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Posted by yadkintar on 06-05-2015 05:27 PM:

Believe me if I tell you to stay put and keep your light of you better do it and I am going into that tree with my light off with catching that mean dog and scratching him on my mind I don't like a mean dog I won't tolerate very little of it !!!!!!

Posted by wildbill on 06-05-2015 10:24 PM:

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I would a lot rather catch the dog and write him up than fire a warning shot so the handler can withdraw and take his mean dog someplace else....that is called judging. What you describe is called "giving him another chance."

I think you read what he said too fast and missed a few words..lol

he was saying same thing you said.

that's what I did back in the day when I was stuck with judgeing and they always put me on a card where they might be a bad dog., most time the bad dog knew it was being bad and would be watching for light or listing for noises comeing into tree,most time the dry leaves would give you away,,

most time when word got out you would be writeing a bad dog up,,,in my case the handlers would be withdrawing before we left the clubhouse and we would have a good hunt and being judge an guide my cast would almost always be 1st 2nd place winner if was a real live coondog was in the cast.

where I used to hunt if a dog didn't strike a real live coon in 3-5 minutes something was wrong with the dogs or was hunting in downpouring rain..

I wont put up with a mean dog,mine or anyone elses.
I put all male dogs in same side of box together and females in other side,,i/we hunt 3-5 dogs at time and if they any noise in the dog box I open the door and insert a #12d cowboy boot or steeltoed workboot.

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Posted by msinc on 06-06-2015 02:24 AM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by wildbill
[B]I think you read what he said too fast and missed a few words..lol

No, I think you left out the part I was talking about...

"I will be back in a minute then a lot of times the handler with the bad dog would withdraw"

If you fire a warning shot...tell him you are now seriously going to try and catch his dog and write him up for fighting.....then allow him to withdraw BEFORE you can catch him, that in part is letting him get away with it.

I have done something similar, at the beginning of the hunt if someone asks "does your dog run deer??" I usually say yep, smoke 'em, and have had guys withdraw their trashy dogs. Then go on and have a good hunt. I believe there is a point with a mean dog where, just as you say, at the clubhouse if the judge tells everyone he will not play with any mean dogs, they are going to be out and out fast, a handler withdraws before the hunt starts then it is O.K. That handler decided not to cut loose a dog that might hurt someone else's dog. It is not O.K. to go ahead and enter, turn loose and try it....my point is, why make it so they can do just that????

Posted by yadkintar on 06-06-2015 12:43 PM:

With the way it is now days a lot has changed they don't think there is nothing wrong with dogs getting into it at the tree so if you go into the tree by yourself and scratch the aggressor ( if your a good judge you should) then you know what's next your in for about an hour or more of drama so if they withdraw its almost a blessing lol!!!!

Posted by wrinkletreeknls on 06-06-2015 02:54 PM:

ok guys i just want to reitterate a few things, we were scaling down a highwall, i was in the middle of everyone to keep a maintainable pace, we were 200 yards from the tree and it was over as quick as it started. sorry if this is bad judging, but if ppl want to complain about it, then they should start volunteering, i would rather be able to justify a decision on the spot from the scorecard than i would have to say oh its in the advisor at the house

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Posted by msinc on 06-06-2015 03:03 PM:

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Originally posted by wrinkletreeknls
ok guys i just want to reitterate a few things, we were scaling down a highwall, i was in the middle of everyone to keep a maintainable pace, we were 200 yards from the tree and it was over as quick as it started. sorry if this is bad judging, but if ppl want to complain about it, then they should start volunteering, i would rather be able to justify a decision on the spot from the scorecard than i would have to say oh its in the advisor at the house

There is no bad judging to this scenario...believe me, not too many guys know better than me that each time you go in the woods something different happens and there is no concrete cut in stone answer...if there was every one would be a judge, guide or master of hounds. In the last several posts we were talking about "best way" or "ideal" handling of various situations. It can sound so cut and dried when we write about things, but the fact remains, when you are not there it is easy to say, "Oh, what ya shoulda done was....." Or my other favorite, "Simple, all ya gotta do is......"

Posted by yadkintar on 06-06-2015 03:37 PM:

Some dogs that have never had a problem in they're life the first time they get together they have problems people are the same way but we're the difference is when it happens the handler is truly sorry and try's to apologize for it happening or the old boy that gives you that gives you that big smirk and says I won't have one that don't stay or say I didn't hear or see nothing !!!

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