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Posted by pigman816 on 03-16-2013 03:57 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dale Young
Close single registration on EVERYTHING we have now.
Open a crossbreed catagory with a single registration for hound crossbreeds and let everything unknown fall in there along with whatever breeding the crossbreeds do and let them hunt .
This would be for crosses off our 7 recognized breeds .

Down side might be only crossbreeds down the road .

Best idea Ive heard. Keeps it honest!

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Posted by tylerman on 03-16-2013 02:11 PM:

I dont think there needs to be a crossbred breed....there are 7 now that are and all where from crosses of such....just leave the open reg for dogs that conform and quite trying to control people and there programs..

I say open it up and leave people choose.Look at how many people are only breeding their stuff and only their stuff anyhow so why would it bother that large percent other than being beat?They are not going to breed to it if they are that opposed to it.Most say one thing but do another.Seems more of a control issue.If it is only going to bring them grief they will find out if it dont you will see it in the winners circles.You breed in or out you will breed back and forth in linebreeding/inbreeding most likely.Thomas Jefferson said to much government control over the people would be its demise....

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Posted by Blacklabel on 03-16-2013 08:46 PM:

Lets look @ it from a business standpoint ... is ukc missing out on money?
hunt entries, registration fees,, performance sire free, nomination fees.

Lets not kid ourselves its a business.

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Posted by patches9452 on 03-16-2013 11:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Blacklabel
Lets look @ it from a business standpoint ... is ukc missing out on money?
hunt entries, registration fees,, performance sire free, nomination fees.

Lets not kid ourselves its a business.

yes they are so do you think they should let the fiest and bird dogs pit bulls or anything else someone wants to pay an entry fee on hunt... if strickly business stand point is all your looking at why not

Posted by shawn mullinnix on 03-16-2013 11:32 PM:

I have hunted cross-breds (walker x bluetick) for almost 30 years. What i have done, is single register them english. I would love to see UKC have a cross-bred breed, but until then, i will continue to follow the rules as they are now and single register my dogs because i like to be able to hunt all the diffrent registries. I will say this, some of the cross-bred dogs are starting to show up and win at a high level.

Posted by Rob Reid on 03-16-2013 11:43 PM:

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Posted by Blacklabel on 03-16-2013 11:52 PM:

Im saying if it can tree hunt it... i owned an American Bulldog that went to the woods every night he'd bbe belly up when u got there. He would go to them after we were about 50yrds out. He knew what that 22was.

Just saying if they have a hound and want to hunt it, they should be able to. I am a big fan of crossbreds. Sounds like ur scared your highly bred purple ribbon dog may get beat by a mutt.

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Posted by patches9452 on 03-17-2013 12:00 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Blacklabel
Im saying if it can tree hunt it... i owned an American Bulldog that went to the woods every night he'd bbe belly up when u got there. He would go to them after we were about 50yrds out. He knew what that 22was.

Just saying if they have a hound and want to hunt it, they should be able to. I am a big fan of crossbreds. Sounds like ur scared your highly bred purple ribbon dog may get beat by a mutt.

no sir i have some crossbred hounds also.... just dont understand why you would want them registered in a purebred registry.... btw i could single register them and choose not to because i dont think it should be allowed

Posted by Blacklabel on 03-17-2013 12:07 AM:

If they were registered "other", how is that registered as pure bred?

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Posted by Blacklabel on 03-17-2013 12:15 AM:

I misread ur post.

To register them in a purebred registery as other would still allow them to compete as PUREBRED COONDOGS.

I MYSELF AM TIRED OF LABELS ON EVERYTHING IN LIFE.

Rich poor black white purple.. im more interested in whats on the inside that what a set standard is on the outside.

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 03-17-2013 12:18 AM:

I really don't think anyone would cross breed outside of the UKC Scent Hound Breeds ..

And I'm not for Breeding a Bird Dog or anything else to a Hound ..

But anything within the Scent Hounds would be fair Game !!

I personaly Like the Crosses I have made ..

Pour the Scent Hound Nose Back in and Keep the Speed as fast as they can Roll !!!!

