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THE MOST IMPRESSED I'VE BEEN WITH A TRACK DOG WAS 2 A MALE DOG OFF TRACKMAN AND PEPPERMINT PATTY THAT IS CALLED GRCH NITECH 'PR' TACKET'S LATE NITE CRUISE AND A FEMALE OFF OF CREDIT RIVER TUCKER CALLED THE QUARTER TRUTH DOG WHICH IS BREED TO THE ROAD HOG DOG

BTT for those dogs that can grub up an old track and show you the meat.

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BTT for those dogs that can grub up an old track and show you the meat.

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never heard walker run a track further than 100 yards :P

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Your funny burdette.They are gettin fewer and fewer every year.On several occasions this past season coons stired the first hour or two after dark and then layed up.Them balanced coondogs really shine then.Them hot nosed dogs just keep runnin.

you must ain't never seen a finley river bred hoover vacum cleaner in the woods, huh?

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Originally posted by Jackson87
BTT for those dogs that can grub up an old track and show you the meat.

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I keep hearing about people going on and on about these super fast track drivers/drifters . In fact I think it's pretty over rated in my opinion... Alot of these dogs over run these tracks and a medium to slow but steady track dog will get treed before the fast dog and are way more accurate than the track drifter. Ever watch a coon run? They run a little ways and stop behind something like a rabbit. I've seen these Blazing track dogs run right past those trees with coons and run another 100 yards before they realize they lost it ... An authoritive , steady track dog that runs that coon like a beagle will have less "losses" and when they get to the end of that track they usually run right into that tree and have the coon . To top it off many people don't realize some of these "cold nosed track dogs" are in fact ground pounders , but because they take extra long to finish the track ... They are cold nosed . Kills me every time

From what I've seen the best all around track dogs I've seen is the hardwood maniac, hardwood swamp, Skuna river , charley creek , nite heat, Logans clover. I've heard buck creek also but haven't hunted with enough to see myself. I've seen these dogs go from these various lines and most all of them had the tools to be above average and even GREAT. With each having their own quirks but they all have those

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The kinda track dog im talkin bout dont ground pound,or pass coons up.They work out a track by pushin it steadily barkin bout every 50 to 100 yards and use there brain instead of there mouth.They will put a coon on the end of that track and not take long to do it.Coonbuster I would enjoy seein that bear pup go.He sounds like my style

I have one that is heavy Finley River . This dog is 2 years old and can run a hot track hot and just as happy and content on a bad cold track.

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Originally posted by ball1966
I have one that is heavy Finley River . This dog is 2 years old and can run a hot track hot and just as happy and content on a bad cold track.

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I'll wade in here

I hunt my Bluedog in Jan. and Feb. when it takes nose power to put one on the outside in low temps, all the half wits and retards are dead and the rut is on... I am also smack dab in the middle of Lone Pine Walker country.... I bump in to guys running Lone Pine Blooded dogs on those bitter bad nights and hear the gun crack at trees often enough to know they got it done in proper style.. Call Tom Strang he will set ya straight on Lone Pine dogs and nose to tree coon in adverse conditions in the dead of winter....JMHO......

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Re: track dogs and layup coon

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Originally posted by Jeff Ashmore
I want a dog that can go out at the end of season and get the hard coon. No Complaints about weather ice ect. Finley River dogs did a great job in the 1970's hunting with my dad and now that I am back hunting after leaving it for 28 years. I am not seeing that kind of dog. Lots of go deep hot tracks and solitary hunters that win Competions. It seems to me that most walkers I see are too hot nosed and i don't see people training dogs to get layup coon there is a way to do it. When starting pups. I am a minority when it comes to hunting though as my partner and I still walk with our dogs and dogs hunt with us and we have no buckets out, nor do we run coon when babies are small. I would like to see some older style walkers myself that work tracks together helping each other. Driving a track. Abad hunt is always better than good day at work.

Jeff

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the best track dog I,ve owned was red eagle dick breed this was 25 yr.ago .

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Originally posted by Dwils
I keep hearing about people going on and on about these super fast track drivers/drifters . In fact I think it's pretty over rated in my opinion... Alot of these dogs over run these tracks and a medium to slow but steady track dog will get treed before the fast dog and are way more accurate than the track drifter. Ever watch a coon run? They run a little ways and stop behind something like a rabbit.

