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Posted by Cleo on 02-15-2015 07:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
I dont think it is the hate on lipper. Lipper threw tons of good hounds, lots of stud dogs, and had a major impact on the walker breed. Everyone knows that.

I think the disdain came from all the hype and promotion this litter got, future world champs, dominate PKC, etc......all before they were ever put in the woods.

Than they were never entered into a hunt to speak of until Tom started hunting impact recently.



I understand. Thanks for explaining that.

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Posted by Mike Van Dusen on 02-15-2015 07:20 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Triple K Kennels:

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Originally posted by The Seeker
Clover won a hunt to make him NT Ch. There was a question on another cast and when the UKC Ruled on the question (not sure how long it took) Clover had 4 wins to Grand. They took the 1st place win away from Clover and a dog in another cast was awarded 1st place. His 4 wins for Grand were also taken away. Clover was never entered in another UKC hunt and went on to make his name in PKC.


That is what I was saying in an earlier post, guess I wasn't clear enough for triple K ........
I have been told by people who know, Stylish Clover or "Whitey" might of been the best "coondog" to ever mash mud, I respect the people who told me that and what he reproduced in the stud pen, I have a grandson of his in my kennel, and sure have enjoyed him here for about 9 years......

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Posted by Josh Michaelis on 02-17-2015 12:44 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Triple K Kennels:

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Originally posted by Mike Van Dusen
That is what I was saying in an earlier post, guess I wasn't clear enough for triple K ........
I have been told by people who know, Stylish Clover or "Whitey" might of been the best "coondog" to ever mash mud, I respect the people who told me that and what he reproduced in the stud pen, I have a grandson of his in my kennel, and sure have enjoyed him here for about 9 years......



I have never heard a bad word about whitey, and that is a rarity in the coonhunting world.

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Posted by NiteHeat on 04-08-2015 04:33 PM:

bump

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Posted by Fisher13 on 04-09-2015 11:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Josh Michaelis
I think what he is trying to say is that if these dogs were real quality hounds (and they may be) why not put them in a hunt before you put them in the stud barn.

Credit to Tom for putting Impact in some quality hunts. Seen him at the Lone Star and I see he was at the CHKC truck hunt this weekend. Personally I wouldn't breed to a dog that couldn't win in PKC or CHKC



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Nite heat if there throwing traits similar to lipper, which I believe tom has claimed that they are. They should be good lookinleggy hounds, wide hard and fast hunting, fast track dogs, with big loud lipper mouth.

Jay has a lot of knowledge, and I'm sure will be happy to help you out, just shoot him a pm.

I personally would wait on them, there both young and still need to prove themselves imo. You would never believe it reading most of the garbage on here, but there are still nice modern day studs, throwing above average pups. That have already proven themselves in competition and in the pen.

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Posted by Fire Archer on 04-10-2015 12:14 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by yadkintar
There might be some all grand Grntchs being bred to out there that's never been in a night hunt !!!! ( oooooops I am so sorry that just slipped out I repent I won't do it again I promise !! )


I would say you are exactly right. I know for a fact, all titled dogs aren't honestly made. Hunted in a hunt here a while back. We never treed a coon and the CAST WINNER (yes I said cast winner) placed and put points on his dog towards NITE CH. In 3 out of the 5 hunts I have been in, a dog placed and was awarded points toward NITE CH and we (I) never seen a coon. But you know how it is, MAJORITY RULES. Get majority of the cast on your side and you can title any dog. Or just take another dog and register it under a different name. So much dishonesty in coon hunting it is pathetic.


Posted by dchartt on 04-10-2015 01:04 AM:

wait i thought you had to tree coon in UKC lmfao


Posted by Josh Michaelis on 04-10-2015 01:23 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Fisher13

I personally would wait on them, there both young and still need to prove themselves imo..



They aren't what I would consider young

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Posted by Fisher13 on 04-10-2015 04:57 AM:

quote:
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They aren't what I would consider young


How old are they, I know there not pups, but I just meant as far as studs go. I could obv be wrong.

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Posted by john Duemmer on 04-10-2015 12:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Fisher13
How old are they, I know there not pups, but I just meant as far as studs go. I could obv be wrong.


They are about 5, and have been gettin bred since they were old enough to climb on.

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Posted by TimmM on 04-10-2015 02:40 PM:

answer

Dang did anyone answer his question ?


Posted by jay brademeyer on 04-10-2015 03:13 PM:

They are 4... Coming 5 this summer. July 13. Defiantly not young dogs any more......they are In their prime.
.. I don't really know about any of them but Lizzy for sure, but I have heard from someone that I respect as a knowledgeable dog man that hunted with ROOSTER, and he said rooster had a real mouth went hunting real good drove a track, Treed with the meat and sounded real good Treed.. He told me if that dog did that on a regular bassis he figures he was real strong. I also have heard real good reports on the impact dog..

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Posted by NiteHeat on 04-14-2015 06:16 PM:

BTT

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