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Originally posted by casey brown
What a foolish statement.I don't guess you read my post in a comprehensive and conceptual manner. I WAS SAYING WE SHOULDN'T SHRUG OFF HIS ACCUSATIONS. I don't know how you came away with the idea that I was a progressive. Far from it actually. I am just sitting here dumbfounded that you actually made this political. I simply stated that for someone to do something like that is extreme, and it needs to be investigated. His accusations shouldn't be ignored because he is crazy. Just because I agreed with Truly doesn't mean I am progressive. What a narrow minded view.




Oh by the way..... My original question was if people had read his manifesto? That is what lead me to my comment.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dorner. Crazy. Right?

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Originally posted by rance56

all of these things are well known, most folks deal with it at some point or the other, and we move on.

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i have to agree with truly, on this one. according to homeland security the alleged murder can be labeled a terrorist and hunted with cia drones.


According to Janet Napolitano and her boss, the REAL danger emanates from the:

“Extreme right-wing: groups that believe that one’s personal and/or national ‘way of life’ is under attack and is either lost or that the threat is imminent (for some the threat is from a specific ethnic, racial or religious group), and believe in the need to be prepared for an attack either by participating in paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism. Groups may also be fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation), anti-global, suspicious of centralized federal authority, reverent of individual liberty and believe in conspiracy theories that involve grave threat to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty.”

truly, i believe that i have seen a couple of your post, that seem to be suspicious of the federal govt.,so they could come after you too. unless you got a "get out of jail free" card from pres. obama last week at the anti-gun rally.

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Originally posted by SoShadow


truly, i believe that i have seen a couple of your post, that seem to be suspicious of the federal govt.,so they could come after you too. unless you got a "get out of jail free" card from pres. obama last week at the anti-gun rally.

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ending slavery. women right to vote. civil rights movement..... ......all started with one radical.

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"Kim Jong-Un speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.” An actual sitting US President said that. Let that sink in.

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Originally posted by SoShadow

truly, i believe that i have seen a couple of your post, that seem to be suspicious of the federal govt.,so they could come after you too. unless you got a "get out of jail free" card from pres. obama last week at the anti-gun rally.

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Originally posted by truly
Not everyone just moves on. Some people grow a backbone and stand their ground. The first one who does is seen as a radical. after the radical is wiped out 10 more pop up. when those 10 get wiped out 100 more rise up and pretty soon their view is the norm. and society is better off for it.

ending slavery. women right to vote. civil rights movement. Christianity. all started with one radical.

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Originally posted by truly

I am still of the mind that what this guy did is wrong and he needs to be brought to justice. But considering the complicit nature of our main stream media and law enforcement in getting their stories to match, how would we know otherwise?

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Originally posted by rance56
the hypocrasy of the left is amazing. when it came to the sandy hook shooting we are suppose to take the police report as gospel and we are bucnh of lunatics if we question it, but when it fits your agenda you want to openly question the motives of the media and law enforecement. if yall werent so dangerous it would be comical

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Originally posted by rance56
wow, so now you dont have a backbone if you disagree with something yet dont do anything violent to change it? get out of here with that crap.

MLK practiced reform without violence and look at the change he spear headed. the man in the oval office needs to take some leadership lessons from the dr.

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i still say

sic the dogs on him and take him out thats the only justice for him he crazy and will contiue to kill innocent peope find him and take him out

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Originally posted by trackdriver
What innocent people? Maybe they should've they said they had wmds in their pockets and y'all might be ok with that.

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Originally posted by hillbilly56
id say before its all over he is going to kill people that weren't envoled in his firing so sic the dogs on him and take him out thats my story and im stickin to it

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Rance from reading alot of your posts anything someone else posts that you dont like is always a bunch of crap. Its their opinion. Just like you have one. Or is no one else aloud to have one.

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Originally posted by oscar
Rance from reading alot of your posts anything someone else posts that you dont like is always a bunch of crap. Its their opinion. Just like you have one. Or is no one else aloud to have one.

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The use of drones to "search" worrys me ALOT.......although he basicly admitted guilt in his online rant(or at least someone did)......were still a country where you are innocent untill proven guilty. IN COURT. The drone thing.........well its not a far jump to just say "did it" and pass judgement. it makes the exutive branch judge, jury, and exicutioner........and that is NEVER good. there are 3 branches for a reason.

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Originally posted by truly
Yes, it was an AR-15
I have posted above and provided the link to a press release from the Commissioners desk at the STATE OF CONNECTICUT
Department of Emergency Services & Public Protection, Connecticut State Police Public Information Office and yet you were able to close your eyes to this info.

