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Posted by TomPurdy on 08-11-2016 09:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dbpro56
Tom, most of your argument is based on opinion! What was he supposed to say about his sister, she would suck at being a judge? Maybe, just maybe, he will replace some of those liberal Supreme Court judges with conservative leaning judges! If you've never changed your mind on anything, or have never had a change of heart, then I would say you have every right to question Trumps "evolving", on his past views! But, if you've changed your mind on anything from your past, why is it ok for you, and not Donald Trump? I know with life experience, I've changed my way of thinking on many issues!


Bruce, this is the problem with Trump, and why it will be almost impossible for him to win. He has turned brother against brother. The republican party is in the middle of a civil war. This time last cycle you and I where on here together fighting liberals. This time around Trump has turned us on each other. His only hope is Hillary is so so bad!

Bruce, in response to your post, I can find very little opinion in my argument. Is it fact or opinion that he said his sister would make a phenmonial judge? If he was worried about starting failmy strife how about not saying anything at all. Saying she would be phenmonial is a bit of a stretch, if your a conservative. Is it fact or opinion that he said Hillary would make a great president? Is it fact or opinion that he invited Bill and Hillary to his wedding? Is it fact or opinion that he gave money to Hillary' presidential campagin fund? Bruce the list goes on and on. There is no opinion in it.

It is possible that Trump has changed his mind in the last 2 yrs. However, I'm very, very skeptical of a politican who has lived as a liberal for 50 plus years. Then all the sudden 2 years before running for president as a conservative has suddenly evolved, and I am in no way ready to hand him the keys to the country. He might appoint conservative judges, but then again he might not. Who's going to stop him if he resorts back to his liberal agenda his own party? I would rather fight my enemies than become more like them.


Posted by Hey Preacher!!! on 08-11-2016 09:09 PM:

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Originally posted by GA DAWG
I kinda liked McCain but he didn't stand a chance.


McCain is even more liberal then Trump on most issues.

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 08-11-2016 09:29 PM:

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Originally posted by TomPurdy
I am in no way ready to hand him the keys to the country.


But your ready to hand them over to Hillary it seems, by spending time each and every day putting down the only person that could beat her?

One thing about Trump... NOBODY that has had dealings with him says he is a liar. He does what he says he's going to do.

If you actually read Trumps proposals how could you possibly not vote for him over a socialist/communist.

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Posted by TomPurdy on 08-11-2016 09:35 PM:

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Originally posted by Well Started
Tom I can respect that, I was in the exact same boat. If we were voting for who was going to be a 1 man show dictator, I would still be in the exact spot. I've now resigned myself to vote on 1 issue. Babies. I don't trust Trump as our leader, don't like him as a possible President. But he has a few around him that I line up with and I think would push the issue. If the Planned Parenthood debacle can at least be hamstringed somewhat, verses how Hillary will work to expand it, then I'll try to make my vote count against her. I wont vote for the man but I'll vote for that issue. If just 1 is saved compared to a Hillary administration, then if gives me something worth voting for. Take that away and I'm out.


Well Started, I respect that! I personally vote ALWAYS on one issue first, and that issue is LIFE!! If I knew it would turn out that way I would to. I'm afraid that Trump will do more harm than good for the pro-life movement, but I respect your concern!!


Posted by TomPurdy on 08-11-2016 09:41 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
But your ready to hand them over to Hillary it seems, by spending time each and every day putting down the only person that could beat her?

One thing about Trump... NOBODY that has had dealings with him says he is a liar. He does what he says he's going to do.

If you actually read Trumps proposals how could you possibly not vote for him over a socialist/communist.



Trevor, here's the problem. I don't want either one of them with the keys!! That's why I'm not voting for either!!

I've never dealt with Trump, but I sure can tell you he lied in the last 2 weeks! Ask the NFL, IRS and so on.

I can't vote for him because he supported the socialiast/communist. That's what it boils down to.


Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 08-11-2016 09:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by TomPurdy
Trevor, here's the problem. I don't want either one of them with the keys!! That's why I'm not voting for either!!

I've never dealt with Trump, but I sure can tell you he lied in the last 2 weeks! Ask the NFL, IRS and so on.

I can't vote for him because he supported the socialiast/communist. That's what it boils down to.



By looking at his voting record it seems like he's always voted straight Republican when he's actually voted and was a huge Romney supporter last go around.

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Posted by GA DAWG on 08-11-2016 09:45 PM:

He's sure blowing my poll on Coonhounds page away. Dang. It's amazing. Who would of thunk it? Hahaha. I don't see how he's winning every poll I've saw out there.

