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Originally posted by Rip
A flat tax for all. Whatever that may be. 10% is enough for God himself so it SHOULD be enough for the gubment.

But even if it were 18%, it's still the same percentage for everyone. No more of this crap of one paying nothing, one getting a bribe (getting earned income credit to the point they "get back" more money than they paid in in taxes, and no more of one paying 10% and somebody else paying 35%.

One flat tax for all is the most fair way to do it.

Because it's fair the liberals will never go for it. They ain't happy unless they are punnishing success and stealing from everyone they can.

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Cost of school in Minnesota.
MN. Chancellor of State college and University. yearly salary $429,172
President of Mankato State yearly salary $304,514
President of St Cloud State Yearly Salary $303,263
These are just 3 and none of these even teach add their salaries to all the professors' salaries that run from $100,000 to over $200,000 a year and that is why it cost so much to go to school. Plus the fact most students go for 6 years. Just saying.

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ok i have read this and some posts really piss me off and some have very good points. I am a father of three wonderful kids and a great wife that supported all the way through school. When I say supported she would give that needed nudge to get out the door to go to school. Which I did and I worked full time and carried a full load and I had student loans to help also. My tution was around 3200 a semster at Pitt State University here in KS. I earned my BSE and will finish my Masters in Ed. this spring. I will also say that I had help through the GI bill which I served this country well for 12 yrs. so that people could go to college any way they can. Many states National Gaurd Units will pay for your college if you go to school in state so if you want to gripe about the cost of college then join the military to help pay your way through school and get off your a$$e$ and do something about it.

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but if you dont work how much do you pay?
you get food,house a cadilac health care.
you guys are to funny and i am jealous as hell
of the 1 that get by with it.why dont we just throw
insurance co out the window and see how much a night
stay cost and credit cards they cost somebody.

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I graduated from a local community college with a process operations degree, and decided not to go to a 4-year school. A University these days cost way to much money as someone posted some prices earlier an they are pretty accuarate. I know a bunch of people I went to high school with that graduated from major universitys an cant get a job. Almost all of them went back to a community college to earn a trade of some sort or a program. It has seemed like in my experiance most of those students chose a slow carrer path with not much demand because it would have been a gravy office job. You know the old saying their is too many cheifs and not enough Indians. Yall are right americans are getting too lazy an are waiting on a handouts. There is nothing wrong with a young person working with their hands thats how america was built. While I was in school taking 15 hours a week I done lawn care service and I also worked at a local feed store for 8.00/ hour about 35 hours a week loading feed sacks all day in the heat. Thats how I made my spending money an coon hunting fund money. My Parents helped out with school payments but it was pretty cheap compared to most about 1200 a semester with NO GRANTS.

I worked extreamly hard in school and work an im proud of where I am today. I was offered a Internship with Chevron oil Refinery as soon as I graduated college. When my Internship was over Shell oil offered me a job an now Im currently in operations at a shell refinery. The point of the story is make sure there is a demand in the field your going in, and you dont have to go to a major university to get a good job, there is no shame with working with your hand while going to school how else are you suppose to learn how to do anything in life. I have NEVER been the smartest in class, but HARD WORK an DEDICATION will get you where you want to be in life most of the time. If your waiting for a hand out now you will be waiting for a hand out the rest of your life cause it aint happening! I feel extreamly blessed although times got rough an hard it worked out for me and I HOPE things work for yall and your family members going trough school an looking for a job.

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The 47% he is talking about is

my neighbors down the road.....there is a young uneducated boy/man who quit school in the 9th grade because he was smarter than the teacher. His daddy did the same thing and so did his daddy. they couldnt keep a job longer than a few months because the the boss was always an idiot. (go figure)
He is shacking up with a girl about his age around 25. she has 4 children by 4 different babies daddies and gets food stamps, free food for her kids even in the summer while school is out. Gets a free cell phone (anybody getting food stamps is getting this phone). She does not work and doesnt want to work. He works at some factory and they stay broke all the time. she is off the books and they sell some of the food stamps each month for drug money and they stay high all the time and he has had at least 2 dwi's.
He works long enough to get laid off because he is a slacker and then gets almost two years of unemployment.

this is not made up. I can take you around brokeback mississippi and show you a hundred cases just like this.

This is the dad gum problem,

Obama has made this a handout society taking food stamps from 17 million to 45 million in 3.5 years. They get free Cell phones!!!!!
WILL YOU PLEASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSE EXPLAIN THAT TO ME???

