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Posted by trackdriver on 07-01-2012 09:23 PM:

There will no problem with romney's religion on this board,just Mr.obama. Wonder why? lol!! Y'all gotta make an intelligent arugment some how.

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Posted by Rip on 07-01-2012 09:35 PM:

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Originally posted by trackdriver
There will no problem with romney's religion on this board,just Mr.obama. Wonder why? lol!! Y'all gotta make an intelligent arugment some how.

Well Track that may be because Oprama stated he was Muslum at one point, you know the same ones that attacked the United States.

He has since said he was Christian, but followed a man that preached for God to destroy the USA and that the USA got what it deserved.

Now if Romney's pastor said those things I'm betting people would have a problem with that as well.

Or of course you can continue the liberal talking points and say that everyone that disagrees with Oprama is because of racism and not because of his reckless spending, irresponsible tax policies and his constant attacks on actual producers/workers........Yeah right.

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Posted by trackdriver on 07-01-2012 09:43 PM:

Did i say anything about race? I'm just saying romney won't be srcutinized as obama was on this board,lakeland is correct about romney. Romney has said alot of things you'll turn a blind eye too. It's all politics in the end!! When did he say he was a muslim? Bush tax cut? reckless spending? Please state facts and not that faux news.

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Posted by Loren Simpson on 07-01-2012 09:44 PM:

the 1st time I've posted on these kinda treads..

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sorry to say it folks but the good ol days are behind us. this country aint never gonna be the same. romney is better than what we have now but i doubt he will do much. a god fearing leader does us no good if we dont have a god fearing people. this country gone to hell in a hand basket. I dont know a thing about politics but i can see this........... maybe we need to regroup and start over. oh and i have a great solution to the illegals. lets just go down to mexico, whoop the crap out of em and make em united states territory. then everyone is legal. harsh but some problems are tuff to solve. and i promise this is not the last ramblings you will hear from me.

I agree with you 100% but the WHOLE WORLD is in the shape its in because if our lord and savior didnt want it to be it darn sure wouldnt be. we are blessed with free will and ought to use it the best we can for ALL people. JMHO

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Posted by Rip on 07-01-2012 09:57 PM:

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Originally posted by trackdriver
Did i say anything about race? I'm just saying romney won't be srcutinized as obama was on this board,lakeland is correct about romney. Romney has said alot of things you'll turn a blind eye too. It's all politics in the end!! When did he say he was a muslim? Bush tax cut?

In his younger years, heck he was raised Muslim.

He also has an autobiography out there that listed his birthplace as Kenya, since he has become President he said it was a "misprint".

Yes you most certianly were implying the only reason that people had a problem with Opramas religion was because of race. That's what your question/statement meant.

I realize intent is hard to read on a message board and if you didn't mean that I apologize, but it sure did look like the typical liberal talking point of "he is scrutinized more because of his race", which is just patently false. He brought most of the scrutinty on himself, and he hasn't been scrutinized enough IMO, especially with regards to his terrorist ties (Bill Ayers).

The fact is that he raised the debt more than any president in US history.

And for the record, FOX news has been proven to be the most centrist news network with the most centrist reporting while the rest are decidedly left wing. Not my words, not my opinion but the results of a study by the University of California LosAngeles, a very liberal institution in and of itself that was shocked their own research revealed that since they were trying to prove the opposite.

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Posted by trackdriver on 07-01-2012 09:57 PM:

Read some of that good ole american history and put yourself in the american indian place and explain?

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Posted by Rip on 07-01-2012 10:02 PM:

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Read some of that good ole american history and put yourself in the american indian place and explain?

Not sure I understand what you are trying to say in this one. Explain what? Part of my ancestors were American Indians for whatever that matters.

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Posted by trackdriver on 07-01-2012 10:11 PM:

Honestly rip younger years. lol!! I know you're an educated man,please be real" kenya". Bill Ayers!! For real!! This again? This is why it appears to be anything but....I never said anything about race. I'm very conservative on alot of issues but real issues not fictitious non-sense. This is America land of opportunity for all,not just a select few.

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Posted by trackdriver on 07-01-2012 10:13 PM:

Just wondering how great this country was for american indians,they're history is easier to stomach for some on this board. I glad you haven't called me names yet.Thx for keeping it civil. Checked out snopes and fact check,yet to find those thing.

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Posted by josh on 07-01-2012 10:40 PM:

Rip, I was never insinuating that salaries were to blame for high health care costs.....Im guessing administative costs are the bigest culprit.

