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Everone there does. Have you never been to a hunt? Everyone comments on darkness, lightness, eye color, amount of white, amount of black. You hear it every time a dog walks by. Or if they are tied out, then every time someone walks by they will check out and comment on the color.

I will say this , when I pick a pup out of a litter. I make sure my pick has Black on his or her tail, they just seem to turn out.

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LUCKING'S MIDNITE REDS
"A FAMILY OF DUAL PURPOSE HOUNDS THAT CONTINUES ON GENERATION AFTER GENERATION"
Home of:

'Pr' Lucking's Code Red Mountain Dew ( Owned by chad porter and myself) ( Daughter of Desperado) 2 1st place wins ukc nite hunt. 1 best of show with comp , bench show.

'Pr' Lucking's Northern Red Tucker

AND THE PAST:
NT.CH.CH.LUCKING'S KN. LAKE TROOPER
NT.CH.GR.CH.LUCKING'S RAISIN KANE(son of trooper)
NT.CH.CH. LUCKING'S MAD MAGGIE(niece to tornado)
GR.CH.NT.CH.LUCKING'S RED TORNADO(son of trooper)
NT.CH.GR.CH.L&I RED HOT WYLIE(son of tornado)
'pr'lucking's northern red cowgirl (daughter of wylie)(needs just a 1st given to mark barnett)
nt.ch.gr.ch.Lucking's Midnite Desperado (son of cowgirl)(sold to bill tabler)
Nt.Ch.Ch. Desperado's Midnite 3 D(son of Desperado) (given to larry tabler)

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Everone there does. Have you never been to a hunt? Everyone comments on darkness, lightness, eye color, amount of white, amount of black. You hear it every time a dog walks by. Or if they are tied out, then every time someone walks by they will check out and comment on the color.

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NT.Ch. WINNER AT REDBONE SEC. 2008
3RD PL. NT.CH. 2009 BATTLE OF BREEDS AT ADA OKLA.
4TH PLACE R.Q.E 2010
2ND PLACE OVERALL AT ZONE 4 AND DOUBLE CAST WINNER 2010
WENT TO 2010 WORLD HUNT
AMERICAN REDBONE ASSOCIATION HIGH SCOREING REDBONE FEMALE OF THE 2010 WORLD HUNT
OVERALL HI SCOREING DOG AT 2010 BBCHA BLUE TIC SECTIONAL
GR.NT.CH. AT 12 and A HALF
MADE-EM SEE RED

Jeez

I wish you Redbone illuminati would quit polluting the x breds with these pure bred redbones that don't meet your stupid color standard. The X breds are not the dumping ground for your genetic mutants. LOL

Here's a real idea for a path forward...try getting the NRCA to pass a "performance standard". LOL

Great idea Chris and add to that ANY pup from two registered Redbone parents no matter no color. That's exactly what the x-bred is...dumping grounds. If it werent for them off colored Redbones there wouldn't be no need for x-bred.

hummm. sounds like the pups meet the breed standard for the american saddle back that a.c.h.a. use to have many moons ago.my uncle had some that were outstanding in the timber . love to have one of those saddle back red dogs he had in the 70s. like everyone else in this part of the country he switched to walker hounds cause he could make more money training and selling them .now treeing walkers are a dime a dozen and only 1 out of the last ten walker pups i owned made the grade at my house . hot nosed dogs that go a mile to get a coon because they lack the brains and tools needed to tree the first coon they smell just anit my style . saw 2 of them fighting at a hunt over a slick tree at a r.q.e. last year .lol got a 10 month old x-bred i like now . wouldnt mind having a black backed red dog to play around with that was breed by matching good traits than one breed for color and breed standards .

Thomas, its nice to see that there are some smart people here that sees that one can not breed out genetics, both recessive and dominate. That tree fighting, yep genetics and should be just as much a fault seen as the off-color that doesn't stop it from being a coon dog. Even though UKC allows us to register offspring of registered Redbones that don't meet breed standards as x-bred its a shame that true houndsmen forgets our roots. And we wonder why America is going down hill so fast. It vey well be the same group of people that wish to change our US Constitution. Like a lobster being boiled, we don't see death til its to late.

Ron, I will agree with much of what you are saying....almost.

First of all I can't see how any true Redbone person would want to call a Black and Tan color dog a Redbone even if it come out of Redbones.
A) Our roots did not call Redbones because of color it was because of a breeders last name. You are probably correct on a Bluetick and Black & Tan. I'd call a Redbone out of two registered parents that were also Redbone because of this fact. Again, the breed sets the standard...not the standard setting the breed.