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Cold nosed

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Originally posted by HOBO
Just pick up any magazine and read the stud dog ads. THEY ALL HAVE COLD NOSES...

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Well Stanley,this looks like another fine mess you've gotten us into

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Originally posted by john Duemmer
I read about them, i hear about them, everyone claims to have one. Funny though when i gp to a hunt every cast seems to have a couple quick strike dogs that run the track about a hundred yards and pull up short, blow the top outa the tree and everyone in the cast knows darn well they dont have the coon. Spend half of the hunt time shining empty trees while the coondog in the cast is out of pocket finishing those tracks, but its impossible to hear them over those great tree dogs.
There i feel better now.

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cold nosed

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Originally posted by deschmidt27
I agree with Daniel... I watched a couple coon from my tree-stand one morning, and I've never seen a dog quickly "drift" a track like these coons laid them down. They would head one way for a couple feet, then something would catch their eye and they would hang a sharp right, or sharp left, double back, run over here, then run back again. They acted like a couple ADD children on a playground.

There is no way, other than random chance that a dog could quickly "drift" a track through the woods and stay on the same coon. Even if they were drifting, they would still need to zig-zag all over, to track the type of activity, I saw. I think what is more likely, is where coon are plentiful, these dogs blow through the woods, picking up and dropping, different coon tracks until they finally tree one.

JMO

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Originally posted by Wayne Valentino
I hunt my Bluedog in Jan. and Feb. when it takes nose power to put one on the outside in low temps, all the half wits and retards are dead and the rut is on... I am also smack dab in the middle of Lone Pine Walker country.... I bump in to guys running Lone Pine Blooded dogs on those bitter bad nights and hear the gun crack at trees often enough to know they got it done in proper style.. Call Tom Strang he will set ya straight on Lone Pine dogs and nose to tree coon in adverse conditions in the dead of winter....JMHO......

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Originally posted by deschmidt27
I agree with Daniel... I watched a couple coon from my tree-stand one morning, and I've never seen a dog quickly "drift" a track like these coons laid them down. They would head one way for a couple feet, then something would catch their eye and they would hang a sharp right, or sharp left, double back, run over here, then run back again. They acted like a couple ADD children on a playground.

There is no way, other than random chance that a dog could quickly "drift" a track through the woods and stay on the same coon. Even if they were drifting, they would still need to zig-zag all over, to track the type of activity, I saw. I think what is more likely, is where coon are plentiful, these dogs blow through the woods, picking up and dropping, different coon tracks until they finally tree one.

JMO

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Originally posted by Larry Atherton
Daniel and David,

I hunt quite a bit in winter when there is good tracking snow. More times than not my dogs are 10-15 yards down wind of coon tracks in the snow. The dog's tracks seldom ever break stride despite of the coon's meanderings. In addition to this information, how would one rationalize these same open track dogs repeatedly catching coon on the ground year around? It is because they run to catch.

I have had the privilege to own such dogs, and they are by far my favorite dogs.

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Originally posted by Larry Atherton
Daniel and David,

I hunt quite a bit in winter when there is good tracking snow. More times than not my dogs are 10-15 yards down wind of coon tracks in the snow. The dog's tracks seldom ever break stride despite of the coon's meanderings. In addition to this information, how would one rationalize these same open track dogs repeatedly catching coon on the ground year around? It is because they run to catch.

I have had the privilege to own such dogs, and they are by far my favorite dogs.

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Originally posted by Larry Atherton
Daniel and David,

I hunt quite a bit in winter when there is good tracking snow. More times than not my dogs are 10-15 yards down wind of coon tracks in the snow. The dog's tracks seldom ever break stride despite of the coon's meanderings. In addition to this information, how would one rationalize these same open track dogs repeatedly catching coon on the ground year around? It is because they run to catch.

I have had the privilege to own such dogs, and they are by far my favorite dogs.

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This is a very good topic.I agree with you david if your in thick coon.What is your thoughts if your huntin in thin coon.Say you turn a dog loose and it hunts a whole patch of woods lets say 800 yards and finally finds a track but its atleast 4 hours old.Would you want a hound that would rather skip to the next woods or work that cold track to the end?