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Posted by outlaw0411 on 12-09-2013 04:04 AM:

"To conquer a country, you must first disarm it's citcens" -Adolf Hilter.
Nuff said.

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Posted by TomPurdy on 12-09-2013 04:34 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by trackdriver
Naw,it's the unconditional hate that amazes me. Lie after lie,hypocrisy after hypocrisy,and the kicker is these are the ones that call themselves christian,wow! If you get people to believe adsurdities,they'll commit atrocities,that scares me.

Track would you care to elaborate on all the lies, and the hypocrisy that have been spread regarding our President? If you would be specific, and not just make vague comments.

One example of what I'm asking for, from our current President would be if you like your insurance, and doctor you can keep them!! Even though he repeated that over and over, I will only count it as one. I think we both can agree now that has been proven a lie filled with hypocrisy!!

Can you give me some examples such as that?

Posted by Redneck Mafia on 12-09-2013 08:14 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by trackdriver
Right smart question,don't mention bush in the mess he created. You just stick to your 1 or 2 issue vote and watch y'all lose. There's an America outside of you and your 10 friend.

There are way more than 10 of us - we are scattered far & wide across this great land . I don't vote dem for just 1 or 2 reasons my list is long . But I will give you my # 1 reason for biggest problem w/ your king little o - he is a know socailist & has a socialist /communist agenda for this country (he joined the DSA in 1996 it~s a fact you can look up ). I do not believe in re-ditribution of wealth , I like many other do not wish for hand outs , don't want to have anymore of our daily lives governed ! We wish the live our lives self sufficiently.
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Posted by Triple K Kennel on 12-09-2013 11:55 AM:

Really....

quote:
Originally posted by TomPurdy
Track would you care to elaborate on all the lies, and the hypocrisy that have been spread regarding our President? If you would be specific, and not just make vague comments.

One example of what I'm asking for, from our current President would be if you like your insurance, and doctor you can keep them!! Even though he repeated that over and over, I will only count it as one. I think we both can agree now that has been proven a lie filled with hypocrisy!!

Can you give me some examples such as that?

I know Obama said that if you liked your insurance you can keep it, and I still believe that, because my wife and I kept ours, and I know plenty that kept theirs....But if you can't keep it then that is because of your insurance company, not Obama.......!!!!

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Posted by Jonathan Crump on 12-09-2013 11:56 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by trackdriver
Right smart question,don't mention bush in the mess he created. You just stick to your 1 or 2 issue vote and watch y'all lose. There's an America outside of you and your 10 friend.

For a true born again believer in CHRIST the 2 issues you talk about are all that matter because as a Christian you vote in a way that is pleasing to the Almighty GOD. But I have many reasons for not voting for the dems abortion, gay rights, taking from the willing and giving to the unwilling, changing my insurance that wasn't broke and the price going up under the affordiable care act (I though it was supposed to be more affordable), the dems exempting themselves from a law that we didn't want but are driving it down our throat, wanting to give many illeagals citizenship that should have to earn citizenship the way it's been done before this horrible administration took office, this administration in my eyes has turned it's back on Isreal, more scandals than the mofia would have ever thought when they pushed to get him elected, wanting to remove the power of firearms from the citizens, stomping the Constitution writen by the founding fathers of this nation to protect the people from a government that has became to large and ineffective and many many more.

Please, Please one of you libs tell me WHAT HAS the current ADMINISTRATION done to BUILD this NATION?

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Posted by Lee Stocking on 12-09-2013 12:11 PM:

Re: Really....

quote:
Originally posted by Triple K Kennel
I know Obama said that if you liked your insurance you can keep it, and I still believe that, because my wife and I kept ours, and I know plenty that kept theirs....But if you can't keep it then that is because of your insurance company, not Obama.......!!!!

NOT TRUE!!! I was on B/C and lost mine. Not because of B/C..

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Posted by Jonathan Crump on 12-09-2013 12:30 PM:

Re: Really....

quote:
Originally posted by Triple K Kennel
I know Obama said that if you liked your insurance you can keep it, and I still believe that, because my wife and I kept ours, and I know plenty that kept theirs....But if you can't keep it then that is because of your insurance company, not Obama.......!!!!

Due to the laws by the pres and his cronies in Washington our insurance companies changed to be compliant with HIS law. Due to the Affordable Care Act I get HIGHER premiums, HIGHER deductables and HIGHER co-pays. I guess it's only fair to make the working man pay for those to sit home and watch TV all day to isn't it.

Posted by Triple K Kennel on 12-09-2013 12:57 PM:

Re: Re: Really....

quote:
Originally posted by Lee Stocking
NOT TRUE!!! I was on B/C and lost mine. Not because of B/C..