There is no breed that is 100% pure if you go back far enough. When I grew up there wasn't very many registered hounds in my area. All hounds were classified by its color. If you had a litter of pups they were called by the color not the breed. If there were two Black & Tans, two Blueticks and two Redbones you called them as such. You didn't call them by the color or breed of the parents. The breed associations started up because people want to hunt a certain bred so they set standers such as color, size, ect. If a pup did not fit that stander they were not registered. I've raised many litters of Redbone pups over the years and there were pups in some of them litters that did not meet the breed standers so they were giving away as grade dogs. I'm sure that a lot of those dogs made outstanding coondogs, but they did not meet the breed standers plain and simple, and I would not even think of registering a Black & Tan color pup as a Redbone nor due I think any true Redbone person would.

B) These words are pointing to man changing what was done in the beginning. Choosing their desires to make their standard everyone elses. Again, UKC saves the life of puppies being killed because of man's standard. Would I like to register off colored pups as their lineage suggests? You bet. Would I show them? You bet. Could they win? Probably not. Our mindset has been that the breed MUST be Red rather then what our roots point to...a line of coondogs bred to hunt and not meet a standard of any kind. See, I too prefer an all RED dog and not see any white. In fact, the darker the Red the better. Would I buy an off colored Redbone? One with any white? NOPE!!! But that doesn't change the fact of their heritage.

I have hunted Redbones for over 50 years and I like the color standers that we have been going by for many years now. I like the ideal the kennel Clubs have come up with to register a dog as a x breed so that those pups will also have a chance to compete in competition. I don't care if two Registered Redbones did throw a off color pup, I would not register it, I would simply say it was out of a pair of Redbones.

C) If you would simply say it was out of a pair of Redbones then in fact you are agreeing that it is a Redbone that doesn't meet a standard. The same as a height standard. Etc. I too like and very happy that the kennel clubs are allowing us to register the offspring. I believe UKC is the only registry that is being controlled by an association on setting the standard. IF...I say these words sadly, IF we were to stop the bench shows at OUR hound events there would be no standard. As OKLARED pointed to....who actually looked at color at the hunts? Yes, we all do. Man is attracted to color, size, head, etc. But carry it further, does it matter if the dog is a Red English, Blue English, pure white Walker, etc. I believe what OKLARED was pointing to is that unlike a bench show where the dogs are called out by breed (paperwork) the night hunts are dictated by a hound. Now if I happen to win a hunt with an off colored hound is someone going to question the breed? If so, the registry has the authority to call it like it is because of DNA and the record of the crosses being made.

ibrobiinhood I respect your opinion as I due any mans, However to me this is about the same as discussing politics or religion. If you truly believe in what your saying then there is no right or wrong answer, nor will very many people change there minds.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ron Swan
ibrobiinhood I respect your opinion as I due any mans, However to me this is about the same as discussing politics or religion. If you truly believe in what your saying then there is no right or wrong answer, nor will very many people change there minds. [/QUO
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I believe you nailed Mr swan. Well said

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606-282-8323

As I respect yours Ron. Discussing and not fighting. Will it ever change. Nope. Does it matter? Nope. I know my hounds offsprings are from registered Redbones and IF I were to keep one I'd use it in my breeding program. That offspring, meeting a breed standard can be registered as Redbones. I still believe its a shame that we let a standard dictate over nature, ie...man playing God.

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IBROBINHOOD'''

I know a man who recently bred 2 PR REDBONES together and one of the pups was a TRI_COLOR black brown and white a Holstein..

Should that dog be registered as a redbone ??

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Larry D Walker

Indiana

812-327-8224

color breed standards

UKC BREED STANDARD REDBONE

COLOR;

SOLID RED PREFERED,SMALL AMOUNT OF WHITE ON BRISKET AND FEET NOT OBJECTIONABLE..

DISQULIFICATIONS...ALBINISM;;ANY COLOR OR COMBINATION OF COLORS OTHER THAN DESCRIBED..

I SEE NO WAY A BLACK AN TAN MEETS THESE STANDARDS I HAVE HAD THEM IN MY LITTERS,,,THEY NEVER GOT REGISTERED,,,I GAVE THEM AWAY TO HUNTERS...

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Larry D Walker

Indiana

812-327-8224

Buyer

Who in there right mind would buy a Redbone pup that is Balck an Tan in color to start with ????

