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Originally posted by oscar
I never said anything bad about Wade. IMO he is one of the best. Having said that the heat is wades team but now everyone is turning it into LeBrons team. Remember LeBron came to the heat so he could win a championship as he couldn't do it on his own team. When Shaq came to the heat he said it several times this is wades team he didn't take all the credit for winning. Like someone said before if it wasn't for wade,allen and miller LeBron wouldn't have gotten a second ring. You can make all the excuses you want for LeBron but he came to a team with superstar on it so he could win MJ was with the bulls through it all the good years and the bad and didn't jump ship just so he could win. He made them winners.

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Re: heat win more titles?

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Originally posted by prostockpat
maybe.....but bosh has gotta go! he's was a big let down to me.folded like a napkin the last 2 series of playoffs{hibbard and duncan}

the heat need a true "big man"
they gotta be the worse rebounding team to win a nba championship!!

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I can't believe anyone is comparing Lebron to MJ! Kobe should get consideration way before Lebron.

The thing that separates MJ from everyone else was his competativeness (sp). MJ would never join the best to be the best.

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Originally posted by dbprofitt56
Wow, are you serious? The Heat had the 2nd longest winning streak in the history of the NBA this year, and you decide they're not dominating! They won 66 games this year, but they're not dominating! I put up stats, and you give your opinion. James is 28 years old, and is improving just like MJ did. Lets compare the 2 in the next 5 years!

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Originally posted by K. Singletary
Two 7 game series this year and a Ray Allen 3 away from not winning the title. Yes, I'm serious. And Jordan doesn't have a series on his resume where he shrunk in the moment like Lebron does against Dallas.

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Originally posted by T Felderman
I can't believe anyone is comparing Lebron to MJ! Kobe should get consideration way before Lebron.

The thing that separates MJ from everyone else was his competativeness (sp). MJ would never join the best to be the best.

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Re: MJ VS LEBRON

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Originally posted by prostockpat
MJ HAD LESS AND DID MORE,
THAN LEBRON HAS TO DO TO WIN!

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Jordans stats



http://www.basketball-reference.com.../jordami01.html


James stats



http://www.basketball-reference.com.../jamesle01.html



Just in case Kobes Stats



http://www.basketball-reference.com.../bryanko01.html

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Thanks Chuck! Who knows who's best, or gonna be the best! Guys say MJ, or Kobe, or Magic, or The Big O, or Kareem, or Bird! I say Lebron, but it's all speculation, and who we like the best!

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Originally posted by dbprofitt56
How in the world do you know this? It's your opinion, and that's all. Look at their stats.......and Kobe.....please!

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Originally posted by prostockpat
whats bs?
the heat can still win a high % of their games w/o lebron!!
they beat the spurs w/o lebron or wade during reg season.

if u took jordan away from the bulls.....lol, it was all over.
no jordan=no chance!!

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http://www.nba.com/bulls/history/Ch...y-24393-42.html

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Pat; I always thought Jordan was the best of the best! Majic was the best point guard that I ever seen both in college & pros, the big guy could lead the fast break & lay it up or give you that no look pass to one of his teammates. Nobody could match up w/ him size wise & he could muscle his way to the basket as good as anybody. Larry Bird was my favorite forward, he could shot the lights out and a trmendous passer, always knew where his teammates were on the court at all times, just a great player. TV ratings took a big hit when these 3 players retired!!! Labron is very good, maybe sometimes he should try more to take the game over, not many players can match up w/ his size & guard him.

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Originally posted by T Felderman
There are many things in a player that stats can NOT measure. The Will to Win is one of them. 2nd to None!

Not a Lebron hater here, he just shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Jordan.

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Re: bulls won championships w/o jordan?

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Originally posted by prostockpat
the bulls won 2 nba championship{s} after jordon left?
i don't remember that.
what year{s}?

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charlie,
i agree magic was the best.too bad todays players don't have his class on the court! no show boating or talking sh!t,or flagrant fouls.he just made everybody better,and could play any position.

dpprofit,
lebron better surpass mj!!!
he punked out on clevland and went to a already GOOD team in miami.YES,he's a top player no doubt.
BUT... instead of beating them,he joined them...lol
when wade retires,if they don't have a true big man,there done.

mj;got selected to below average team... and stayed they built around him,and won with what he had!

magic;got selected to a veteran team and made it a dominate winning franchise.

well said prostockpat

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Originally posted by prostockpat
charlie,
i agree magic was the best.too bad todays players don't have his class on the court! no show boating or talking sh!t,or flagrant fouls.he just made everybody better,and could play any position.

dpprofit,
lebron better surpass mj!!!
he punked out on clevland and went to a already GOOD team in miami.YES,he's a top player no doubt.
BUT... instead of beating them,he joined them...lol
when wade retires,if they don't have a true big man,there done.

mj;got selected to below average team... and stayed they built around him,and won with what he had!

magic;got selected to a veteran team and made it a dominate winning franchise.

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