We have B/C as well, we got to keep it, premiums went up a little, but they have every couple of years for the last 15 yrs we have had it.

Posted by Triple K Kennel on 12-09-2013 01:05 PM:

Re: Re: Really....

quote:
Originally posted by Jonathan Crump
Due to the laws by the pres and his cronies in Washington our insurance companies changed to be compliant with HIS law. Due to the Affordable Care Act I get HIGHER premiums, HIGHER deductables and HIGHER co-pays. I guess it's only fair to make the working man pay for those to sit home and watch TV all day to isn't it.

Blah blah blah.........
Again, it was your insurance company and their choice, not Obama.
I have Blue Cross / Blue Shield, premiums went up a little, deductible and co pay stays the same.......The working man has always paid for the poor and the lazy.did you groan and moan about this when the Bush men were in office ?........

......

Posted by conhtr1 on 12-09-2013 01:13 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Really....

quote:
Originally posted by Triple K Kennel
Blah blah blah.........
Again, it was your insurance company and their choice, not Obama.
I have Blue Cross / Blue Shield, premiums went up a little, deductible and co pay stays the same.......The working man has always paid for the poor and the lazy.did you groan and moan about this when the Bush men were in office ?..............

Here we are 6 years later and it's still all about Bush. If we use that analogy, it was Clinton's fault for 911(actually was since Sudan offered him bin Laden) and Clinton's fault for the recession. Thanks for acknowledging that what our leaders do has a effect on what happens down the road.

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Posted by TomPurdy on 12-09-2013 01:17 PM:

Re: Really....

quote:
Originally posted by Triple K Kennel
I know Obama said that if you liked your insurance you can keep it, and I still believe that, because my wife and I kept ours, and I know plenty that kept theirs....But if you can't keep it then that is because of your insurance company, not Obama.......!!!!

TK I'm glad you and your wife got to keep your insurance!! The problem is 50 million Americans and counting do not!!

I see now you have started to blame the insurance companies!!! They were forced to drop people to conform with a law called OBAMAcare!!

At some point you are going to have own up to the fact that it can't always be someone else's fault!!! If you could though and I will include you, answer the question I posed to Track. I don't want to go down rabbit trails!! Please tell me how I've lied about the President! And please be specific!!!

Posted by Jonathan Crump on 12-09-2013 01:18 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Really....

quote:
Originally posted by Triple K Kennel
Blah blah blah.........
Again, it was your insurance company and their choice, not Obama.
I have Blue Cross / Blue Shield, premiums went up a little, deductible and co pay stays the same.......The working man has always paid for the poor and the lazy.did you groan and moan about this when the Bush men were in office ?..............

Yes and I will always have a problem with taking from the willing and giving to the unwilling. If not for the ACA I would have the same insurance policy I've had for years what part of the law changed everything do you guys not understand.

Posted by rance56 on 12-09-2013 01:22 PM:

Re: Really....

quote:
Originally posted by Triple K Kennel
I know Obama said that if you liked your insurance you can keep it, and I still believe that, .......!!!!

there it is in a nutshell, obama supporters live in fantasy land. its clearly been proven alot of people cant keep their insurance due to obamacare yet his disciples make up a false reality

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Posted by Lee Stocking on 12-09-2013 01:29 PM:

Would somebody explain how a president can front the nation making changes in the ACA without congressional vote?

Posted by Triple K Kennel on 12-09-2013 01:31 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Really....

quote:
Originally posted by Jonathan Crump
Yes and I will always have a problem with taking from the willing and giving to the unwilling. If not for the ACA I would have the same insurance policy I've had for years what part of the law changed everything do you guys not understand.

One question........
Did your insurance company give you specifics on changes to your policy due to ACA ?

Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 12-09-2013 01:34 PM:

One thing that nobody will argue about is the fact that this president and his administration has more then ever seeked out to divide this country.

I remember obama saying he would reach out his hand across party lines to solve issues working with both sides. I have not only seen him not reach out his hand but the total opposite.

One thing obama is good at is tickling peoples ears as long as he has someone to write his speaches and of course his teleprompter.

I'm convinced people like track, truly tripple k, and a few others on here will be on the ship until it hits the bottom. Then when it does still blame someone else.

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Posted by Triple K Kennel on 12-09-2013 01:34 PM:

Re: Re: Really....

quote:
Originally posted by TomPurdy
TK I'm glad you and your wife got to keep your insurance!! The problem is 50 million Americans and counting do not!!

I see now you have started to blame the insurance companies!!! They were forced to drop people to conform with a law called OBAMAcare!!