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Larry D Walker

Indiana

812-327-8224

Re: color breed standards

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Originally posted by Larry D Walker
UKC BREED STANDARD REDBONE

COLOR;

SOLID RED PREFERED,SMALL AMOUNT OF WHITE ON BRISKET AND FEET NOT OBJECTIONABLE..

DISQULIFICATIONS...ALBINISM;;ANY COLOR OR COMBINATION OF COLORS OTHER THAN DESCRIBED..

I SEE NO WAY A BLACK AN TAN MEETS THESE STANDARDS I HAVE HAD THEM IN MY LITTERS,,,THEY NEVER GOT REGISTERED,,,I GAVE THEM AWAY TO HUNTERS...

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Dr. Allen Hallada (Doc Halladay)

Current:

PKC Ch. Gr.Nt.Ch. Cat Scratch Fever
(Gr.Nt.Ch. PKC Ch. Moonlight Aftershock x Gr.Nt.Ch. PKC Ch. Moonlight Outlaw Breanna)
2016 Finished to PKC Ch. in one week!

Dual Grand Champion CHKC Ch., PKC Gold Ch. All Grand Outlaw G-Man
(Gr.Nt.Ch.Glissens JJ Jr. x Gr.Nt.Ch. Outlaw Billy Jean)
4 Generations of All Grand Nite Champions!
Timber Jack 3X and Timber Chopper over 30X
2019 Southern National Redbone Days Champion
2016 National Grand Nite Champion Redbone
2016 CHKC Redbone Days Champion
2016 PKC Super Stakes Reserve Champion
2016 CHKC Elite Shootout Winner - Texas
CHKC All Time Money Winning Redbone

Bodacious
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Gr.Ch.PKC. Gold Ch.CHKC CH. Outlaw G-Man x Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. CHKC Ch., PKC Gold Ch. Classy Cali)


Past:
Gr.Nt.Ch.Ch. Dawns Timber Jack
1988 American Redbone Days All Red Hunt Winner
1989 UKC World Champion Redbone
1989 Purina Outstanding Redbone Coonhound
#2 Historic Redbone Sire/ Top 20 All Breeds
American Redbone Coonhound Assoc. Hall of Fame

Gr.Nt.Ch. Bussrow Bottom Brandy II
1991 American Redbone Days Champion
1992 AKC World Champion Redbone
1992 ACHA World Champion Redbone
1992 Wisconsin State Champion
1994 US Redbone Days Opposite Sex
Produced 2 Nt. Ch. , 1 Gr.Nt.Ch. out of 2 litters and two Redbone Days Winners

Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. PKC Gold Ch. Layton's Classy Cali
2012 UKC World Champion Redbone and 7th Place Overall
2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 UKC World Champion Redbone Female
2015 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Hunt Winner - Goodsprings, AL
2015 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Series Race - 3rd Place Overall
2016 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Hunt Winner - New Albany, MS
2016 PKC Texas State Race Winner
2016 PKC Redbone Breed Race Winner
PKC All Time Money Winning Redbone

PKC Ch. Gr.Nt.Ch. Coffman's Smokin Red Buck
2016 UKC World Hunt 5th Place and World Champion Redbone
2016 National Redbone Days Overall Winner

Gr.Nt.Ch. Reinhart's Central Page
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Brandy II)

Gr.Nt.Ch. Too the Maxx
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Jenkins Crying Katie)
1992 National Redbone Days Champion

Gr.Ch.Nt.Ch. Ambraw River Rock
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Ch.Nt.Ch. Hersh's Huntin Red Kate)
1992 US Redbone Days Opposite Sex

Nt.Ch. Tree Bustin Annabelle
1986 American Redbone Days All Red Hunt Winner

Nt.Ch. Timber Mace
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack X Nt.Ch. Tree Bustin Annabelle)
Mother of Gr.Nt.Ch. Babb's Hazel

Nt. Ch. Timber Shock
(Gr.Nt.Ch.Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Outlaw Jessie)

Gr. Ch. Nt. Ch. Squaw Mountain Goldie
(Direct Daughter of Gr.Nt.Ch.Smokey Mountain Brandy)
1990 Autumn Oaks Best of Show Winner
1988 Indiana State Champion

Evidently it is DOC

Its pushing 2000 views and looks to me like you have made several post on this thread ???


Most interesting thread I have seen in over a yr...gets pretty boring...

Maybe that's it everyone is bored....

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Larry D Walker

Indiana

812-327-8224

Larry I'd love to see a pic of that pup. And what it is off of.