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Posted by Rip on 07-01-2012 11:57 PM:

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Originally posted by trackdriver
Just wondering how great this country was for american indians,they're history is easier to stomach for some on this board. I glad you haven't called me names yet.Thx for keeping it civil. Checked out snopes and fact check,yet to find those thing.

Track I wouldn't lie about it. The original was online a few weeks ago. A publishing company had a roster with him on it and they quoted him as being born in Kenya. He signed off on the document himself. Now he says that it was a misprint and he accidentally signed off on it. I suspect he himself was the one claiming it as it was to help him get publicity. Likely one of his lies that suited him at the time.

As for Bill Ayers that is nothing new and is well documented.

And no I don't call names. I will label such as liberal left wing conservative etc but that's usually about it unless im fooling around and know somebody well then ill call them any name I can think of that might get em goin lol.

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Posted by Rip on 07-02-2012 12:05 AM:

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Originally posted by josh
Rip, I was never insinuating that salaries were to blame for high health care costs.....Im guessing administative costs are the bigest culprit.

That would be part of the gubment stuff I was talking about. Those administrative costs are a direct result of an overbearing gubment. Studies show that there are on average some unreal number like 10 administrators for every doc in a hospital. That's one reason physician owned facilities outperform corporate ones in patient care and patient satisfaction but true to form this administration has outlawed physician owned hospitals and are trying to shut down those that were grandfathered in.

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Posted by trackdriver on 07-02-2012 01:03 AM:

Cool,gotta get my meat off the grill!

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Posted by Rip on 07-02-2012 02:10 AM:

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Originally posted by trackdriver
Cool,gotta get my meat off the grill!

Here is a link to one of the pictures of the pamphlet. Again I suspect this was his doing because it would look better on paper to the elite ivory tower folks that he was born in Kenya and not here. Strictly a publicity thing but that's what the publisher put out and he signed off on it. This was for his first book and I am sure he thought it would make it more likely to sell. Either that or he was lying to get gubment grant money to go to college and that's why that "mistake" lasted for over 16 years on his records.

Now he says it was a mistake and he made a mistake in signing off on it, and the publisher has said they made a "mistake". Again I suspect the "mistake" was a lie from his own mouth for whatever reason because the publisher even after he was a Senator updated his biography and included his Senate election in it but kept the "Kenyan born" portion.

I just linked the first picture I found. Didn't check out the site because I know it's the one I saw on a reputable news site when he was saying he made a mistake in signing off on it a few weeks ago.

http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/05/Vetting34.jpg

Here's a link to a legitimate source and story.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...ndonesia-Hawaii

His own literature group used this "born in Kenya" thing until 2007 so even after he was a US Senator so yes he did bring alot of the scrutinty upon himself.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...let-in-use-2007

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Posted by Hey Preacher!!! on 07-02-2012 02:35 AM:

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Posted by headless01 on 07-02-2012 07:12 AM:

suckered

so whats going to be done about it? nothing, its a done deal. talking ain't get'n it done. they talk everyday about it on TV, for what? it only takes 1 electoral vote for obama to win, hes already appointed 2 sup court judges and more on way. ROBERTS could have stopped it and did'nt. so now its gonna be a fast train to hello our constuitution is gone.

nobody stands together no more and thats all it takes for evil to triumph. devide and destoy freedom. come out and seperate from them lies or tolerate and destroy the country. there is no middle ground.

Posted by Hey Preacher!!! on 07-02-2012 06:48 PM:

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Posted by bandithunter on 07-02-2012 07:19 PM:

I think Roberts did what he did to awaken a "sleeping giant". We'll know if I'm right in November. It's not like the rep candidate is strong cause he's not, but I still think Obama will get crushed. I can't find anybody in Minn. who'll admit they voted for him.

Posted by Rip on 07-02-2012 07:52 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by bandithunter
I think Roberts did what he did to awaken a "sleeping giant". We'll know if I'm right in November. It's not like the rep candidate is strong cause he's not, but I still think Obama will get crushed. I can't find anybody in Minn. who'll admit they voted for him.

No, I don't think he will.

I think to believe anything other than Oprama will get re-elected severely underestimates the power of the liberal mainstream media.

The majority of the penalties and taxes from his scheme don't kick in until after the election so people will continue to wrongly think they can keep their insurance. They can't but people won't start losing their insurance until after the election (the taxes imposed for not providing insurance are much cheaper than providing insurance so it's a nobrainer that companies will just drop insurance and pay the tax).

The Wall Street Journal just recently stated that 75% of the cost for this behomoth will come from people making 120,000 per year and less.

It's the largest tax increase in American history.