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Posted by BornAganBeagler on 08-11-2016 10:12 PM:

The commrnt about turning brother against brother and civil war within the republican party is true to an extent but why is it acceptable to vote someone in and find out they lie cheat and steal but cant get rid of them. Why is it unacceptable to call out someone even if its within the republican party. I had an uncle that stole the family farm from his brothers and sisters and everyone just knew it and let it go for 30 plus years but when one brother decided to build a house on the farm and the thieving brother didnt want it to happen then the fight was on and guess who the family turned against? They didnt turn on the brother that stole they turned on the one wanting his 75 acre that was left to him by my grandpa. Some are turning on trump when they should be turning on these congress lifers that make 175 grand a year and own 3 million dollar homes in three or four states.


Posted by ringtail on 08-12-2016 12:21 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hey Preacher!!!
Why question my faith? Why would you even ask the question?

Do you not believe God knew I would wonder about the above mentioned issue? Do you not believe God had a hand in me being concerned about the same issue? Do you think God doesn't know what it would take open the eyes of some about Trump's apparent misunderstanding that all human life is inherently valuable and should be respected, appreciated, and protected, not just the "superstars" of this world?

Do you believe God didn't know how many, including myself, would be affected by Trump's choice of words?

Why question me?



I'm questioning you or your faith. I am no different than you. I read your post and started thinking, something in my heart put those questions to me. I stopped wondering and felt I should send them to you.

I think you interpreted my reply wrong, I guess I didn't do a good job replying. If I offended you, I apologize, that was not my intent. I apparently failed to say what God wanted me to say.

I truly believe your heart is with God. I know mine is, and when I get off track he reminds me.

We are in terrible times right now. God's word has told us how it will end.

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Posted by Hey Preacher!!! on 08-12-2016 01:50 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ringtail
I'm questioning you or your faith. I am no different than you. I read your post and started thinking, something in my heart put those questions to me. I stopped wondering and felt I should send them to you.

I think you interpreted my reply wrong, I guess I didn't do a good job replying. If I offended you, I apologize, that was not my intent. I apparently failed to say what God wanted me to say.

I truly believe your heart is with God. I know mine is, and when I get off track he reminds me.

We are in terrible times right now. God's word has told us how it will end.



No worries! I wasn't offended at all. I was simply using the same logic (question = doubting God's sovereignty).

My point in my original question was directed at Trump's choice of words. When he made the "superstar" comment, much like the statement about John McCain, "I like people who weren't captured", it came across as insulting and leads one to believe he only prefers those who meet certain standards. That is hardly a pro life position.

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Posted by TomPurdy on 08-12-2016 02:56 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
By looking at his voting record it seems like he's always voted straight Republican when he's actually voted and was a huge Romney supporter last go around.


That's a valid point Trevor! However if you followed his money, and mouth it would appear he's a huge Hillary supporter.


Posted by GA DAWG on 08-12-2016 06:40 AM:

Trump is leading poll 5 to 1. If my membership wasn't lapsed.Id post it on prohound to. See how the other side votes.

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Posted by dbpro56 on 08-12-2016 02:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by TomPurdy
Bruce, this is the problem with Trump, and why it will be almost impossible for him to win. He has turned brother against brother. The republican party is in the middle of a civil war. This time last cycle you and I where on here together fighting liberals. This time around Trump has turned us on each other. His only hope is Hillary is so so bad!

Bruce, in response to your post, I can find very little opinion in my argument. Is it fact or opinion that he said his sister would make a phenmonial judge? If he was worried about starting failmy strife how about not saying anything at all. Saying she would be phenmonial is a bit of a stretch, if your a conservative. Is it fact or opinion that he said Hillary would make a great president? Is it fact or opinion that he invited Bill and Hillary to his wedding? Is it fact or opinion that he gave money to Hillary' presidential campagin fund? Bruce the list goes on and on. There is no opinion in it.



It is possible that Trump has changed his mind in the last 2 yrs. However, I'm very, very skeptical of a politican who has lived as a liberal for 50 plus years. Then all the sudden 2 years before running for president as a conservative has suddenly evolved, and I am in no way ready to hand him the keys to the country. He might appoint conservative judges, but then again he might not. Who's going to stop him if he resorts back to his liberal agenda his own party? I would rather fight my enemies than become more like them.



Tom, I know the quality of your character. It doesn't get much better than you. We may disagree on some politics, but never to the point where I think any less of you. I absolutely hate arguing, or discussing politics, because it's a no win situation. I'm just terrified of what's happening in America, and it's beginning to look like there's no turning it around. Donald Trump says lots of things I completely disagree with, but Hillary Clinton is a career politician, who got to be a multi-millionaire while in office. When I see career politicians on the GOP side doing everything in their power to stop Trump, that just makes me want to do all I can for his campaign!