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LUCKING'S MIDNITE REDS
"A FAMILY OF DUAL PURPOSE HOUNDS THAT CONTINUES ON GENERATION AFTER GENERATION"
Home of:

'Pr' Lucking's Code Red Mountain Dew ( Owned by chad porter and myself) ( Daughter of Desperado) 2 1st place wins ukc nite hunt. 1 best of show with comp , bench show.

'Pr' Lucking's Northern Red Tucker

AND THE PAST:
NT.CH.CH.LUCKING'S KN. LAKE TROOPER
NT.CH.GR.CH.LUCKING'S RAISIN KANE(son of trooper)
NT.CH.CH. LUCKING'S MAD MAGGIE(niece to tornado)
GR.CH.NT.CH.LUCKING'S RED TORNADO(son of trooper)
NT.CH.GR.CH.L&I RED HOT WYLIE(son of tornado)
'pr'lucking's northern red cowgirl (daughter of wylie)(needs just a 1st given to mark barnett)
nt.ch.gr.ch.Lucking's Midnite Desperado (son of cowgirl)(sold to bill tabler)
Nt.Ch.Ch. Desperado's Midnite 3 D(son of Desperado) (given to larry tabler)

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Originally posted by wade lucking
I'd love to see a pic of that pup. And what it is off of.

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Friends don't let friends hunt blueticks

They say as you get old you want revert back to your childhood,so I guess I need put my tennis shoes on,my bell bottom pants and my carbibe light,get my crossbred hound go turn him loose,build a fire and listen to him run half the night,then he trees in a den tree spend the rest of the night chopping coon out,O those were the days I don't want to go back to.

DOES ANYONE KNOW THE BREED STANDARD OF A WALKER DOG

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HOME OF 2010 HIGH SCOREING REDBONE FEMALE, DUAL CH Y2KD, #7 REPRODUCING RED FEMALE
NT.Ch. WINNER AT REDBONE SEC. 2008
3RD PL. NT.CH. 2009 BATTLE OF BREEDS AT ADA OKLA.
4TH PLACE R.Q.E 2010
2ND PLACE OVERALL AT ZONE 4 AND DOUBLE CAST WINNER 2010
WENT TO 2010 WORLD HUNT
AMERICAN REDBONE ASSOCIATION HIGH SCOREING REDBONE FEMALE OF THE 2010 WORLD HUNT
OVERALL HI SCOREING DOG AT 2010 BBCHA BLUE TIC SECTIONAL
GR.NT.CH. AT 12 and A HALF
MADE-EM SEE RED

First off, THANKS to UKC. Although they maybe x-bred the paperwork proves who their parents are. I am ok with that. As I said, my desire is to have the best Redbone there is.....in the woods. I prefer to have a Red colored one but I wouldn't be detered to breeding to one. I've been questioned about registering dogs. Yep, any dog from PR bred dogs of the same breed should be registered. Any questions then DNA should be used. If found to be faltsifing paperwork then there is steps to be taken there. Changing the standard for a few? I believe it may have been changed in the early years. I have a feeling the color is something not to old in our history.

My beliefs but at least I know that nature is in charge and wherever the Black and Tan or White came from in the breed it is further back then 3 generations. Again, as far as breeding goes, I'd breed to an x-bred dog showing the lines of being from Redbone (not a mixed) long before I bred to a "standard" meeting Redbone that has never smelled a coon. The same goes for using a stud dog of mine being used on a female that meets a "standard" but doesn't know the difference between steak and a coon.

Re: Evidently it is DOC

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Originally posted by Larry D Walker
Its pushing 2000 views and looks to me like you have made several post on this thread ???


Most interesting thread I have seen in over a yr...gets pretty boring...

Maybe that's it everyone is bored....

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Dr. Allen Hallada (Doc Halladay)

Current:

PKC Ch. Gr.Nt.Ch. Cat Scratch Fever
(Gr.Nt.Ch. PKC Ch. Moonlight Aftershock x Gr.Nt.Ch. PKC Ch. Moonlight Outlaw Breanna)
2016 Finished to PKC Ch. in one week!

