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How many of you would let a cast come in late ?????? You say its different on the front end ( entry ) but late is late ....... If your goin to allow it on the one end then you have to allow it on the other.....

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Originally posted by GA DAWG
Its happened at our club in the last yr. Trouble is. If you allow more time. Where do you cut it off? 1 min, 10 min 20 min, 30 min, 1 hour? Where?

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Originally posted by englishbuddy
How many of you would let a cast come in late ?????? You say its different on the front end ( entry ) but late is late ....... If your goin to allow it on the one end then you have to allow it on the other.....

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Originally posted by Dirtdevil
How often is someone a few minutes late and not allowed to hunt ? It's silly to me that the MOH isn't allowed to decide if the reason is legit and let them hunt ... but it's also silly that some of these threads span severap pages and in the real world it only happens once in a great while , lol ...

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Originally posted by JiM
In all my years of going to UKC hunts, I have never seen or even heard of anyone walking in after deadline and being allowed to enter anyway nor have I ever seen or heard of a card being accepted for scoring after deadline.

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Yep. What they said. I've been two minutes late and seven minutes late....and pleasure hunted my way home. Rules are rules. Play by them or go home.

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my buddy that got me into nite hunts ALWAYS leaves with hardly any time to spare....


me, i am not driving all that way to be late...i always leave ATLEAST a half hour early...usually about an hour early....ive ran into accidents, bridges out that costed me a good bit of time, etc...


gotta draw the line and stick by that line...

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Originally posted by Dirtdevil
It's called judgement .. same as a cop letting you off for speeding , he don't get fired and folks don't cry out that the next thing is that cops will be letting folks off for going 90 in a school zone .. it just makes sense that some situations deserve exception .

It's just a coonhunt , the rules and way some of it is carried out just add self importance to the sport when regular importance runs out .

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Feel bad for u sucks on all sides I myself always leave 45min to a 1hr early even for a local hunt and if ab distance away I plan about extra hr to the total trip time

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I have missed deadline by 30 seconds before on a hunt. Not their fault, buy a hotdog and a drink and leave earlier next time.... But yes I wanted to vent alittle myself!
One thing though lots of clubs in lots of areas signs are horrible/non existing and gps direction do not lead to club house. Still not their fault though, if I can't get there on time it will always be on us.........As far as bending the rules//crap on that; the rules are simple, direct and written out for you abide by them completely or your cheatin. Brother to a cheat is a thief and we most all have the same thoughts on how to deal with one of those.....

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Provided I've not read all comments within this thread but recieved an email regarding Conditional Entries when it comes to "late runners". This may or may not have been included in the discussions in this thread. Regardless, the following response addresses that matter.

David,

You're not wrong in not allowing entry to a "late runner" calling you and asking (the official or club officer) you enter their dog as Conditional. There are two things that must happen before any entry can be accepted.

1). It must be entered before the deadline.
2). It must be paid for before the deadline.

As you know, a Conditional Entry is one where the participant does not have the required form of entry in his/her possession at the time (EZ Entry Card or dog's Registration Certificate). In that case they may enter the dog providing the most accurate information they can. The official does not have the authority to "require" any form of proof such as a note with the dogs UKC number, copies of its EZ Entry Card or Registration Certificate etc.. Instead they should simply include the dogs full registered name (if known), owner name and city and state would be helpful. Never have them guess at a UKC number. It's better to leave that portion as "NA" opposed to a wrong number that might only create more confusion when it comes to processing a report on UKC's end. And we do get a significant amount of "can't figure out what dog this is" when processing wins for dogs entered as Conditional.

Here is the part where the misconception and confusion likely comes from. Because an entry may be accepted as Conditional; technically anyone can enter anyone else's dog. Here's an example:

You're the MOH at the club. I'm there at the grounds. I get a call from my buddy Mr. Thompson stating he's afraid he might be a few minutes late and asks me to enter his dog. Luckily I have an extra $20 in my pocket so I grab an entry form and fill out his dog's information. I enter the dog for him including paying the additional Conditional $5 fee. This form of calling a buddy to enter their dog is acceptable so long as I entered and paid the entry to you.

What club officers and the official should not get caught up in or be obligated is to take calls from a "late runner" and expect them (the official or club contact) to enter their dog and pay for it. In order to keep a handle on this issue we've made the policy that the entry MUST BE PAID FOR by deadline also.

Finally, the other policy we've put in place for that "late running" entry is that when you (MOH) calls out the casts that "late runner" better be there when his dog is called. Otherwise, the entry is scratched from the cast immediately. NO WAITING AROUND for the "late runner" FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME!

Hopefully, this clarifies any concerns you may have.

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Originally posted by Allen / UKC


Finally, the other policy we've put in place for that "late running" entry is that when you (MOH) calls out the casts that "late runner" better be there when his dog is called. Otherwise, the entry is scratched from the cast immediately. NO WAITING AROUND for the "late runner" FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME!

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