At some point you are going to have own up to the fact that it can't always be someone else's fault!!! If you could though and I will include you, answer the question I posed to Track. I don't want to go down rabbit trails!! Please tell me how I've lied about the President! And please be specific!!!

Give some specifics on why insurance companies were forced to drop people ?

Posted by Jonathan Crump on 12-09-2013 01:45 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Really....

quote:
Originally posted by Triple K Kennel
One question........
Did your insurance company give you specifics on changes to your policy due to ACA ?

Just that it didn't meet ACA REQUIREMENTS. Now answer me this what has the current administration done to help the working man?

Posted by Jonathan Crump on 12-09-2013 01:46 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Really....

quote:
Originally posted by Triple K Kennel
Give some specifics on why insurance companies were forced to drop people ?

ACA ACA ACA ACA

Posted by Triple K Kennel on 12-09-2013 02:00 PM:

Re: Re: Really....

quote:
Originally posted by rance56
there it is in a nutshell, obama supporters live in fantasy land. its clearly been proven alot of people cant keep their insurance due to obamacare yet his disciples make up a false reality

Well, he didn't lie to me, we like our insurance and we got to keep it....so, if you guys are getting your insurance cancelled or changed sounds to me you had a poor insurance company ?
These insurance companies that are canceling policies, are they staying in business , are they folding under, if they are staying in business are they canceling policies because of pre existing conditions and might cost them too much to keep you ?
Just asking ?

Posted by TomPurdy on 12-09-2013 02:06 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Really....

quote:
Originally posted by Triple K Kennel
Give some specifics on why insurance companies were forced to drop people ?

Yes TK I can give you a specific answer!! Due to OBAMAcare all policies have to meet the requirements set by the President!! Such as if a 75 yr old woman's policy does not carry a maturity rider, she is dropped!!! Because her policy doesn't meet the requirements put in place by the Presidents new law!!!

Not to many 75yr old women need a maturity rider, but they are forced to bye it or they are dropped!! Because insurance companies are forced to follow the Presidents new law!! That is only one example there many more!! It is socialism at it finest!!!

Posted by rance56 on 12-09-2013 02:30 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Really....

quote:
Originally posted by Triple K Kennel
Well, he didn't lie to me, we like our insurance and we got to keep it....so, if you guys are getting your insurance cancelled or changed sounds to me you had a poor insurance company ?
These insurance companies that are canceling policies, are they staying in business , are they folding under, if they are staying in business are they canceling policies because of pre existing conditions and might cost them too much to keep you ?
Just asking ?

alot are being cancelled because they dont cover having a baby, a 63 year old lady i know got her plan cancelled because it didnt cover her having a baby, lol.

get a clue buddy.

IF U LIKE IT YOU CAN KEEP IT. NOT!

ATLEAST WHEN BUSH SR LIED ABOUT READ MY LIPS, NO NEW TAXES, WE HAD THE GUMPTION TO HOLD HIM TO THOSE PROMISES

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Posted by Triple K Kennel on 12-09-2013 02:45 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Really....

quote:
Originally posted by rance56
alot are being cancelled because they dont cover having a baby, a 63 year old lady i know got her plan cancelled because it didnt cover her having a baby, lol.

get a clue buddy.

IF U LIKE IT YOU CAN KEEP IT. NOT!

ATLEAST WHEN BUSH SR LIED ABOUT READ MY LIPS, NO NEW TAXES, WE HAD THE GUMPTION TO HOLD HIM TO THOSE PROMISES

Sounds to me that it would be very easy for an insurance company to rewrite a policy to cover a 63 yr old lady to cover her having a baby....lol
A lot easier than canceling a policy, and costing them money by losing that customer.....I don't think they have to worry about a 63 yr old giving birth......just an excuse to make ACA look bad, ....

Posted by Lee Stocking on 12-09-2013 02:47 PM:

Dear Tim

Blue Cross Blue Shield told me over the phone the ACA forced policy changes. Come January 1st I have to buy into the ACA with higher rates and much higher co-payment.
I been to my oncologist and GP this month taking care of a couple minor health issues because IM LOOSING INSURANCE COVERAGE. I capitalized just in case you don't believe me.

Posted by Triple K Kennel on 12-09-2013 02:54 PM:

Lee....

quote:
Originally posted by Lee Stocking
Dear Tim

Blue Cross Blue Shield told me over the phone the ACA forced policy changes. Come January 1st I have to buy into the ACA with higher rates and much higher co-payment.
I been to my oncologist and GP this month taking care of a couple minor health issues because IM LOOSING INSURANCE COVERAGE. I capitalized just in case you don't believe me.

Now why would I not believe you ?.....

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