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Originally posted by Mike Van Dusen
Best thing you can teach any pup is the word "NO".
Once they learn that , the rest of their life they will be easy to correct at what ever they do that you don't like.

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
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Most important 3 are No... you can imagine all the reasons why...Here or Come...need the dog to respond immediately. Could even be a matter of life or death. And lastly...Heel. You don't want to fight the dog every step of the way and it sure is nice to be able to go anywhere and the dog staying right beside or behind you. Even if he or she tries to go correctly, sometimes they will go around a small tree or something which makes it a hassle. My areas are pretty thick and it has made for interesting trips out with an untrained dog. My first hound..I could pat her on the side and tell her to get behind me and she never left it until told to. I could have the leash on or off. Sometimes, I would snap it on and let the chain drag on a dog I was working on.

Update

Ozzy has really grown on me these past few weeks.

He is independent, smart, plenty of drive and excitement.

He Kennels, he is house broken, he is on a routine, he still can get wound up but is respecting the other pack members fairly well. He is showing more respect for my kids. His biting is under control. He is turning into a very well mannered pup. I had him out after the recent snowstorms he made quite the impression on some of my neighbors.

I have started some feeding exercises where he has to sit and wait for the older dogs in my pack to finish to eat. He doesn't stay sitting the whole time, but he will give the other dogs plenty of space until they are finished. This was essential for my oldest female who can be slightly trouble by new pups. They seem to have a much better understanding after starting this exercise. Hard to explain, any ways I believe this is a great exercise for a teaching a pup to respect other dogs space. It has been really effective with Ozzy.

I only feed my older dogs once a day, however with ozzy being younger he gets fed 3 times a day. So he gets to return the favor the other 2 feeding times.

During these times I have started the sit command. (sometimes I say nothing though) I will wait for him to sit and look at me before I place his bowl on the ground. Once he has calmed down and sitting correctly, I place the bowl in front of him, but place my hand in between him and the bowl. I will then encourage him to sit, and wait for him to sit and make eye contact again before releasing him to eat. I then put my hand in the bowl with him while he is feeding. He is getting this exercise but will need some work. The main goal here is to have him control his drive and excitement and for him to turn his attention to me and make eye contact. This exercise will also teach the obvious sit command, patience and help build good a bond through feeding times. The exercise is very important for the foundation of our future training.

Other then that now that the weather is breaking, I will start doing a lot more walks, and lead work as well as some day time walks down at the farm for some woods time.

Hope your all seeing your winter break as well and are getting in the woods again! Best of Luck!

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
Mark Twain

sounds like you're making progress. let's see some photos of him.

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Originally posted by Lone Pine JB
sounds like you're making progress. let's see some photos of him.

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
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Feeding Exercises

Here are some videos I put together quick of the 2 feeding exercises I have been using with Ozzy.

Feeding with in a pack
Feeding Exercise 1: http://youtu.be/UL_888XZuqE

Solo Feeding Exercise

Feeding Exercise 2: http://youtu.be/97zON5exUXk

Thanks Enjoy! I apologize for the poor quality in advance!

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
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Ozzy 13 weeks

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
Mark Twain

Ozzy is looking good Fisher.Dont let the kids get too attached to him.That way when you get mad at him you can sell him to me.

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Originally posted by Jackson87
Ozzy is looking good Fisher.Dont let the kids get too attached to him.That way when you get mad at him you can sell him to me.

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Quick update Ozzy is now leading, and healing, and sits. He knows all the feeding exercises. I am now transitioning him to the kennel. He is a week away from getting his rabies. Once he has his rabies, I will begin taking him to the woods, and start more hunting oriented exercises.

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
Mark Twain

awesome pup!