We are 16 trillion in debt. this president has spent more money in 4 years than all 43 presidents before him combined.

Mitt is not talking about School folks, sick folks, or disabled folks.. He is talking about the lazy, good for nothing , sleep with anybody to get pregnant so they dont have to work women and lazy no count uneducated ignorant men who had rather pop precription pain killers and either steal for them or sell their food stamps for them.

We are going off a cliff and we cant even agree on it. the scriptures said we will exchange the truth for a lie.
You guys that believe Obama is doing a good job and are going to vote for him you have blood on your hands you are going to shoot a hole in your own boat and we are going to drown because of your ignorance and stupidity.
God forgive us!!!!!

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Are you my neighbor cause that sounds like the people living down the road from me too! extreamly lazy

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Kyle McMellon
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not sure where Hurley is, but I have

family in tupelo and I have cousins that are these people and I know their neighbors who are those people.
This is the stark truth that nobody wants to admit.
The gig is up. the curtain is being pulled back on the wizard of Oz.
Obama was the least presidental ready president we have ever had.

He openly admits he is a socialist and wants to take from those that have worked for their money and give it to my neighbors down the road so they can stay stoned out of their minds.

If you believe in Obama and what he is doing, then take about 40 percent of your bring home pay and go down your road and hand it out to everybody living in a trailor with at least 3 vehicles up on blocks with three snot nosed kids in diapers running around the yard holding on to a pitbull with the mange.
This is not a joke. This is what I see on every road I drive on in my county.
You want me to post a pic of the truth for you to see.
This is the most God awful president we have ever had or ever will have.


You mark this down...if Obama gets back in, we will be Judged by God and we will Reap the votes YOU folk gave to get him in.
Israel is going to bomb Iran and you will not recognize what you see in right here in this USA and you will not be able to get your vote back. I didnt know wont cut it.

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Why am I here ? And Where am I headed.

Some around here got lay off. Then they draw for 99 weeks. Work other places for cash and never pay a dime. Make more than I do. Ain't gonna hunt a job as long as they can draw. Atleast with a flat tax. They'd be having to pay. I know nothing about food stamps. I guess they ain't any taxes on food bought with em?????

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Re: The 47% he is talking about is

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Originally posted by cripple creek
my neighbors down the road.....there is a young uneducated boy/man who quit school in the 9th grade because he was smarter than the teacher. His daddy did the same thing and so did his daddy. they couldnt keep a job longer than a few months because the the boss was always an idiot. (go figure)
He is shacking up with a girl about his age around 25. she has 4 children by 4 different babies daddies and gets food stamps, free food for her kids even in the summer while school is out. Gets a free cell phone (anybody getting food stamps is getting this phone). She does not work and doesnt want to work. He works at some factory and they stay broke all the time. she is off the books and they sell some of the food stamps each month for drug money and they stay high all the time and he has had at least 2 dwi's.
He works long enough to get laid off because he is a slacker and then gets almost two years of unemployment.

this is not made up. I can take you around brokeback mississippi and show you a hundred cases just like this.

This is the dad gum problem,

Obama has made this a handout society taking food stamps from 17 million to 45 million in 3.5 years. They get free Cell phones!!!!!
WILL YOU PLEASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSE EXPLAIN THAT TO ME???

We are 16 trillion in debt. this president has spent more money in 4 years than all 43 presidents before him combined.

Mitt is not talking about School folks, sick folks, or disabled folks.. He is talking about the lazy, good for nothing , sleep with anybody to get pregnant so they dont have to work women and lazy no count uneducated ignorant men who had rather pop precription pain killers and either steal for them or sell their food stamps for them.

We are going off a cliff and we cant even agree on it. the scriptures said we will exchange the truth for a lie.
You guys that believe Obama is doing a good job and are going to vote for him you have blood on your hands you are going to shoot a hole in your own boat and we are going to drown because of your ignorance and stupidity.
God forgive us!!!!!

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The thing that bothers me (well one of the things lol) is that I believe that we need food stamps and some other forms of government assistance. However they are being so abused and like everything else one bad apple spoils the bunch. I've heard it said many times that welfare is suppose to be a hand up not a hand out. If people don't want to better themselves and put there hands out instead of putting them to work then why should us people that are putting in long hours at work, taking care of families and trying to squeeze in some hunting pay the bill? My sister in law lost her job a couple months ago and is on unemployment (that's another topic) and has found a part time job. The job doesn't pay quite as much as her old one but she was there for quite a few years so you have to start on the bottom and work up. The place that she is working is short handed and asked her to work some more hours for awhile to help them stay caught up and she doesn't want to because it will screw up her unemployment! What a joke! But yet they complain about money being tight. My dad always told me you are either part of the problem or part of the solution you can't be on both sides of the fence.

