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Posted by l.lyle on 10-05-2012 04:35 AM:

I already posted on page 1 but this thread got me thinking on how come I can hardly remember the last time I had a pup or old dog tree a possum. I hunted walkers for many years and treed a few but not many possums and it didn't really bother me unless they treed a possum back of the other side of a swamp I had just toted a coon back across. As time went on the walkers I kept messed with less and less possums. I never really understood why they were treeing coons across the swamp when there was coons on this side of the swamp so I started trying some mountain curs and don't remember a possum with them and I assumed it was because By the time they would tree they already knew I was after coons. Then I did the same thing with leopard hound/curs. I started them with my walkers that were getting old by then and they have never messed with any trash. The old walker finally died and I have been using Leopards to train pups for about three generations now. I know I better knock on wood. If I had the type of pups that ignored the old dogs like they were deaf I might have a big problem but again , by the time they do anything on their own they already have had a good many coons in their mouth so I think they pretty well know what we are hunting for and leave other stuff alone.. I ought not be posting on a breaking thread.


Posted by cooncrazy30 on 10-31-2012 12:21 AM:

I heard ammonia would break one! Most affective way to get the dog an possome soaked in ammonia togther?

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Posted by hillbilly56 on 10-31-2012 02:08 AM:

break them

the old school way when they tree 1 tie them back shoot it out and beat them with it till they think they gonna die if they got any sense they wont ever tree another 1 jmo


Posted by Dirtdevil on 10-31-2012 02:10 AM:

Never shoot it out , that's a tried and true rule that pre-dates what most think is old school ... it goes back to what God wrote on the back of that tablet the ten commandments were wrote on ...


Posted by hillbilly56 on 10-31-2012 02:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dirtdevil
Never shoot it out , that's a tried and true rule that pre-dates what most think is old school ... it goes back to what God wrote on the back of that tablet the ten commandments were wrote on ...
lol im old school i broke quite a few that way but everybody got thier own opion and thier way guess that why get so many differnt ways on a post like this i dont like changes lol


Posted by Dirtdevil on 10-31-2012 02:25 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by hillbilly56
lol im old school i broke quite a few that way but everybody got thier own opion and thier way guess that why get so many differnt ways on a post like this i dont like changes lol


that way works because a smart dog will eventually figure out what you want despite you doing it wrong ... that's why they say you gotta be smarter than the dog .. not everyone is.

It it very confusing for a dog to watch you kill game and not think you want him to help you catch it ... that's not opinion , that's basic stuff like east and west ....

Dogs are monkey see - monkey do .... they can only pick up on what they see you do ... and their sense and intuition are better than ours so we can't trick them as easy as we think.

Slamming on the brakes to dump them on deer and then shock them ... highly confusing to a dog that isn't deaf , dumb and blind ... and a trashy dog will just outsmart you anyway ... it's not hard to figure out.

Dogs know exactly what kind of hunter you are and what you can tell about them ... it's a chore to stay ahead of them and get one trained smoothly and to stay consistant ...


Posted by hillbilly56 on 10-31-2012 02:42 AM:

well

im a part time hunter now im 62 and in the early stages of parkisons diease but now when i was younger i hunted abot every night it was fit and some that man nor beast should have been out i hunted with my granpap when i was a little fellar when he passed i started getting my own dogs ive owned hounds and beagles for 48 yrs so ive done alot of hunting in my life we didnt have a shock collar back when i was young we had to run em down head off and go to beatin on i did invest in a schock collar about 7 yrs ago it does make things easier but i wont shock a dog on a tree i keep reading these post i might learn something from you younger gen of hunters aint be a smart butt just telling you what kind of hunter i am or was till my health went south now i need a flashlight dog so i can keep up lol


Posted by HuckFinn on 10-31-2012 04:32 AM:

I had a bitch was treeing possums and i pulled her aside, held her face up close to mine and pinched my thumbnails into ears for about 20 seconds then then stared into her eyes for about five minutes without letting her turn away. Theres something about forcing a dog to look you in the eye. She never treed another possum.

P.S. My dog had been vocally corrected a few times before, so she knew better.


Posted by dbprofitt56 on 10-31-2012 05:57 PM:

Re: Best way to brake a hound of treeing grinners!

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Originally posted by cooncrazy30
Got a stubborn hound who needs broke off possumes! Looking for ideas!


My dog is scared to death of an oppossum, but he can't resist treein em`! He's been shocked and beat on, but he'll still tree one! Guess I'll just live with it!

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Posted by blueticker on 10-31-2012 06:13 PM:

I have broke hounds from treeing opposums several different ways. Had good luck running a broke dog with the possum dog and using tri-tronics if the broke dog didn't join in. The Garmin has assisted in making sure the old dog has checked things out. I never shoot out anything to my pups except coon. I may turn out on a possum and shock the dog for catching one. I have shocked a dog after throwing a live possum in the dog box with them. That works pretty good on breaking one. The hard headed or dump dogs are tough to break sometimes.

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Posted by dbiek on 10-31-2012 06:57 PM:

drive over possum with truck back up 100 ft get dog out of box walk him to it then let the 3200 sport dog do its thing . that way your not messing with dog around tree.

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Posted by Dale Young on 11-01-2012 12:01 AM:

Over the years I've found several fresh killed possums that I never heard a bark on so I figure some hounds learned it was OK to give em a quick shake and go on as long as they didn't get caught doing it.


Posted by michael.magorian on 11-01-2012 03:41 PM:

Read my post on breaking dogs off skunks, and you will learn everything you need to know.

http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthrea...eadid=928276854

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Posted by skeets on 11-01-2012 09:31 PM:

if that dont break em michael then they just cant be broke.lol


Posted by hillbilly56 on 11-01-2012 09:55 PM:

hey skeets

you think dirt devil is trying to tell me mt dogs smarter than i am no wonder i lose every arugment i get in to with the wife always in the dog house lol


Posted by Dirtdevil on 11-01-2012 10:55 PM:

Re: hey skeets

quote:
Originally posted by hillbilly56
you think dirt devil is trying to tell me mt dogs smarter than i am no wonder i lose every arugment i get in to with the wife always in the dog house lol



They are starting to crack down on bullying , maybe married men can get some help after all these years .


Posted by hillbilly56 on 11-01-2012 11:03 PM:

Re: Re: hey skeets

quote:
Originally posted by Dirtdevil
They are starting to crack down on bullying , maybe married men can get some help after all these years .
when ya married to a 350 lb fat lady you just say yes mam betternot say no mam you in big trouble lol


Posted by MoRiverBuck on 11-29-2012 07:48 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by triker
shinerunner did you get beat for everything you did wrong



Real good idea.... Beat the dog... You must train dogs for a living.....

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Posted by I speak English on 11-30-2012 01:28 AM:

Dont ever shot it in front of the hound!

Try the cage posum in the kennel trick. It works. I'v done it befor for a frinds dog & this dog WAS the best dang possum dog this side of the mississippi. (JMO)

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Posted by chaz2012 on 11-30-2012 05:10 PM:

ATTENTION!!!!!! Here is the best way !!!! Now listen caefully !!!!
Put your dog in a escape proof kennel so it can never get out !!!! Never hunt it again!!!! Guarenteed to work every time!!!

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