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Posted by HOBO on 05-29-2015 02:30 AM:

When you use a bucket for sour corn you don't cut any holes in the bucket, fasten the bucket to the side of a tree on the ground fill 1/2 to 3/4 with corn then fill with water.

You don't have to soar the corn David.. BUT when you do coon are one of the few that will still eat it.

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Posted by walkerman75 on 05-29-2015 05:54 AM:

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Another PERFECT example of why "hunt records" would be SO great. Please go read my thread about "but how many hunts did it take ?? ".

how would a hunt record be good in this situation. you want the cast to right a paper to atach to records saying dog won hunting on a feeder bucket...

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Posted by Jason Baldwin on 05-29-2015 06:15 AM:

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Originally posted by walkerman75
how would a hunt record be good in this situation. you want the cast to right a paper to atach to records saying dog won hunting on a feeder bucket...

No of course not. I'm talking about patterns.

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Posted by Jason Baldwin on 05-29-2015 06:18 AM:

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Originally posted by GA DAWG
And why cant a possum reach in and get corn out of a hole? Ive never heard that.

My pup would tree possums but possums just weren't there. The way I understand it, a possum cannot use there hands like a coon can.

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Posted by GA DAWG on 05-29-2015 07:19 AM:

I have a feist dog that has treed hundreds of possum. Hes my possum thinning machine. You got possums. He will tree em and only possums and hes never missed! I mean ever.

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Posted by msinc on 05-29-2015 08:02 AM:

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Originally posted by Jason Baldwin
My pup would tree possums but possums just weren't there. The way I understand it, a possum cannot use there hands like a coon can.

If they weren't there i'd bet it wasn't because they are unable to reach in a hole and grab a handful of food. You might have some bad info...an opossum has a thumb and are considered higher up the evolution ladder than a raccoon, and many other animals for that matter.

Posted by Jason Baldwin on 05-29-2015 08:53 AM:

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If they weren't there i'd bet it wasn't because they are unable to reach in a hole and grab a handful of food. You might have some bad info...an opossum has a thumb and are considered higher up the evolution ladder than a raccoon, and many other animals for that matter.

Can a possum climb head first down a tree ? I disagree. I don't think a possum can do it.

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Posted by HOBO on 05-29-2015 10:49 AM:

When I use to have buckets out I've seen possums on them.

Posted by Black LICK on 05-30-2015 03:53 AM:

lazy hunting....hate seeing plastic buckets hanging in the wild...why not plant some berry patches or mulberry trees...also I think it is changing our wildlife....like the bear that hit the garbage....just an opinion....yes I am aware the coon come to houses to cat food or dog food bowls left out...and that's the point.....lets keep the wild stuff wild...just a thought.

Posted by walkerman75 on 05-30-2015 06:16 AM:

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Originally posted by Black LICK
lazy hunting....hate seeing plastic buckets hanging in the wild...why not plant some berry patches or mulberry trees...also I think it is changing our wildlife....like the bear that hit the garbage....just an opinion....yes I am aware the coon come to houses to cat food or dog food bowls left out...and that's the point.....lets keep the wild stuff wild...just a thought.

what state do you live in

Posted by pamjohnson on 05-30-2015 01:14 PM:

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Originally posted by GA DAWG
I have a feist dog that has treed hundreds of possum. Hes my possum thinning machine. You got possums. He will tree em and only possums and hes never missed! I mean ever.

sounds like a lot of fun. some underestimate good fun hunting.

Posted by pamjohnson on 05-30-2015 01:27 PM:

sour corn

when using a bucket for wet corn just dig a hole in the ground half as deep as bucket put the bucket in the hole. fill the bucket half full of corn the rest of the way with water. its that simple. not sure this will wok well if u have bears. but im sure it works for coon easy to fill n take care of. no deer opposum squirrel problems as long as u keep the water higher than the corn level.

Posted by deschmidt27 on 06-01-2015 02:28 PM:

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Originally posted by Black LICK
lazy hunting....hate seeing plastic buckets hanging in the wild...why not plant some berry patches or mulberry trees...also I think it is changing our wildlife....like the bear that hit the garbage....just an opinion....yes I am aware the coon come to houses to cat food or dog food bowls left out...and that's the point.....lets keep the wild stuff wild...just a thought.

I used to think the same way, until I moved down here! I thought everyone just thought they had it tougher than someone else, which meant their dogs must be better. But the truth is, it is just that bad. Up North, you could hunt a 5 acre patch, with literally 12 coon in it. Down here, it could be 50 acres with one coon in it! My dogs are grubbing up tracks and treeing it a 1/2 mile to mile away, and I'm told that I'm doing well! So, if you are professional coon hunter with plenty of time on your hands, then spend all night looking for that one coon! But if you have a job to get to early in the morning, or a pup to train, then a couple feeder buckets to get coon to hang out at a specific end of the 50 acres, is probably not a bad idea!