My Choice was the Grand Gascon-Saintongeois "French Hound" crossed on Treeing walker and Bloodhound ..

My next Cross will be using the Chien Francais Blanc et Noir

UKC Scenthound Breeds

Alpine Drachsbracke

American Black & Tan Coonhound (Rev. 01/01/2011)

American Foxhound

American Leopard Hound (Rev. 01/01/2011)

Anglo-Francais de Petite Venerie

Ariegeois

Austrian Black and Tan Hound

Barak

Basset Artesien Normand

Basset Bleu De Gascogne

Basset Fauve De Bretagne

Basset Hound (Rev. 05/01/2012)

Bavarian Mountain Hound

Beagle (Rev. 01/01/2013)

Beagle

Beagle Harrier

Billy

Black Forest Hound (Slovakian Hound)

Black Mouth Cur

Bloodhound

Bluetick Coonhound (Rev. 01/01/2011)

Briquet Griffon Vendeen

Chien d'Artois

Chien Francais Blanc et Noir

Chien Francais Tricolore

Dachshund

Deutsche Bracke

Drever

Dunker

English Coonhound (Rev. 01/01/2011)

English Foxhound

Finnish Hound

Francais Blanc et Orange

Grand Basset Griffon Vendeen

Grand Bleu De Gascogne

Grand Gascon-Saintongeois

Grand Griffon Vendeen

Great Anglo-Francais Tricolor Hound

Great Anglo-Francais White and Black Hound

Great Anglo-Francais White and Orange Hound

Griffon Bleu de Gascogne

Griffon Fauve de Bretagne

Griffon Nivernais

Haldenstover (Halden Hound)

Hamiltonstovare (Rev. 06/01/2012)

Hanoverian Hound

Harrier

Hellenic Hound

Hygen Hound

Istrian Coarse-Haired Hound

Istrian Short-Haired Hound

Italian Hound

Montenegrin Mountain Hound

Mountain Cur

Otterhound

Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen

Petit Bleu De Gascogne

Petit Gascon-Saintongeois

Plott Hound (Rev. 01/01/2011)

Poitevin

Polish Hound

Porcelaine

Posavaz Hound

Redbone Coonhound (Rev. 01/01/2011)

Schiller Hound

Serbian Hound

Serbian Tricolor Hound

Smaland Hound

Small Swiss Hound

Spanish Hound

Stephens' Cur

Styrian Coarse Haired Hound

Swiss Hound

Transylvanian Hound

Treeing Cur

Treeing Walker Coonhound (Rev. 01/01/2011)

Tyrolean Hound

Welsh Hound

Westphalian Dachsbracke

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Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 03-17-2013 12:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Blacklabel
Im saying if it can tree hunt it... i owned an American Bulldog that went to the woods every night he'd bbe belly up when u got there. He would go to them after we were about 50yrds out. He knew what that 22was.

Just saying if they have a hound and want to hunt it, they should be able to. I am a big fan of crossbreds. Sounds like ur scared your highly bred purple ribbon dog may get beat by a mutt.

it isn't that the guys with the pure breeds don't want crossbreeds to be able to compete....they do. They just don't like that they have to accept them into their breeds and call them that breed when they are single registered. Like the gentleman from tx that said he has been crossing walkers and blueticks for years....and he single registers them as english(probably because that is the only thing they can be single registered in because of how they look)
I am sure he would rather register them as a crossbreed if that option were available...but it sounds like if he wants to compete...he has to single register them as a breed that neither of the parents were if he wants to compete.
Nobody is afraid to compete against crossbreeds....many of us just want them to have a legitimate category that they can be registered in that doesnt have a breed standard based on a certain color or color pattern. That way...any dog who was a hound...no matter what his color could be registered and compete right alongside of the purebreds....who knows...maybe they will prove to be better than the purebreds.

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Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 03-17-2013 12:46 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Majestic Tree H
I really don't think anyone would cross breed outside of the UKC Scent Hound Breeds ..

And I'm not for Breeding a Bird Dog or anything else to a Hound ..

But anything within the Scent Hounds would be fair Game !!

I personaly Like the Crosses I have made ..