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Originally posted by shawnstovall
ok i have read this and some posts really piss me off and some have very good points. I am a father of three wonderful kids and a great wife that supported all the way through school. When I say supported she would give that needed nudge to get out the door to go to school. Which I did and I worked full time and carried a full load and I had student loans to help also. My tution was around 3200 a semster at Pitt State University here in KS. I earned my BSE and will finish my Masters in Ed. this spring. I will also say that I had help through the GI bill which I served this country well for 12 yrs. so that people could go to college any way they can. Many states National Gaurd Units will pay for your college if you go to school in state so if you want to gripe about the cost of college then join the military to help pay your way through school and get off your a$$e$ and do something about it.

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Originally posted by The Seeker
Cost of school in Minnesota.
MN. Chancellor of State college and University. yearly salary $429,172
President of Mankato State yearly salary $304,514
President of St Cloud State Yearly Salary $303,263
These are just 3 and none of these even teach add their salaries to all the professors' salaries that run from $100,000 to over $200,000 a year and that is why it cost so much to go to school. Plus the fact most students go for 6 years. Just saying.

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Originally posted by oklared
WASHINGTON (AP) - Nearly 6 million Americans - significantly more than first estimated- will face a tax penalty under President Barack Obama's health overhaul for not getting insurance, congressional analysts said Wednesday. Most would be in the middle class.

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Originally posted by The Seeker
I don't know what your problem is, but if you can't figure that salaries like those raise the price of education you got to be stupid. I got those figures from the paper in an article about the ridiculous salaries paid to some government employees. Even the people that investigated this were appalled.

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Lets sum it up this way......

Ask anyone who is on the government tit who they will vote for and their answer will be Obama. Left wing liberals not on the government tit will vote for him too. This is why Romney will never get elected!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by vernonsdream
do you realize how many important decisions($$$) are involved in top level administration positions, such as a PRESIDENT of a university? I think youre shining the wrong tree bud [/QUOT

People were complaining the cost of higher education. I posted one of the reasons that higher education was so high and if you can't see that that's your problem. If you bothered to read my post I never said they shouldn't get paid that much, I just gave what they made. There are 31 institutions of higher ed. in MN and each one has a president you don't think this raises the cost of education? By the way the Gov. of MN makes $120,000 a year but I don't think he's worth it. NOW YOU TELL ME WHERE I SAID THEY SHOULDN'T GET THAT MUCH IN MY ORIGINAL POST.

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Originally posted by billy doyce
Who do you think pays for these people's mri s, cat scans, kidney dialysis, heart surgeries, etc,etc, now? I would whole lot rather they be made buy insurance and let them pay for it than it be a write off and us tax payers pick up the tab. I am made to buy auto insurance. What's the difference? Another couple questions while I'm on the subject. Why in the world do you repubs hate to see a poor soul get something for nothing, when you go around bragging about the rich getting richer and beating the U.S. out of all them tax dollars? and now, why is it, the ones that holler the loudest is always the first one in the line to get them indtitlements? You don't really have to answer this, just something to think about.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rip
[B]You ask what's the difference? The difference is if you don't have a car you don't have to buy car insurance that's what. The difference is you make the choice to buy and drive a car on roads paid for by the public tax dollars.

If you buy a car and only drive it on your own property you don't have to buy insurance either.

And more importantly, one wrong move or inattentiveness can seriously injure or kill someone else. That to me is the biggest difference in auto insurance and health insurance.

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Our grandson is a proffesionsl student 8yrs college so far...but what the H##l hes paying his own way works p-t @ home depot

One thing is for sure We have ellectedRich guy after rich guy, A rich guy is NOT going to run this country and get us out of this mess. We need Common sense.

Mark, I think you should run definately get my vote!!!!

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Originally posted by garminguru
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rip
[B]You ask what's the difference? The difference is if you don't have a car you don't have to buy car insurance that's what. The difference is you make the choice to buy and drive a car on roads paid for by the public tax dollars.

If you buy a car and only drive it on your own property you don't have to buy insurance either.

And more importantly, one wrong move or inattentiveness can seriously injure or kill someone else. That to me is the biggest difference in auto insurance and health insurance.

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I'm not following your logic, clarify please.