hard as u trash people u don't know.dang u are good,and it must feel good to boot

Posted by rob thompson on 10-05-2017 01:13 AM:

Ya bill I know what it is

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Posted by rob thompson on 10-05-2017 01:15 AM:

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If u guys hunt as hard as u trash people u don't know.dang u are good,and it must feel good to boot

sometimes it does sometimes we are just bored

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 10-05-2017 01:16 AM:

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.....MY dog is MY responsibility.....

My dog and I have more of a partnership. And I don't expect him to be perfect and he doesn't expect me to be perfect.
I love a good challenge just as much as the next man but I know my limitations. There are rivers that I can't swim and there are wilderness areas that I can't get through.

Posted by rob thompson on 10-05-2017 01:17 AM:

That's why I taught mine "come" and "heel"

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 10-05-2017 01:18 AM:

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If u guys hunt as hard as u trash people u don't know.dang u are good,and it must feel good to boot

You tell em. I just wish that they would quit picking on me.

Posted by rob thompson on 10-05-2017 01:27 AM:

Richard nobody was saying anything to you til you threw yourself in the middle of the conversation.

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