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Posted by Dustin Myers on 01-28-2012 01:51 AM:

He was a young tom that most of the guys around here would have killed. Hopefully he will survive long enough to breed a couple females in the future.

VIDEO as I arrived at the tree.

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Posted by CEDAR GLEN on 01-28-2012 02:10 AM:

WOW

He looks a little angry.

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Posted by locktiteenglish on 01-28-2012 03:09 AM:

dustin

the pics are great i know you are proud when u plan and make a cross and then get to enjoy that

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Posted by RANDY GIBSON on 01-28-2012 07:12 AM:

Dustin,

sounds like one of those hunts you would draw out on paper--
I'm happy to see Vemon is able to grub up them ol cold tracks.
Jody and i had a coon hunt about like that tonight, Maggie, an Ruby grub up an ol boar coon, i was right proud of them.

ps BEAUTIFUL PICTURES!!!

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Posted by Dustin Myers on 01-28-2012 04:42 PM:

Thanks guys. Randy as I told you a while back, I thought Venom had the ability to be among the best hounds I have owned. Now she is going out and proving it to me.

It's 20 degrees this morning, so all that wet snow froze so hard a cat wouldn't leave a track. It was nice to take a couple days off and sleep in for a change. That 4:30 in the morning stuff wears me out after a while. I guess I'm not as young as I used to be. I remember when I could hunt all day, party all night, get a couple hours of sleep, then get up and do it all over again the next day. Now when I get home from hunting I'm ready for a nap. LOL

I've been told that all that energy will come back when I turn 40, and I'll be able to go all day and night again. If I can just make it a couple more years I should have it made. If anyone can confirm that this is really how it works, it would make me feel much better about getting older. LOL

Posted by RANDY GIBSON on 01-28-2012 10:12 PM:

I've been told that all that energy will come back when I turn 40, and I'll be able to go all day and night again. If I can just make it a couple more years I should have it made. If anyone can confirm that this is really how it works, it would make me feel much better about getting older. LOL

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Dustin, i wish you luck, it did'nt work like that for me!! lol

Posted by caney on 01-28-2012 10:35 PM:

trust me it does not work.. i was told it was 50. how about that randy tell us something.

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Posted by Dustin Myers on 01-29-2012 01:23 AM:

"50" I'm not sure I can make it that long. I think I'm gonna buy me a case of those 5 Hour Energy shots and a bottle of little blue pills. I might not get much hunting done, but at least I'll have a good excuse for being tired and sore. LOL.

I got a call from Brian up north today. Sounds like he had an exciting hunt/bay up. The lion jumped out when he got to the tree and they caught him as he was trying to climb another one. Things got pretty western and Smoke tried to choke the lion to death by sticking his head in it's mouth. LOL. He's got some bites though his nose and will probably be getting some good anti-biotics from the vet, but he should be fine. Storm and Coby were in on the action too, but luckily they were giving more bites than they received. Brian was able to get them caught off without having to kill the cat.

Posted by RANDY GIBSON on 01-29-2012 01:31 AM:

Hey,

enjoy your 40's, believe me it just gets worse- lol

wow sounds like Brian had a exciting day-- glad to hear the
hounds are ok. could have been real bad.

Posted by Brian Chorney on 01-29-2012 09:23 PM:

Venom did an awesome job Dustin! Glad your cat stayed in the tree. Mine sucked! I wrote about the hunt over on the big game thread. Dogs look ok today. All three are on pills today. It was a hell of a show though!
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Posted by Dustin Myers on 01-30-2012 01:05 AM:

Brian's post from the Big Game page.

I'm back to work now but still hunting weekends. We have to go the big mountain country now. We caught yesterday but no pics. When I got to the tree and just dropped my pack off the cat bailed and all hell broke loose. Coby and Storm caught it in the air with Smoke flying in to the rolling mix. Looking back at the whole ordeal my wife is not very happy with me cause when she arrived to help me I was sitting there with the dogs twisted up in my hands flipping and rolling trying to get free. My pack was 40 yds away with the leashes and 45-70 still attached. I was in the middle of the ground fight with the dogs. the lion had Coby in its mouth when I kicked it in the head to get her free. When the lion rolled over to grab me Smoke locked jaws with the cat and I kicked the lion again in the head to let him go. Storm was busy on the other end the entire time. I'm still not sure how I ended up with the dogs caught. They were extremely hard to hold while the lion left and untill Claudette got to me. Then the long deep snow walk out. The drive to the vet. THE BILL!
Today everyone is fine, except me, I'm tired sore and whining. lol.
Brian

Posted by Dustin Myers on 01-30-2012 01:19 AM:

Brian

I just ordered you a pair of steel toed hunting boots and a whiffle ball bat for your birthday. I would have gotten you a real bat, but then you might have to punch your tag on a small lion if you had to break the bat out. You can laugh now, but I bet if you would of had a whiffle ball bat in your hands when the cat was gnawing on the dogs, you would have been whackin' him in the head with it. Now that I would pay money to get some good pictures of. LOL

Posted by Brian Chorney on 01-30-2012 03:57 AM:

Dustin, I wish you were there snapping pictures. They would have been amazing. My wife took one. I look like crap! Tired, full of dog/lion slobber and blood.