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Originally posted by truly

I am still of the mind that what this guy did is wrong and he needs to be brought to justice. But considering the complicit nature of our main stream media and law enforcement in getting their stories to match, how would we know otherwise?

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Originally posted by rance56
the hypocrasy of the left is amazing. when it came to the sandy hook shooting we are suppose to take the police report as gospel and we are bucnh of lunatics if we question it, but when it fits your agenda you want to openly question the motives of the media and law enforecement. if yall werent so dangerous it would be comical

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Originally posted by JiM
Thank you. I always wonder what habeus corpus was.

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Originally posted by conhtr1
hypocracy.....ya think?

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Originally posted by truly
right back at ya'. You guys seriously think that the state sheriffs dept, state coroners office, first responders and all of the parents and friends of the 26 victims at Sandy Hook all conspired together to lie about the exact weapon used so that they could help support anti gun legislation? Despite [as oklared has posted] some of the parents of the deceased children are strongly pro gun/pro 2nd amendment? And considering just how crooked all of these folks in Newtown are, all of the different law enforcement agencies, all of the medical examiners.... but you have absolute faith in the LAPD? That the LAPD would NEVER EVER try to cover up accusations of brutality?
Try putting your thinking cap on for just a moment... Think a little about MOTIVE. Anyone who was accused of police brutality would attempt to deny or at least down play it. The motive is so obvious.
But despite the obviousness of that motive, it can not be denied that Dorner would also have motive to lie/exaggerate about brutality.
I think there is very little question that he is guilty of killing three people.
I think no one questions that those killings are wrong and illegal.

But if you remember where this thread started- does that make him crazy? If you are witness to a grievous wrong and you do nothing about it then are you any less crazy than the person who over reacts?

I think in todays society we throw the label "crazy" around as a one size fits all explanation when the real answer is much more complex.........

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Originally posted by truly
right back at ya'. You guys seriously think that the state sheriffs dept, state coroners office, first responders and all of the parents and friends of the 26 victims at Sandy Hook all conspired together to lie about the exact weapon used so that they could help support anti gun legislation?

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Originally posted by truly
I think there is very little question that he is guilty of killing three people.
I think no one questions that those killings are wrong and illegal.

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Originally posted by truly
right back at ya'. You guys seriously think that the state sheriffs dept, state coroners office, first responders and all of the parents and friends of the 26 victims at Sandy Hook all conspired together to lie about the exact weapon used so that they could help support anti gun legislation? Despite [as oklared has posted] some of the parents of the deceased children are strongly pro gun/pro 2nd amendment? And considering just how crooked all of these folks in Newtown are, all of the different law enforcement agencies, all of the medical examiners.... but you have absolute faith in the LAPD? That the LAPD would NEVER EVER try to cover up accusations of brutality?
Try putting your thinking cap on for just a moment... Think a little about MOTIVE. Anyone who was accused of police brutality would attempt to deny or at least down play it. The motive is so obvious.
But despite the obviousness of that motive, it can not be denied that Dorner would also have motive to lie/exaggerate about brutality.
I think there is very little question that he is guilty of killing three people.
I think no one questions that those killings are wrong and illegal.

But if you remember where this thread started- does that make him crazy? If you are witness to a grievous wrong and you do nothing about it then are you any less crazy than the person who over reacts?

I think in todays society we throw the label "crazy" around as a one size fits all explanation when the real answer is much more complex.........

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Not going to try and defend this guy for what he has done, but the huge scope of the manhunt looks a little fishy, making me think maybe this guy had some dirt on someone real powerful.
Its not always cut and dry in the world we live in, and not always a good idea to assume that the guys in blue are the good guys.
Relying on and judgeing a situation based on what the press tells us isnt always a good idea either, they always seem to have an agenda of their own.

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I know one thing. If I saw myself on the news as a suspect for shooting people I think I would call nine 1 one and tell them to have the local sheriff meet me at his office so we could get this straightened out.

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You guys seriously think that the state sheriffs dept, state coroners office, first responders and all of the parents and friends of the 26 victims at Sandy Hook all conspired together to lie about the exact weapon used so that they could help support anti gun legislation?

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"Kim Jong-Un speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.” An actual sitting US President said that. Let that sink in.

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Originally posted by john Duemmer
Not going to try and defend this guy for what he has done, but the huge scope of the manhunt looks a little fishy, making me think maybe this guy had some dirt on someone real powerful.
Its not always cut and dry in the world we live in, and not always a good idea to assume that the guys in blue are the good guys.
Relying on and judgeing a situation based on what the press tells us isnt always a good idea either, they always seem to have an agenda of their own.

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