Dual Grand Champion CHKC Ch., PKC Gold Ch. All Grand Outlaw G-Man
(Gr.Nt.Ch.Glissens JJ Jr. x Gr.Nt.Ch. Outlaw Billy Jean)
4 Generations of All Grand Nite Champions!
Timber Jack 3X and Timber Chopper over 30X
2019 Southern National Redbone Days Champion
2016 National Grand Nite Champion Redbone
2016 CHKC Redbone Days Champion
2016 PKC Super Stakes Reserve Champion
2016 CHKC Elite Shootout Winner - Texas
CHKC All Time Money Winning Redbone

Bodacious
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Gr.Ch.PKC. Gold Ch.CHKC CH. Outlaw G-Man x Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. CHKC Ch., PKC Gold Ch. Classy Cali)


Past:
Gr.Nt.Ch.Ch. Dawns Timber Jack
1988 American Redbone Days All Red Hunt Winner
1989 UKC World Champion Redbone
1989 Purina Outstanding Redbone Coonhound
#2 Historic Redbone Sire/ Top 20 All Breeds
American Redbone Coonhound Assoc. Hall of Fame

Gr.Nt.Ch. Bussrow Bottom Brandy II
1991 American Redbone Days Champion
1992 AKC World Champion Redbone
1992 ACHA World Champion Redbone
1992 Wisconsin State Champion
1994 US Redbone Days Opposite Sex
Produced 2 Nt. Ch. , 1 Gr.Nt.Ch. out of 2 litters and two Redbone Days Winners

Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. PKC Gold Ch. Layton's Classy Cali
2012 UKC World Champion Redbone and 7th Place Overall
2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 UKC World Champion Redbone Female
2015 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Hunt Winner - Goodsprings, AL
2015 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Series Race - 3rd Place Overall
2016 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Hunt Winner - New Albany, MS
2016 PKC Texas State Race Winner
2016 PKC Redbone Breed Race Winner
PKC All Time Money Winning Redbone

PKC Ch. Gr.Nt.Ch. Coffman's Smokin Red Buck
2016 UKC World Hunt 5th Place and World Champion Redbone
2016 National Redbone Days Overall Winner

Gr.Nt.Ch. Reinhart's Central Page
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Brandy II)

Gr.Nt.Ch. Too the Maxx
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Jenkins Crying Katie)
1992 National Redbone Days Champion

Gr.Ch.Nt.Ch. Ambraw River Rock
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Ch.Nt.Ch. Hersh's Huntin Red Kate)
1992 US Redbone Days Opposite Sex

Nt.Ch. Tree Bustin Annabelle
1986 American Redbone Days All Red Hunt Winner

Nt.Ch. Timber Mace
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack X Nt.Ch. Tree Bustin Annabelle)
Mother of Gr.Nt.Ch. Babb's Hazel

Nt. Ch. Timber Shock
(Gr.Nt.Ch.Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Outlaw Jessie)

Gr. Ch. Nt. Ch. Squaw Mountain Goldie
(Direct Daughter of Gr.Nt.Ch.Smokey Mountain Brandy)
1990 Autumn Oaks Best of Show Winner
1988 Indiana State Champion

Right Doc....agree with the thought on the Black & Tans. It may or may not have been introduced in the beginning BUT it could have. It could have been added in the early 80's or it could have been doubled on in the early 80's. The 3 pups I just had surely showed the traits of nice Black & Tan.

History[edit]

In the late 18th century, many European-type hunting dogs were imported to America, most of them of Scottish, French, English, and Irish ancestry: the English Foxhound, the Harrier, the Grand Bleu de Gascogne, the Welsh Hound, the Beagle, and the Bloodhound were among these. Most often, these dogs were imported so that wealthy planters of the Tidewater could engage in foxhunting. Over time, Southern hunters selectively bred dogs that would not back down, had great stamina, and would "hound" their prey until they treed or cornered their exhausted quarry, leading to modern coonhounds.





The Redbone Coonhound was bred as a hunting dog.
In the late 18th century Scottish immigrants brought red-colored foxhounds to Georgia, which would be the foundation stock of the Redbone. Later, approximately 1840, Irish-bred Foxhound and Bloodhound lines were added. The name came from an early breeder, Peter Redbone of Tennessee, though other breeders of note are Redbone's contemporary, George F.L. Birdsong of Georgia, and Dr. Thomas Henry in the 19th century.[3] Over time, breeders followed a selective program that led to a coonhound that is specialized for prey which climbs trees, was unafraid of taking on large animals, was agile enough to carry on over mountain or in meadow, and liked to swim if necessary. They were ideal for pack hunting of both small and larger prey. Originally, the Redbone had a black saddleback, but by the beginning of the 20th century, it was an uninterrupted red tone.[3][4]