Pour the Scent Hound Nose Back in and Keep the Speed as fast as they can Roll !!!!

My Choice was the Grand Gascon-Saintongeois "French Hound" crossed on Treeing walker and Bloodhound ..

My next Cross will be using the Chien Francais Blanc et Noir

Steve, the only problem with your statement about any cross between the scent hounds should be fair game is....that some breed associations have decided by majority vote either not to allow known crossbreeds to be single registered in their breed or have closed single registration all together in an attempt to keep there breed as pure as possible. Those rules prevent crossbreeds from taking place and being ukc registered in at least 2 or 3 breeds unless a person is dishonest and lies about what the dog is really out of. But if ukc were to offer a crossbreed category to register any combination of scent hounds to be registered and be able to compete...then crossbreeds from those breeds who prohibit crossbreeding would have a way to be registered and compete. Some on here think that a crossbreed can be single registered in ALL breeds....just pick the breed that the dog looks most like....but this is simply not the case because some breed associations do not allow it.

UKC Scenthound Breeds

Alpine Drachsbracke

American Black & Tan Coonhound (Rev. 01/01/2011)

American Foxhound

American Leopard Hound (Rev. 01/01/2011)

Anglo-Francais de Petite Venerie

Ariegeois

Austrian Black and Tan Hound

Barak

Basset Artesien Normand

Basset Bleu De Gascogne

Basset Fauve De Bretagne

Basset Hound (Rev. 05/01/2012)

Bavarian Mountain Hound

Beagle (Rev. 01/01/2013)

Beagle

Beagle Harrier

Billy

Black Forest Hound (Slovakian Hound)

Black Mouth Cur

Bloodhound

Bluetick Coonhound (Rev. 01/01/2011)

Briquet Griffon Vendeen

Chien d'Artois

Chien Francais Blanc et Noir

Chien Francais Tricolore

Dachshund

Deutsche Bracke

Drever

Dunker

English Coonhound (Rev. 01/01/2011)

English Foxhound

Finnish Hound

Francais Blanc et Orange

Grand Basset Griffon Vendeen

Grand Bleu De Gascogne

Grand Gascon-Saintongeois

Grand Griffon Vendeen

Great Anglo-Francais Tricolor Hound

Great Anglo-Francais White and Black Hound

Great Anglo-Francais White and Orange Hound

Griffon Bleu de Gascogne

Griffon Fauve de Bretagne

Griffon Nivernais

Haldenstover (Halden Hound)

Hamiltonstovare (Rev. 06/01/2012)

Hanoverian Hound

Harrier

Hellenic Hound

Hygen Hound

Istrian Coarse-Haired Hound

Istrian Short-Haired Hound

Italian Hound

Montenegrin Mountain Hound

Mountain Cur

Otterhound

Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen

Petit Bleu De Gascogne

Petit Gascon-Saintongeois

Plott Hound (Rev. 01/01/2011)

Poitevin

Polish Hound

Porcelaine

Posavaz Hound

Redbone Coonhound (Rev. 01/01/2011)

Schiller Hound

Serbian Hound

Serbian Tricolor Hound

Smaland Hound

Small Swiss Hound

Spanish Hound

Stephens' Cur

Styrian Coarse Haired Hound

Swiss Hound

Transylvanian Hound

Treeing Cur

Treeing Walker Coonhound (Rev. 01/01/2011)

Tyrolean Hound

Welsh Hound

Westphalian Dachsbracke

Posted by Blacklabel on 03-17-2013 01:21 AM:

Im just saying they should stop being like AKC and start being a performance registery as it should be for working dogs.

And if you register a dog as crossbred breed it to a pure, them pups should be crossbred. Crossbred to crossbred makes crossbred pups.

Same paperwork as purebreds, same amount of money in their pockets.

Lets call these competition crosses, gamedogs and cocks its called battle crosses. To get get some hybrid vigor. It works but we all know it may not reproduce. Some will most wont.

Im not a breeder i hunt the dogs, i have friends who are breeders and they even like the crossbreeds, because they perform.

Again jmo

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Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 03-17-2013 01:34 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Blacklabel
Im just saying they should stop being like AKC and start being a performance registery as it should be for working dogs.

