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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
My granny always used to say, "if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.". If your dog can't tree coons in the South then stay in the North. For the last 2 weeks everyone has been saying that a good dog could tree coons anywhere and the North vs South thing was a lot of bull. But Thursday night reality set in. I guess that there is a difference. And if you and your dog can't compete in those conditions then I guess that you should just stay home. My granny also said once, "if you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch". But she didn't say anything about crying and whining and complaing while you were sitting up there on the porch.![]()
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Ive heard all these yrs how it was not harder here. Well lmao.....
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there is a truck hunt in tennessee going on for 35000 for 1rst place those scores are very close to ukcs world finals scores except minus points can advance
quote:it is absolutely no different than Missouri hunting. Coons just didn't move because of the heat. Your trees are a lot taller that is for sure.
Originally posted by GA DAWG
Ive heard all these yrs how it was not harder here. Well lmao.....
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Originally posted by rob thompson
it is absolutely no different than Missouri hunting. Coons just didn't move because of the heat. Your trees are a lot taller that is for sure.
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Actually it was no different than what we hunted during the Allie Brooke hunt minus the beans. Ralstons spot by the hog confinement.
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Originally posted by rob thompson
Actually it was no different than what we hunted during the Allie Brooke hunt minus the beans. Ralstons spot by the hog confinement.
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I may just do that josh.
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Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
Most of the top dogs in the country dont even compete in the UKC world hunt
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Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
This comment rubs me the wrong way Josh. You are labeled the best by winning several casts over a stretch of time. Lose one cast and there sure ain't no re-entry. Turn lose when it's virtually impossible to tree what isn't down, guess what you go home.
UKC represents the average man. It is without question the most dominant kennel club.
Winning at the zones and at the finals is a huge accomplishment. My only problem is having this hunt in a state like Georgia where coon can often be very difficult to tree and requiring plus points at the finals should without question be reviewed.
It's not right eliminating one third of the casts because coon simply weren't there and moving.
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Sir I am going to say this with all the respect I have. The dogs of today a big percentage are bred up and trained to have the biggest part of one coon and win their cast and advance not to run up a big score most get their yap open of the leash keep the 8 off go deep and tree a hot pop up. I watched the scores in the zones there was low scores all over the country except for a handfull of high scores. Anytime you have a year advance notice where a world hunt is going to be some hunters will in some cases not all tweak their woods to fit their dogs a well rounded dog that could tree a layed up coon or work a bad track might would have faired better their far as the coons not moving in all those cast I believe more that a lot of them got lead poisoning before y'all got there plus some inofitient judging made for a ruff hunt but there will be a winner tonight that dang sure did not get it handed to them and in a month this will all be forgotten and we will be watching the play by plays of some other big hunt their is just no excitement about a dog winning this or any other world hunt anymore because there is no use for them after they do I hope this did not come out wrong.
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Man, you are getting a little deep and way over in left field with some of these thoughts (suggestions). You really think there was a full scale effort in Georgia to modify the raccoon population to favor a certain "type" of dog? You could not get 10 hunters to agree on anything, much less something so radical as suggested by some of your opinions. We need to focus on the dogs and handlers that competed on basically the same playing field under the same rules and won. Period! I Congradulations to all dogs and handlers who hunted in this hunt. Looking forward to the PBP tonight and a new UKC World Champion. Best dog in the country or not, they will be the Best dog in this Hunt. Thank you to UKC And All of the Georgia Clubs, Judges and Guides that made this Hunt possible. Dave
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Quote:
"Winning at the zones and at the finals is a huge accomplishment. My only problem is having this hunt in a state like Georgia where coon can often be very difficult to tree and requiring plus points at the finals should without question be reviewed._
It's not right eliminating one third of the casts because coon simply weren't there and moving"
So you want a hunt held where pop up coons and high scores are easy to come by ?
Coons were in the woods where the guides took casts. Some places better than others. See my earlier post about my experience in the 2011 Autumn Oaks.
There is both good night's & bad no matter where you are. It's a good thing to hold the World Hunt in various locations. It takes luck as well as dog power and handler skills to win. The cream will rise to the top.
Tar, a lot of the excitement is gone because there are just so many big hunts. Next week is the supper stakes, another world hunt next month, truck hunts coming up, on and on and on. That's why the excitement is gone. If you get to do your favorite thing everyday then after a while it stops being your favorite thing.
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The 1st week of December would be a good time to hold a world hunt regardless of were Its held. UKC does a good job with Major events but having Autumn Oaks then Worlds in the same month is bad business.
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Originally posted by yadkintar
Anytime you have a year advance notice where a world hunt is going to be some hunters will in some cases not all tweak their woods to fit their dogs a well rounded dog that could tree a layed up coon or work a bad track might would have faired better their far as the coons not moving in all those cast I believe more that a lot of them got lead poisoning before y'all got there
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Originally posted by H.W. Moore
The 1st week of December would be a good time to hold a world hunt regardless of were Its held. UKC does a good job with Major events but having Autumn Oaks then Worlds in the same month is bad business.
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Re: Tar
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dave Richards
Man, you are getting a little deep and way over in left field with some of these thoughts (suggestions). You really think there was a full scale effort in Georgia to modify the raccoon population to favor a certain "type" of dog? You could not get 10 hunters to agree on anything, much less something so radical as suggested by some of your opinions. We need to focus on the dogs and handlers that competed on basically the same playing field under the same rules and won. Period! I Congradulations to all dogs and handlers who hunted in this hunt. Looking forward to the PBP tonight and a new UKC World Champion. Best dog in the country or not, they will be the Best dog in this Hunt. Thank you to UKC And All of the Georgia Clubs, Judges and Guides that made this Hunt possible. Dave [/QUOTE
Dave I experienced it on Friday of the zones one coon and that was an accident guide done the same thing to a cast on Saturday. On Saturday. I scored 500+ 0- cast win with the same dog leash locked for 35 minutes seen 16 coons 15 miles from where I hunted Friday night conspiracies are for the guys on the board while the rest of us are out there dealing with it if you don't think that crap is going on you get you a dog hunt in the bigger hunts for 6 months and then preach to me Hubba bubba !!
Maybe distemper? Maybe farmers trapping or poisoning them? I highly doubt people are trying to effectively (dryhole) hunters. Seems almost impossible to kill every coon out of an area also. If my dogs don't strike where you dump them they'll go to the next woods rather you follow them or not..
Tar
Man, you are no doubt right about some @shelled that will stoop to anything to tilt the ballgame in their favor. Just not the number needed to affect a major hunt. I am not blind to the ways of the world, just do not think everyone is a crook. Nuff said. Let us enjoy the final cast. Dave
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Maybe some of the folks didn't have the dog power that thought they had. It's obvious coons aren't thick, but I recall some of y'all saying a dog should be able to tree a coon on the moon. SS is next week. How many of y'all that got cheated are headed up to win it all?
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