See where our name came from? It was not based on color but rather a breeders last name. I look at my roots and facts. That being...a breeders last name and there being no such thing as "pure bred". We do not know when the Black & Tan was introduced into our breed, we can only assume. Just like we don't know when the white came in. However, today we have the use of DNA. We have use of the registry to track our breedings that take place. I have a litter of Redbones, who because of man and its "standard" goes against nature says the offspring of a pair of hounds is not "pure". DNA proves that the "non-standard" hound did in fact come from the said parents. Got news for ya, that same trait is in EVERY pup in that litter. If one is registered x-bred then they all should be. That off-colored dog has the same EQUAL chance of throwing a "standard" meeting litter as its littermates. No doubt in my mind we aren't on the same page. LOL I prefer a "Red" redbone too. I'm saying you can't change genetics and getting rid of it by saying it doesn't meet a standard isn't going to work no matter how hard you try.

Hummmm

I was at a Sportsmen s show today put on by a group from the SVE high school sportsmen s club, ''School kids'' our future in the outdoors. our coonclub set up there to support our youth & our coon hunting future .
Now there was a mounted ''WHITE'' racoon there, a really nice pure white one--the story behind this white coon goes something like this. it was first treed in March in the 80ths in training season by a couple of club members and as I remember it was treed 1st in March by a ''SINGLE register Redbone. the owner climbed the tree to get a closer look while his buddy was razzin him on his dog treeing a cat--lol, but it was a coon and neither one thought about going and getting a camera to take a picture--yes they could have shook it out, but these guys were pretty good sportsmen and walked away with a great memory, of course they told others about treeing it,but wouldn't let it be known where.
Just shy of 2 years later it was treed again on the 9th of Jan. this time it was season with snow on the ground and it was treed by 2 'PR' Redbones, I guess you could say that one was a ''SHOW'' dog as she had won 3rd place Champion of Champions in 1981 at Autumn Oaks, and the other redbone--her brother was a dual Ch.
Now back to this color thing--where did this coon get its color from?? no it wasn't a true Albino as it didn't have pink eyes or feet or nose.
I guess we can't call it a typical coon, but was still a coon.like these off colored dogs I don't think you can call them true Redbones, but they do have a true 'PR' redbone pedigree. so they are registered Xbreed--does it really matter, they are ''DOGS'' that may be some of the best ever. time may tell. Just like the white coon only the creator knows for sure where the color comes from. Stuff happens, lets get over it.

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Life member NRA
Current dogs
GR CH NT CH RED MIGHTY 90-Bo/Sierra
NT.CH.GR CH BEYOND BILLY HTX --Billy the Kid/ Amber
GR CH 1ST & 2ND place wins 90/4 LIFE GUN-HTX==-Willy BOY/Bigtime Britt
Dogs I have owned
Nt ch Gr ch HERSHS HUNTIN RED IKE
NT CH CH HERSHS HUNTIN BUDDY
GR NT CH MILLERS DIRTY RED
NT CH CH LYNN'S CREEK JULIE
GR CH HERSHS HUNTIN RED KATE
CH NITE CH AMBRAW RIVER TIMBER ROCK
NT CH HERSHS HUNTIN RED CLEM
NT CH ROCKY TOP CHERRY

The pups that started this post have been removed for sale. It sounds like the pups were not as represented . I don't know the details but I don't think a dog that is predominantly black should be registered as a Redbone. I don't care if they have black mussel or lots of black hair blended in their coat. I think predominantly red should be the standard. If you see a dog at 10 yards and think it's a black and tan it shouldn't be registered as a Redbone .
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Home of:
GRNITECH GRCH PRUITT'S REBEL RED(GRNITECH GRCH PR KEYS OUTLAW RAZOR RED XGRCH CCH TREE RIZIN SOME KINDA WONDERFUL)
GRNITECH PRUITT'S BUCK (NITE CHAMPION PRUITT'S CHIEF X PRUITT'S MISS MOLLY)
NITE CHAMPION PRUITT'S CHIEF ( GRCH GRNITECH T-TOP DARK TIMBER MOOSE CH SOGGYBOTTOM LOCKET DOWN )
NITECH CH 'PR' TREE RIZIN' RAZOR'S RUSH ( RIP )(GRNITECH GRCH' KEY'S OUTLAW RAZOR RED X GRNITECH GRCH'PR' SOGGY BOTTOM T-TOP SHADOW)
NITECH PRUITT'S MAGGIE MAE (GRNITECH THE RED ROCKER X GRNITECH CH PR GUITAR'S GHOST MISSISSIPPI )
PRUITT'S MISS MOLLY ( CH YELLOW RIVER RED COPPER X FICKEN'S LATE NIGHT STAR )