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Posted by moleman on 09-28-2016 09:04 PM:

Ok,i seen the Sue and Randy thrown in the mix and it threw me for a loop.

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Posted by novicane65 on 09-28-2016 11:52 PM:

So how many do you find in hemlock trees?

How many times does your dog tree on a pine?

How thick is the timber your hunting?

What about undergrowth?

The reason I'm asking these questions are you'd never have plus points here otherwise. The trees are tight together. And saplings that make it tough to shine. And the trees are tall.


Posted by thomasg on 09-29-2016 12:00 AM:

need a coon hunting monkey with a pistol .lol


Posted by novicane65 on 09-29-2016 12:55 AM:

I'd definitely take one. Just saying. There's reasons for the circle trees. It's not to hide a slick tree'er. It to give the honest dog the benefit of the doubt.


Posted by Calicooner on 09-29-2016 01:08 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by novicane65
So how many do you find in hemlock trees?

How many times does your dog tree on a pine?

How thick is the timber your hunting?

What about undergrowth?

The reason I'm asking these questions are you'd never have plus points here otherwise. The trees are tight together. And saplings that make it tough to shine. And the trees are tall.



I agree with you we have a spot here in California that has tall trees with black berries covering the ground and grapes in the canopy connecting all the trees it's hard enough just to get to the tree and seeing a coon is impossible.
But I wouldn't take a cast there.


Posted by novicane65 on 09-29-2016 01:23 AM:

I'm not saying there isn't places here that aren't more open. But all of my hunting spots are thick like that. And some even thicker. You know it's bad when you have to tone your dog off a tree that's in a briar patch/ Russian olive.


Posted by SwampCreekHound on 09-29-2016 02:07 AM:

I am not a comp hunter so my opinion don't matter but i hunt 3 to 7 nights a week year round. I can count on one hand the number of trees i said that my dog is slick at the truck and i was proved wrong at the tree in the last year. Not to say every tree had a coon but at times you just know that they know there slick. My dogs have treed on many trees i couldn't shine the way i want or see up the tree at all. If i don't see a coon when any of my dogs are not treeing like i know they normally do no matter if its a 40 foot pine or a light pole they get punished the same. The only problem i see with circle trees is dishonest handlers not hounds. I don't comp hunt do to some handlers aren't honest to there self or choose to circle a tree they know from there dogs actions to be slick or vote against the man who is winning to get ahead. Like my Pa always said a man that lies to his self will never be honest to you.


Posted by MR.RATMAN on 09-30-2016 01:21 AM:

I just can't wait for the leaves to come off because when they come off I can be 100% sure if its slick or not and I'm going to be giving my dog some education's. I would say 40% of his trees now are slick, but I'm not about to educate him with leaves on when there is a possibility of a coon as we all know how hard it is to find a coon in the summer.

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Posted by jdgher on 09-30-2016 09:01 AM:

Be careful

Some trees the coons don't look, some trees you just don't see them and some trees are empty.
Before you correct a dog for being slick you better know for sure the tree is empty. Period.
I've seen a few very experienced handlers correct a dog and later see the coon.
Not good at all.

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Posted by cain99 on 09-30-2016 01:35 PM:

If he's home you will find him IMO! We have came up with so many things to find them from thermal imaging to lasers on our lights, squallers that make them bail out of the tree & get them to come out of dens, it drives them so crazy ! ! ! I believe if he is there you will most likely find him, sometimes it is not the case. But leaves are starting to fall so that means y'all can't circle them now.... ;> )

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Posted by bsearless on 09-30-2016 02:06 PM:

thermal

i actually just purchased a thermal yesterday to try out. and i promise you i found 2 out of 4 coon last night that 100% i could not have found with my light in under 20 minutes. maybe i could have squalled and the coon would have moved around in the tree and i would have seen em but other that that he was a slick or circle without the thermal.

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Posted by JiM on 09-30-2016 02:12 PM:

Re: thermal

quote:
Originally posted by bsearless
i actually just purchased a thermal yesterday to try out. and i promise you i found 2 out of 4 coon last night that 100% i could not have found with my light in under 20 minutes. maybe i could have squalled and the coon would have moved around in the tree and i would have seen em but other that that he was a slick or circle without the thermal.


What kind did you buy?

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Posted by bsearless on 09-30-2016 03:11 PM:

thermal

i purchased an FLIR

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Posted by Night Shift on 09-30-2016 04:26 PM:

Which model

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Posted by bsearless on 09-30-2016 06:19 PM:

scoutIII

Mine is the Scout 3. I can look at model number and everything on the box when i get home. Im going to try to take a few pics with it tonight.

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