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Posted by TomPurdy on 08-13-2016 02:46 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by dbpro56
Tom, I know the quality of your character. It doesn't get much better than you. We may disagree on some politics, but never to the point where I think any less of you. I absolutely hate arguing, or discussing politics, because it's a no win situation. I'm just terrified of what's happening in America, and it's beginning to look like there's no turning it around. Donald Trump says lots of things I completely disagree with, but Hillary Clinton is a career politician, who got to be a multi-millionaire while in office. When I see career politicians on the GOP side doing everything in their power to stop Trump, that just makes me want to do all I can for his campaign!


Bruce, I appreciate you on every level, and respect you even more!!! I am proud to call you my friend!!! Their is nothing personal at ALL, just ask my mother we had this very same debate!!! LOL! To me what this shows is two American brothers who care very, very deeply about the path their country is on. With two differnt views on how to fix it. What there is no debate about. Is that You and I want whats best for the country we both love!!! Can you imagine the discussions (debates) the founding fathers must of had? I bet that was intense, but never with out respect for those of a differnent view!


Posted by TomPurdy on 08-13-2016 02:46 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by dbpro56
Tom, I know the quality of your character. It doesn't get much better than you. We may disagree on some politics, but never to the point where I think any less of you. I absolutely hate arguing, or discussing politics, because it's a no win situation. I'm just terrified of what's happening in America, and it's beginning to look like there's no turning it around. Donald Trump says lots of things I completely disagree with, but Hillary Clinton is a career politician, who got to be a multi-millionaire while in office. When I see career politicians on the GOP side doing everything in their power to stop Trump, that just makes me want to do all I can for his campaign!


Bruce, I appreciate you on every level, and respect you even more!!! I am proud to call you my friend!!! Their is nothing personal at ALL, just ask my mother we had this very same debate!!! LOL! To me what this shows is two American brothers who care very, very deeply about the path their country is on. With two differnt views on how to fix it. What there is no debate about. Is that You and I want whats best for the country we both love!!! Can you imagine the discussions (debates) the founding fathers must of had? I bet that was intense, but never with out respect for those of a differnent view!


Posted by dbpro56 on 08-13-2016 03:41 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by TomPurdy
Bruce, I appreciate you on every level, and respect you even more!!! I am proud to call you my friend!!! Their is nothing personal at ALL, just ask my mother we had this very same debate!!! LOL! To me what this shows is two American brothers who care very, very deeply about the path their country is on. With two differnt views on how to fix it. What there is no debate about. Is that You and I want whats best for the country we both love!!! Can you imagine the discussions (debates) the founding fathers must of had? I bet that was intense, but never with out respect for those of a differnent view!


You are to right Tom. If I'm not mistaken, didn't the have duels back those days? Now, we just have smart phones and computers. Are you doing any hunting? I'm working my way back, slowly but surely.

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Posted by TomPurdy on 08-14-2016 12:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dbpro56
You are to right Tom. If I'm not mistaken, didn't the have duels back those days? Now, we just have smart phones and computers. Are you doing any hunting? I'm working my way back, slowly but surely.


LOL! Bruce, that is true! Now we can just tap around on our computer. I've lost all credibility when I tell my kids get off of the phone.LOL! I have been huntin, not hard but consistent. I have hunted a couple HTX hunts this summer, but that's all. Don't have the dog power for anything else. We need to get together here on of these nights. Do you still have Cannon?


Posted by thomasg on 08-15-2016 04:11 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
He is trying to lose the election. That much is obvious. Why would he want to lose to Clinton?
HE IS JUST A SIDE SHOW FOR A ELECTION THAT WAS DECIDED BEFORE IT EVER BEGAIN .


Posted by dbpro56 on 08-15-2016 03:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by TomPurdy
LOL! Bruce, that is true! Now we can just tap around on our computer. I've lost all credibility when I tell my kids get off of the phone.LOL! I have been huntin, not hard but consistent. I have hunted a couple HTX hunts this summer, but that's all. Don't have the dog power for anything else. We need to get together here on of these nights. Do you still have Cannon?


I sold Cannon not long after Crickett died. He went to New York, and the fella that bought him Granded him out. He only lost one Night Ch. cast, and that was because the guy lost him for over a hour, and got scratched. He was sitting on over 900+ when he lost him. He found him treed, sittin under a coon. I am in partners on a young female that's pretty nice.My buddy hunts her, and maybe you can come over our way some night. He's got some pretty good hunting. What are you hunting, something out of Rambler? I got a puppy too, she's almost 3 months old. Heavy Dancer bred.