This is the counrty we are hunting now. I'm glad the tree and ground fight was not at this view point.

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Posted by RANDY GIBSON on 02-04-2012 06:12 PM:

Brian,

Thats some beautiful country-- but it looks like it would be some tuff hound huntin--

Posted by Dustin Myers on 02-04-2012 10:05 PM:

I've decided to give wolf trapping a try. I went down yesterday and took the mandatory Wolf trapping class. Now we will see if I can outsmart one. There's been several guys around here trying all winter, but so far no one has caught one in my area. Just what I needed, another expensive sport. LOL. The traps and hardware it takes to hold one of these things is pretty spendy.

Posted by RANDY GIBSON on 02-07-2012 05:12 AM:

Dustin,

how many tags can you get a year??

Posted by Dustin Myers on 02-07-2012 02:59 PM:

Two for hunting, and three extra for trapping. They are interchangable so you can take a total of 5 however you can get them.

Posted by RANDY GIBSON on 02-11-2012 03:37 AM:

Vemon's little brother

Tazer he looked good tonight--it's pouring snow so i headed on back home!!

Posted by Troy Danielson on 02-11-2012 12:56 PM:

Great pictures on this post! Some day I would love to experience a lion hunt. Good luck with the wolf trapping.

Randy, it looks like Luke did his part in putting several nice hounds on the ground for you and others to enjoy. I liked him when you and Jerry made the drive to Minnesota several years ago.

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Posted by Dustin Myers on 02-11-2012 06:19 PM:

Tazer sure looks good in that snow. I'm working on a post about the Luke/Lightfoot crosses and how they have worked for us.

We have been spending quite a bit of time figuring out where we want to set out all our wolf sets. I found tracks the other day where one was heading right for one of my sets, then 20 ft before he got to it, he left the trail and made a detour around it. It's amazing how smart and cautious an animal that has never been trapped before can be. LOL. I can't believe how much time, money, and effort we have already put into this project. Dad and I spent a few hours building and modifying equipment yesterday. We hope to be ready to get the rest of our stuff set this coming week. It might not happen this season, but we are hoping to learn how to be effective enough to thin them out a little in our hunting territory to help with the deer, elk, and moose numbers and hopefully reducing the chances of getting our hounds killed. My bear hunting partner Dave found where the wolves dragged a small bear out of it's den and killed and ate it. That's a pretty serious predator.

Posted by Dustin Myers on 02-13-2012 04:32 AM:

Here’s a little more history of these hounds for those who are interested. I realized that I have talked about Randy Gibson’s Luke dog and the crosses that have been made between him and the Lightfoot hounds, but I haven‘t posted any pictures of him. I thought I would post a few pictures of Luke and talk a little about him and the litter he came from. We ended up choosing Luke because he was a very nice hound, from a very nice litter, from a good bloodline, that was developed by top notch guys. Here are some of the reasons why he was our choice.

When we were looking for an outcross, there were a couple of characteristics that we wanted to improve a little in our hounds as a group. The goal was to improve our hounds is those areas while keeping the chances of introducing any traits that we didn’t want to a minimum.

We wanted to breed to a hound/bloodline that would help settle our hounds down a bit, making them easier to handle and more enjoyable to hunt. They could also stand to be a little less rambunctious, and a little more settled at the tree. From what we had heard about Luke and his littermates, they strongly possessed both these traits. They appeared to be hounds that treed as hard or harder than what we had, without the bouncing around, spinning, and chewing. We saw video clips of them being called off a tree and walking away without a lead on them. This is something I don’t necessarily expect to be able to do with our hounds, but not having to yell, kick, and drag them off the tree would sure be nice. Especially when you have to lead 4 or 5 of them off the tree at the same time.

We were told they were hounds that were stay put pressure tree dogs, but would go out of their way to avoid getting into trouble with a rough dog if at all possible. While I think almost all hunters want a hound that doesn’t “start” any trouble at the tree. I know there are different opinions on what a coon hunter wants there hound to do when they are getting harassed by another hound at the tree. Some want them to show them who’s boss and win the fight. Others want them to back up and avoid the conflict if possible. I’m not a competition hunter, so I don’t claim to know what type of tree dog it takes to handle the pressures of being in a big hunt. I’m simply trying to explain the style of tree dog that we need. All the big game hunters I know want their hounds to stay treed but do everything they can to avoid getting into a fight.