Again, it may be only one coon or one travelling a long ways, so it's not like they're hanging out there all night! Some hit the bucket at dusk, some at 3 in the morning, and they're not they're for more than a half hour, so it's not exactly lazy hunting. It's not like you pull up and they scatter!

And yes, you could plant a raspberry or mulberry bush, but that only feeds something for a few weeks., what do you do for the other 49? It's sort of like food plots, where folks rationalize how that's "natural" and a pile of corn isn't... really??? Is a bulldozed section in the middle of the woods, with clover growing in it, really "natural"??? Is the only mulberry bush for miles around, conveniently located on my property, really any different than a feeder bucket full of corn in that same spot? If it's man-made... it's technically not "natural", so should we be splitting hairs?

And speaking of "natural"... what is "natural" for a raccoon? I'm pretty sure coon all over this country, have been eating man's garbage and left-overs, for as long as there has been man around. You could hunt that 50 acres, full of acorns, cherries and mulberries, but I'm willing to bet that from time to time, you'll run one that crosses the road to check out that subdivision!

Bottom line... choose to use them if you want, for the right reasons, or choose to not use them. But don't cast judgement and call others lazy...

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Posted by HOBO on 06-01-2015 03:46 PM:

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Originally posted by deschmidt27

Bottom line... choose to use them if you want, for the right reasons, or choose to not use them. But don't cast judgement and call others lazy...

Well said David.

Posted by Joel martin on 06-01-2015 03:53 PM:

I agree

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Posted by msinc on 06-01-2015 04:01 PM:

I also agree with Mr. Schmidt...I can assure anyone that if there was enough "wild" stuff around here...I for darn certain would not be catering to the raccoons!!!!!! It wasn't always like this, I can remember back in the 80's going out and treeing as many as 7 in one night. Now, even with ideal conditions and feeders I am lucky if I tree that many in one week. Take away the feeders and I seriously doubt I would tree half that and probably get not too far along with young dogs.

Posted by walkerman75 on 06-01-2015 06:09 PM:

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Originally posted by msinc
I also agree with Mr. Schmidt...I can assure anyone that if there was enough "wild" stuff around here...I for darn certain would not be catering to the raccoons!!!!!! It wasn't always like this, I can remember back in the 80's going out and treeing as many as 7 in one night. Now, even with ideal conditions and feeders I am lucky if I tree that many in one week. Take away the feeders and I seriously doubt I would tree half that and probably get not too far along with young dogs.

agree 100 percent..

back 30 yrs ago. coons were plentiful here. an hydes were bringing 30 an 40 bucks, an people that didnt even own a dog were coonhunting off 4 wheelers. just riding fields an shooting them. an with that being done 7 nights a week. it wasnt long till they was hard to find

Posted by msinc on 06-01-2015 11:29 PM:

You know, you gotta wonder what modern farming practices do to the coon {really any wildlife} populations....ever walk out into a freshly combined corn or bean field??? There is not a single kernel or bean of anything left behind!!! This modern farm machinery don't miss or leave behind nothing. Even the fodder is ground up to just about nothing and it don't lay there a day or two before it is disc' under and replanted in another crop.

Posted by shadinc on 06-01-2015 11:39 PM:

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Originally posted by Jason Baldwin
Can a possum climb head first down a tree ? I disagree. I don't think a possum can do it.

I can't climb down a tree head first. Does that put me lower on the evolutionary scale than a possum?

Posted by Black LICK on 06-01-2015 11:44 PM:

I choose not......BUT then I'm just a girl so what do I know... Sorry if I upset anyone. Tree my dog on aisle #10......

Posted by msinc on 06-01-2015 11:52 PM:

Make no mistake, a possum can definitely climb down a tree head first. In fact, with their prehensile tail and thumb it is acknowledged that they can climb better than a coon. Not necessarily faster, but more agile and effective.

Posted by walkerman75 on 06-01-2015 11:55 PM:

black lick

do you hunt coon were they feed.. do you hunt on cornfields. an when cherrys are on do you hunt there..

around here we dont have alot of cornfields. we have to put a plastic bucket out to create a food sorce.. if i owned all the places i hunt yes i would plant for the animals. but i dont own them spots. so to my origanal question. were do you hunt at ,, the food sorce or there den tree. cuz i much rather look at a coon then his house...

Posted by Joel martin on 06-01-2015 11:59 PM:

We have no mulberrys or corn fields nothing. Do get grapes in certain areas but that's it.

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Posted by AppalachianBlue on 06-02-2015 12:01 AM:

What wild? There ain't no such thing anymore. True wild.

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Posted by walkerman75 on 06-02-2015 12:09 AM:

what gets me is people that have 100 acre cornfields to hunt an hunt on say a feeder bucket full of corn is wrong.. never did understand the difference

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