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Posted by croatankid on 01-28-2015 08:03 PM:

I like the sw bodyguard too. I don't think the laser adds much to the self defense effectiveness but I do like the added safety. I think it's what i'll get for my wife to carry.

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Posted by bandithunter on 01-29-2015 04:47 AM:

JmillerFL nailed it, without a central nervous system hit no pistol will drop a guy in his tracks. We are taught, two in the chest, one in the head for a reason. Really it boils down to what you are comfortable with and what you can shoot accurately. I don't go anywhere without carrying, and I don't advertise the fact by carrying a hand cannon that's tough to conceal. Never thought I'd live to see the day when I would have to carry a gun..............but it's here.


Posted by croatankid on 01-29-2015 07:34 PM:

I grew up in Alabama and I recall seeing my dad carrying a 38 w/6" barrel in his waist, Mexican style, as we walked the streets of Bessemer. I thought then that he stood out like a sore thumb but that's how he saw things then. He was an activist and I learned from him.

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Posted by JmillerFL on 01-29-2015 08:12 PM:

Why do all if you like the pocket guns so much. I hate the trigger pull, low round capacity and find them really difficult to draw and grip. I also am not a fan of .380. It's like a 9mm for girls. They have the same size bullet with half the powder. Which means less penetration. If I did carry a pocket pistol it would be for back up. That's what they are made for


Posted by msinc on 01-29-2015 08:30 PM:

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Originally posted by JmillerFL
Why do all if you like the pocket guns so much. I hate the trigger pull, low round capacity and find them really difficult to draw and grip. I also am not a fan of .380. It's like a 9mm for girls. They have the same size bullet with half the powder. Which means less penetration. If I did carry a pocket pistol it would be for back up. That's what they are made for


It's not so much liking the caliber or the gun, it's the size and the need to really hide it. I love my Browning Hi-Power, but I cannot carry a gun that big in the summertime and not have the world know. So called "deep concealment" guns are the smallest to hide them easily. You are right, the triggers on most of them are pretty bad. But for what they can do anyway the trigger is a trade off to be able to carry and hide a gun that small. If you had to use it you would probably be shooting so close you wont aim and wont feel how bad the trigger is anyway. The Kimber Solo has a nice trigger but you pay for it.


Posted by JmillerFL on 01-29-2015 08:46 PM:

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Originally posted by msinc
It's not so much liking the caliber or the gun, it's the size and the need to really hide it. I love my Browning Hi-Power, but I cannot carry a gun that big in the summertime and not have the world know. So called "deep concealment" guns are the smallest to hide them easily. You are right, the triggers on most of them are pretty bad. But for what they can do anyway the trigger is a trade off to be able to carry and hide a gun that small. If you had to use it you would probably be shooting so close you wont aim and wont feel how bad the trigger is anyway. The Kimber Solo has a nice trigger but you pay for it.
I carry the ruger sr40c. No problems hiding it and non of the problems that you have with a pocket gun. To each his own but they aren't for me.


Posted by Melanie H. on 01-29-2015 09:16 PM:

Re: Concealed

I have the SW Shield .40. When I bought the Shield it was between that and the Ruger LC9. I shot them both and preferred the feel of the .40.

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Posted by JmillerFL on 01-29-2015 09:45 PM:

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Originally posted by CentralTn
Nice choice Melanie my son carries a shield and likes it.I still carry mp 40 compact but also put a 357 sig fnp in the truck with 15 round mags.I shot the shield and may end up with one for conceal.
your shield didn't come with an extended mag?


Posted by JmillerFL on 01-30-2015 12:02 AM:

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Originally posted by CentralTn
Yes it has 1 extended and 1 regular.Only thing I don't really like is the extension will slide off the top of the mag .He said it don't cause any problems and can swith to the regular mag if he wants to.He has plenty of choices but likes it because of the holster he uses.
sorry I meant your mp


Posted by JmillerFL on 01-30-2015 12:29 AM:

I usually keep the extended mag with me. I need to get a mag pouch of some sort. Last thing I would want to do is run out of ammo


Posted by croatankid on 01-30-2015 01:31 AM:

Does anyone know the incident rate of people defending themselves and running out of bullets. The rate of people defending themselves is very low and often times they fire one shot and miss and just show their weapon to defend themselves. I suspect, though I have no way of knowing, that the rate is extremely low for running out of bullets.

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Posted by JmillerFL on 01-30-2015 01:38 AM:

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Originally posted by croatankid
Does anyone know the incident rate of people defending themselves and running out of bullets. The rate of people defending themselves is very low and often times they fire one shot and miss and just show their weapon to defend themselves. I suspect, though I have no way of knowing, that the rate is extremely low for running out of bullets.
better to have them and not need them then to need them and not have them. What if there is more then one bad guy and you can't get away


Posted by Terry Dye on 01-30-2015 01:55 AM:

We had a constable here years ago that carried a .22 High Standard revolver as his service weapon. Everybody laughed and joked about his "pea shooter". He finally had enough of the jokes and offered anybody the chance to bend over and let him shoot them in the @$$ to see if it shot peas. To my knowledge, no one took him up on his offer0


Posted by Terry Dye on 01-30-2015 01:55 AM:

We had a constable here years ago that carried a .22 High Standard revolver as his service weapon. Everybody laughed and joked about his "pea shooter". He finally had enough of the jokes and offered anybody the chance to bend over and let him shoot them in the @$$ to see if it shot peas. To my knowledge, no one took him up on his offer0


Posted by JmillerFL on 01-30-2015 01:59 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Terry Dye
We had a constable here years ago that carried a .22 High Standard revolver as his service weapon. Everybody laughed and joked about his "pea shooter". He finally had enough of the jokes and offered anybody the chance to bend over and let him shoot them in the @$$ to see if it shot peas. To my knowledge, no one took him up on his offer0
I would have made fun of him too. Jmo but anyone who would carry anything smaller then a 9mm for personal protection is just crazy,dumb, or both.


Posted by croatankid on 01-30-2015 04:26 PM:

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Originally posted by JmillerFL
better to have them and not need them then to need them and not have them. What if there is more then one bad guy and you can't get away

You are right. I did a little research and found that there cases of more than one man trying to break into a house. Just recently a women emptied her glock, I think, before she stopped the two men breaking into her house.
If I opened carried I'd carry a big gun with many bullets but since I'm a small man it's hard to conceal anything but the smallest pistol.

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Posted by krocket on 01-30-2015 10:53 PM:

Para USA warthog im looking for one hot an heavy


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