Often times a big game hunter has several dogs under a tree at once, and they all need to get along. This is even more important if you decide to run with someone else’s pack of hounds. Years ago when I used to hunt more with different guys, I witnessed a few pretty ugly battles under the tree. Luckily the hounds I was hunting at the time would just be sitting off to the side treeing, while the others were rolling around under the tree going at it. Wanting your hound to win the fight isn’t a good option in these circumstances, because it might start out as a 1 on 1 fight, but could be a 3 or 4 on 1 fight by the time you get there. I’ve been fortunate enough to not have my hounds involved in one of these altercations. But the few I have witnessed with other guys hounds were not a pretty sight. Having hounds that can take being bumped around, jumped on, and face barked, without losing there cool, is what we want. The fact that Luke and his siblings were this style of tree dog was another plus in making him our choice.

Randy and Luke

Ram, Luke, Buck, and Kate all littermates.

I refer to this line of hounds as the Luke dogs, simply because he’s the one we have used directly. Others refer to them as Ink dogs, because they are double bred on Harmon’s Ink. But regardless of what you call them they are a line that has many generations of good hounds behind them, and I believe many more generations of good hounds to come in the future.

An important hound in the foundation of this bloodline.

After seeing the results of the crosses that have been made between these two bloodlines, it certainly appears that they have complimented each other very well. We are very pleased with the results, and feel that we have been successful in improving our hounds in the ways we wanted. The crosses we have made using this outcross have produced balanced hounds with the toughness and ability we need, but are definitely a little less hard headed. They listen and handle better, which makes them more enjoyable hounds to own and hunt. By using Luke to help reach this goal, we feel we were able to improve our hounds like we had hoped, without giving up any game catching ability in the process. It sure looks like Randy and the guys back east are having equally good luck with the hounds they have from these crosses. Much of the credit also goes to the good group of guys who are hunting these hounds and helping to evaluate their abilities in the woods.

Here are some pictures of some of the hounds from these crosses being hunted around the country.

Here is the 1st generation.

Idaho Lightfoot Smoke - (Gibson’s Sunset Luke X Idaho Lightfoot Stinger)

Gibson’s Sunset Tazer - (Gibson’s Sunset Luke X Idaho Lightfoot Stinger)

Idaho Lightfoot Venom - (Gibson’s Sunset Luke X Idaho Lightfoot Stinger)

Lightfoot Stride - (Gibson’s Sunset Luke X Idaho Lightfoot Stinger)

Posted by Dustin Myers on 02-13-2012 04:35 AM:

Gibson’s Sunset Maggie - (Gibson’s Sunset Luke X Light Foot Jewel)

Gibson’s Sunset Maggie & Lightfoot Stride

Locktite Cindy - (Gibson’s Sunset Luke X Light Foot Jewel)

JRowe's Ky Blue Luke - (Gibson’s Sunset Luke X Light Foot Sho-Biz)

Gibson‘s Sunset Titan - (Gibson’ Sunset Luke X Lightfoot Frosty)

Sunset Carley Sue - (Gibson’ Sunset Luke X Lightfoot Frosty)

Blue Ruby - (Gibson’ Sunset Luke X Lightfoot Frosty)

Posted by Dustin Myers on 02-13-2012 04:42 AM:

Here’s some of the 2nd generation of the outcross.

Idaho Lightfoot Chrome - (Idaho Lightfoot Smoke X Idaho Lightfoot Sandy)

Idaho Lightfoot Storm - (Idaho Lightfoot Smoke X Idaho Lightfoot Sandy)

Idaho Lightfoot Neiman - (Idaho Lightfoot Smoke X Idaho Lightfoot Sandy)

Idaho Lightfoot Clutch - (Idaho Lightfoot Gambler X Idaho Lightfoot Venom)

Idaho Lightfoot Blizzard - (Idaho Lightfoot Gambler X Idaho Lightfoot Venom)

Lightfoot Drum - (Idaho Lightfoot Gambler X Idaho Lightfoot Venom)

Lightfoot Viper - (Idaho Lightfoot Gambler X Idaho Lightfoot Venom)

Idaho Lightfoot Doc - (Idaho Lightfoot Smoke X Idaho Lightfoot No Mercy)

Idaho Lightfoot Fancy - (Idaho Lightfoot Smoke X Idaho Lightfoot No Mercy)

Posted by Wildcountry on 02-13-2012 05:07 AM:

Dustin nice looking hounds and a great post .

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Posted by tom edwards on 02-14-2012 12:00 AM:

Dustin

Them are some gooood looking hounds, feel free to put some more pictures on here. Gotta love them. TOM

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