None of that will matter because he has the LMSM in his pocket, just like all liberal candidates do, and it will be almost 24/7 free nonstop open campaigning for him by all of them until the election and he will win.

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Posted by truly on 07-02-2012 07:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by bandithunter
I think Roberts did what he did to awaken a "sleeping giant". We'll know if I'm right in November. It's not like the rep candidate is strong cause he's not, but I still think Obama will get crushed. I can't find anybody in Minn. who'll admit they voted for him.

Are you suggesting that the Chief Justice appointed by Bush and approved by the Republican party made such a monumental decision just to affect politics? Sounds like you are describing a very ACTIVIST judge.

Funny considering that Obama won MN by a 54-44 margin over McCain that you can't find anyone that voted for him. Might want to think about how insular the world is that you live in.

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Posted by truly on 07-02-2012 08:04 PM:

Rip, I think it is a fair argument to have whether this is a tax or not. I think not, you think so. But your challenge is that neither Obama NOR Romney think it is a tax. Romney has made numerous statements over the years defending the health care system that he put in place as Governor, saying that it is not a tax. His campaign staff are pushing that message. So you have a choice between voting for two candidates who believe the same thing on this issue. Both have put the same health care system in place, one at a state level, one national.

from MEDIAITE:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/top-romn...ndate-is-a-tax/
After Chief Justice John Roberts handed down his ruling that the individual mandate requirement in the Affordable Care Act fell under Congress� power to tax, the question of whether Republicans were taking advantage of calling it a tax or insisting the ruling was wrong to call it that has continued into today, when senior Mitt Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom insisted the mandate, according to the candidate, was not a tax, and that he disagreed with the Court�s ruling calling it such.

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Posted by blueticker on 07-02-2012 08:04 PM:

It's not difficult to be anti Obama

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Posted by Rip on 07-02-2012 08:18 PM:

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Rip, I think it is a fair argument to have whether this is a tax or not. I think not, you think so. But your challenge is that neither Obama NOR Romney think it is a tax. Romney has made numerous statements over the years defending the health care system that he put in place as Governor, saying that it is not a tax. His campaign staff are pushing that message. So you have a choice between voting for two candidates who believe the same thing on this issue. Both have put the same health care system in place, one at a state level, one national.

from MEDIAITE:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/top-romn...ndate-is-a-tax/
After Chief Justice John Roberts handed down his ruling that the individual mandate requirement in the Affordable Care Act fell under Congress� power to tax, the question of whether Republicans were taking advantage of calling it a tax or insisting the ruling was wrong to call it that has continued into today, when senior Mitt Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom insisted the mandate, according to the candidate, was not a tax, and that he disagreed with the Court�s ruling calling it such.

Truly, the SCOTUS ruled that the only way it was anywhere close to legal is if it was a TAX. They have openly said it is a TAX. Oprama doesn't like it but that's what it 100% officially and legall is, a TAX so either the Oprama administration has to admit it was a TAX or say it is illegal whichever one floats their boat. As for Romney, the STATES have more power than the feds. It only mattered if it went against the State constitution. I have no problem if any state wants to institute Opramacare or Romneycare or even Tenncare (see we already had that). So you can't compare Romneycare to Opramacare because state level is different than federal level. Huge difference.

But the tax imposed for not having insurance isn't the biggest cost. Its the other hidden taxes and costs, like the new tax on your healthcare. Yep you guessed it now that will be taxed. Also there is a new tax on your insurance plan, yep you have to pay a tax on something you hopefully don't even use. It's a tax on your insurance.

It goes on and on and on. It is by far the largest tax increase in American history.

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Posted by Sheriff Andy on 07-03-2012 03:20 AM:

i think obamadont care will fold. people will pay the tax because it is cheaper. there will not be anymore pre existing illnesses. so we will only pay for insurance when we decide we need to go to the doctor or need to have a procedure. it wont survive if this happens. JMO

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Posted by l.lyle on 07-03-2012 03:47 AM:

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i think obamadont care will fold. people will pay the tax because it is cheaper. there will not be anymore pre existing illnesses. so we will only pay for insurance when we decide we need to go to the doctor or need to have a procedure. it wont survive if this happens. JMO

X2, and as I understand it , the employer will decide which to pay, the penalty or the tax, which the penalty is cheaper, and if an employee gets ill then, with no preexisting conditions in play, they and I will then buy the insurance when needed and overload the system and kill it dead in it's tracks. And beside that this GUBment of ours is "upfronting" it. It stands not a chance of being a pay ass you go benefit. What dummies ! we have for leaders. Just Print Mo Money..Charge it to the kids.

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