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Posted by TomPurdy on 08-15-2016 05:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dbpro56
I sold Cannon not long after Crickett died. He went to New York, and the fella that bought him Granded him out. He only lost one Night Ch. cast, and that was because the guy lost him for over a hour, and got scratched. He was sitting on over 900+ when he lost him. He found him treed, sittin under a coon. I am in partners on a young female that's pretty nice.My buddy hunts her, and maybe you can come over our way some night. He's got some pretty good hunting. What are you hunting, something out of Rambler? I got a puppy too, she's almost 3 months old. Heavy Dancer bred.


I thought you had sold him. I wish he was closer than NY, I would have liked to breed my female to him. She is getting long in the tooth that might have been a good cross.

I'd love to come up some night! I just got a female out of Rambler this summer, but have not hunted her. I've just been hunting my old female. I like that Dancer line. I saw a female out of Powder /Rambler was way up in the state standings. I saw a picture of her at the medway club good lookin dog. Does Jake hunt her?


Posted by dbpro56 on 08-16-2016 06:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by TomPurdy
I thought you had sold him. I wish he was closer than NY, I would have liked to breed my female to him. She is getting long in the tooth that might have been a good cross.

I'd love to come up some night! I just got a female out of Rambler this summer, but have not hunted her. I've just been hunting my old female. I like that Dancer line. I saw a female out of Powder /Rambler was way up in the state standings. I saw a picture of her at the medway club good lookin dog. Does Jake hunt her?



That females name is Breezy! Jimmy Wills owns her. I think Jake has hunted her in a few hunts, but I believe Austin Terrell hunts her mostly. I don't think she was even hunted, till she was about a year or a year and a half old. I know you'll find this hard to believe, but she's a good looking sucker. I bet the Republican would have been something special too! The guy that owns Cannon has done everything in the world to get a pup out of him. They think he's sterile.

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Posted by TomPurdy on 08-18-2016 01:09 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by dbpro56
That females name is Breezy! Jimmy Wills owns her. I think Jake has hunted her in a few hunts, but I believe Austin Terrell hunts her mostly. I don't think she was even hunted, till she was about a year or a year and a half old. I know you'll find this hard to believe, but she's a good looking sucker. I bet the Republican would have been something special too! The guy that owns Cannon has done everything in the world to get a pup out of him. They think he's sterile.


Man that's too bad Bruce! Has he ever sired a litter? He's got to be getting some age on him, how old is he?


Posted by dbpro56 on 08-18-2016 04:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by TomPurdy
Man that's too bad Bruce! Has he ever sired a litter? He's got to be getting some age on him, how old is he?


He's 8 years old. Yeah, he started getting hunted way more than when I had him, he got down to a good hunting weight, and really turned into a top hound. Everything he did was natural stuff. He even got to where he didn't tree opossums anymore. I think that fella is still trying to breed him. He lost him hunting one night, and 3 days later the farmer called and ask him did he lose a dog! The land owner said he could here a dog treeing somewhere, but didn't know where it was coming from exactly. They found him inside a big hollow tree, still treeing. He said that coon was only about 10 feet above his head. Said when they pulled him out, they thought he should have easily been able to free himself from that tree, but he stayed. When he got him out, he said he fell to the ground, and just laid there. But he recovered quickly, after some food and rest! That dog had a lot of heart in him!

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Posted by Stan Ferrell on 08-18-2016 05:10 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by TomPurdy
Well Started, I respect that! I personally vote ALWAYS on one issue first, and that issue is LIFE!! If I knew it would turn out that way I would to. I'm afraid that Trump will do more harm than good for the pro-life movement, but I respect your concern!!
So it would only make sence to vote for the party who has "unlimited abortions" on their official party platform. Rrrrriiigggggghhhtttttt. That's some powerful cypherin there.


Posted by Well Started on 08-18-2016 09:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ed zachary
So it would only make sence to vote for the party who has "unlimited abortions" on their official party platform. Rrrrriiigggggghhhtttttt. That's some powerful cypherin there.


Pretty sure Tom will either not vote for the Presidential candidates, or cast a write in vote. Doubt you could pay him enough to cast a vote for Hillary.


Not saying I wont do the same. I'm still back and forth. Trumps 2 week tail spin after the convention which can only be described as either intentional, or from the mindset of a 3 yr old, along with his now hiring a new campaign CEO who is 1 nasty individual, has done nothing to garner my favor. There's only so much craziness and lack of character a person can go along with and be able to sleep at night.

I will vote on all down ticket candidates and do my best to protect and fight against the devils among us. But my final decision on Trump is a daily struggle.


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