And if you register a dog as crossbred breed it to a pure, them pups should be crossbred. Crossbred to crossbred makes crossbred pups.

Same paperwork as purebreds, same amount of money in their pockets.

Lets call these competition crosses, gamedogs and cocks its called battle crosses. To get get some hybrid vigor. It works but we all know it may not reproduce. Some will most wont.

Im not a breeder i hunt the dogs, i have friends who are breeders and they even like the crossbreeds, because they perform.

Again jmo

I agree with that...register them the same as purebreeds....just call them what they are and let em compete just like any other registered dog can.

Posted by Blacklabel on 03-17-2013 05:39 PM:

UKC

Well UKC Allen, lay it on us son. Why wont it ever happen?

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Posted by pigman816 on 03-17-2013 05:39 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Outlaw
I agree with that...register them the same as purebreeds....just call them what they are and let em compete just like any other registered dog can.

Yep!

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Posted by Blacklabel on 03-19-2013 12:22 PM:

ALLEN,

Could you shine some light on this please.

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Posted by pigman816 on 03-19-2013 04:16 PM:

Why not???

It seems to be the only fair thing to do. Plus, me personally, if I had a crossbred dog, or wanted to have a crossbred dog, I would want to register it for what it was and be proud of what I have. I wouldn't want to call it a bluetick, english or anything else. Does that make any sense? Hope we get at least an explanation as to why there isn't, or maybe open the lines of communication for this to be an option? .....Jim

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Posted by deschmidt27 on 03-19-2013 07:19 PM:

I guess I'm confused on what the goal is???

I've read through three pages of posts and seen some very good points made, but I'm not sure what we're trying to acheive?

If you just want to compete, go to a local club or buddy hunt. If you want it to be a more sanctioned event, go to an NKC hunt, that has some pretty liberal standards. Or it sounds like PKC has a methodology, as well.

But if you are wanting to "register" dogs, then either breed two dogs of the same breed together, or if you have some great idea on a new breed, then devote your life to helping develop a new breed. But "breeds" and registration of breeds, should mean something. It's an attempt at a purification of certain traits (I did say attempt). It's the acknowledgement of those desired traits, as something we want to maintain and repeat.

If you want to breed mixed hounds... do so.
If you want to compete your mixed hounds... hold a buddy hunt.

But why would we ask an organization whose whole purpose is "pedigree", to sanction the exact oppposite?!?

JMO

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Posted by pigman816 on 03-19-2013 08:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by deschmidt27
I guess I'm confused on what the goal is???

If you want to breed mixed hounds... do so.
If you want to compete your mixed hounds... hold a buddy hunt.

But why would we ask an organization whose whole purpose is "pedigree", to sanction the exact oppposite?!?

JMO

Well, first thing is that these crosses are being made now. The people making them are being forced to single register them as a "purebred". i.e....walker x blue=english. My only point is that if the crosses are being made, why would we not want those guys to register them as crossbred vs. purebred? The dogs are going to get registered either way. They should be registered for what they are. Plus, everyone should be able to compete together. JMO

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Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 03-19-2013 08:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by deschmidt27
I guess I'm confused on what the goal is???

I've read through three pages of posts and seen some very good points made, but I'm not sure what we're trying to acheive?

If you just want to compete, go to a local club or buddy hunt. If you want it to be a more sanctioned event, go to an NKC hunt, that has some pretty liberal standards. Or it sounds like PKC has a methodology, as well.

But if you are wanting to "register" dogs, then either breed two dogs of the same breed together, or if you have some great idea on a new breed, then devote your life to helping develop a new breed. But "breeds" and registration of breeds, should mean something. It's an attempt at a purification of certain traits (I did say attempt). It's the acknowledgement of those desired traits, as something we want to maintain and repeat.

If you want to breed mixed hounds... do so.
If you want to compete your mixed hounds... hold a buddy hunt.

But why would we ask an organization whose whole purpose is "pedigree", to sanction the exact oppposite?!?