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Any new pic? I'm surprised you're allowed to do any dog related right now. 😆

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
Mark Twain

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
Mark Twain

ozzy is growing into a hoss

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Transition

Ozzy has successfully been transitioned outside. I started with afternoon naps, and put his feeding bowl in his soon to be kennel. He now jumps right in with no problems. He needs a couple hours of exercise a day, usually broken into mornings and evenings. He is wearing a bark collar, and has been a little stubborn about his barking but is improving. Something interesting I have noticed is that now that he is being kenneled outside, his temperent has changed moderately from being a little more laid back to bouncing off the walls. I can only guess this is from being kenneled. His rabies and puppy vaccinations are complete. Im hoping to start taking him to the woods, later this week. He will be 18 weeks old now, and is definitely ready for some more hunting oriented exercises. I expect him to pick it up quickly and be treeing coon solo, by this summer Fingers crossed

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
Mark Twain

Ozzy treed for the first time last night.
Now a few disclaimers lol.
I did have to walk him to the tree.
You will also see, he doesn't really know why he is barking , he just knows its fun.


He knows the scent of a coon now, he is using his nose good. He isn't hunting out with my other dog, and he hasn't done any trailing. So he has a TON to learn, but it was nice to see him get excited over the scent of a coon.

Link to video of Ozzy treeing
https://youtu.be/lUw2lWwpzXM

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
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Sounding good Fisher.Hes gonna have a nice houndy mouth.How old is he now?

Thanks jackson, he is around 5 to 6 months.
Im actually not to crazy about his mouth, but maybe I will get used to it.

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
Mark Twain

What kinda mouth do you like?

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Originally posted by Jackson87
What kinda mouth do you like?

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
Mark Twain

Garrett I had to go back and listen to that video again thinking he must have one of those squeely voices "he doesn't". I'm assuming you like a good houndy voice. If you do I think that pup sounds like he should mature with a good deep houndy voice. He sounds pretty houndy already for his age. IMO
Now if you want one of those banshee squawlers that really pierce the night he doesn't sound like he's going to be one of those but I don't think those Lone Pine dogs are really known for that kind of voice either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8beVAyn4g0

Sorry for the lack of updates, I started a business this summer and have been swamped.

This is a video of him treeing on a drag,by scent that he tracked for 200 yards or so very quickly back in July. I think this one of the last drags I laid for him.

I started him on drags, by taking a long fishing rod, tying a rag soaked in coon scent, and letting him chase it in the yard. I then started playing hide and seek with him, hiding it in trees and stuff.

I figured out that he had a much easier time trailing the drag when it was wet then dry. Once I got that figured out, he progressed well. I quit with the drags and started putting him in the woods with my broke dogs. He started running and treeing with them. At first he didn't want to leave my feet, but after a few nights he was going as hard as any of them.
I now have been singling him out, he is currently running anything with hair on, and I have decided even though he hasn't treed a wild coon by himself, I need to break him off deer. He appears to take a shock well, so I don't think this will set him back much. It may be a little early, but I believe due to the large amount of hunt he has displayed, it would be better to curb it a little early rather then a little late, when poor habits have already been formed. He even sucked in my broke female for a good deer chase, the other night. It seems his name has become fitting, because he typically does sound like a crazy train flying down through the holler.

He appears to be an open mouthed, well balanced, fast action packed dog. Not exactly my preferred style of dog, but his nose seems to be above average, so he is keeping my interest.

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
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Originally posted by john Duemmer
Very interesting thread, and everything your pup learns will make life easier when you go to the woods.
Heres the hitch... even from the very best litters MAYBE 25% get what it takes genetically to become a top hound, 50% will have the talent to tree a coon, and the other 25% are culls.
A guy could accumulate quite a few house dogs that the family is attached to in his seach for a couple good ones, I hope your pup turns out great because i wouldnt want to be the guy that has to tell that cute little girl Ozzy's gotta go.
I think i will stick to the system where they have to show some talent in the timber first, its pretty hard to be objective about a dog once everyone is invested emotionally. Best of luck thats a sharp lookin pup, and i look forward to seeing where you are 2 years from now.

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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man."
Mark Twain

I enjoy reading your updates. Keep it up! Sounds like he's off to a good start. I believe he's only about 9-10 months old, so he's still real young.

Agreed, break him off junk before it becomes a habit. It's much harder the longer you let him get away with it.

We have a litter available right now off of his momma and Bushwhacker if you know of anyone looking...

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