JMO

Very well said sir!
This topic sprang up from some heated conversations on the redbone forum. The redbone breed, like the bluetick breed and others do not allow known crossbreeds to be single registered as redbones...for the reason you just stated. They are making an honest attempt to keep the breed as pure as possible.
Well, it has become evident that there are a few who wan't to crossbreed rebones with other breeds and because of their color dominance some of the pups will look enough like a redbone that it could pass the looks portion of the breed standards....so they want to see the redbone association rule against registering known crossbreeds as redbones overturned and opened up so that any crossbreed that looks the part can be registered as a redbone. I have disagreed with this as have many others and do not want to see all this foreign blood allowed into the redbone breed through dogs that "look the part".
I think it goes against what most breeders have been trying to do for over 100 years in this and other breeds which is to breed for not only a certain color standard...but certain traits and characteristics that are unique to each breed when those breeds are kept pure. Granted...there are those who get around the rule and will lie or place false papers on a crossbreed and it winds up in the mix anyway...but most honest people won't and do not respect those who would stoop to such a thing.
So that is a little history behind this thread and topic...hope it makes a little more sense of the way some have responded to it....Shane

Posted by john Duemmer on 03-19-2013 08:59 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Outlaw
Very well same sir!
This topic sprang up from some heated conversations on the redbone forum. The redbone breed, like the bluetick breed and others do not allow known crossbreeds to be single registered as redbones...for the reason you just stated. They are making an honest attempt to keep the breed as pure as possible.
Well, it has become evident that there are a few who wan't to crossbreed rebones with other breeds and because of their color dominance some of the pups will look enough like a redbone that it could pass the looks portion of the breed standards....so they want to see the redbone association rule against registering known crossbreeds as redbones overturned and opened up so that any crossbreed that looks the part can be registered as a redbone. I have disagreed with this as have many others and do not want to see all this foreign blood allowed into the redbone breed through dogs that "look the part".
I think it goes against what most breeders have been trying to do for over 100 years in this and other breeds which is to breed for not only a certain color standard...but certain traits and characteristics that are unique to each breed when those breeds are kept pure. Granted...there are those who get around the rule and will lie or place false papers on a crossbreed and it winds up in the mix anyway...but most honest people won't and do not respect those who would stoop to such a thing.
So that is a little history behind this thread and topic...hope it makes a little more sense of the way some have responded to it....Shane

If the redbone Assc. doesnt allow known crossbreeds to be single registered, how did Little red get in?

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Posted by deschmidt27 on 03-19-2013 09:12 PM:

James and Shane - thanks for your clarification. I would agree with you guys, in that we do need to handle the aspect of what can be registered, and under what circumstances. And in the spirit of that dialogue, my personal opinion is that we shouldn't "register" or "pedigree" something that is not worthy of a pedigree, simply to generate money or satisfy someone's competitive spirit.

Registering a mix or cross breed, sounds like a convoluted way to make money on officially calling something a mutt! Single registering something, is like saying it's not quite what I say it is!?!

So those are valid arguments and points to be made, otherwise I'm back to holding a buddy hunt or spending the time to officially pedigree something that is worthy of a pedigree.

Thank you for your perspective!

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Posted by michael.magorian on 03-19-2013 09:14 PM:

I have been reading this for a while, and the only resolution to the problem is quite simple and has been ignored by the powers that be. The breed associations do have their own breed standards that can be enforced however they decide. Now many of them will not allow you to knowingly single-register a cross-breed, but if you say you don't know then it is okay. Each breed has its own cross-breeds that changed and benefited the breed and did some winning, whether everyone will admit to it or not, that's a different story.

Why would someone want to knowingly single-register a cross-breed? The answer is simple, to compete and earn titles. I live in an area where there are very few competition hunts near by, and the ones that are relatively close are UKC hunts. So, arguably, it can be said that the UKC is kind of the be-all, end-all for competitions.

So if the UKC would allow cross-breeds to somehow compete and earn titles, then people probably wouldn't try to pass off cross-breeds in the single-registration.

So UKC, why wouldn't you allow this to happen? It would solve many problems for the breed associations, and provide for more honest documentation of hounds. This is just my opinion, but to me the solution is really pretty simple.

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