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Originally posted by K. Singletary
I don't like the touch screen idea. Someone needs to get from behind the desk and in the woods. Muddy, wet, cold fingers and a touch screen will lead to problems IMO.

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Re: Bird's Eye Satelite Maps

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Originally posted by Runningdeer
Should be able to take that Bird's eye Satellite maps for the 30 dollars per month.

Your post said $30 per month. The link your post took me to said $30 per year.

$30 per year I would probably do but not $30 per month.

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looks like a good unit to leave in the truck hooked up,,they need to put a AC adapter on it also.

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Originally posted by Mrwildman
We will have the DC50's in stock by the end of month!

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All right 'hounded', if you have connections in the R and D dept at Garmin, here is another problem and possible solution:
Using a Garmin during a night hunt is very problematic. If you leave it turned on it must stay at the truck. If you leave it at the truck, and you hunt deep into a large section of land, and now you are over a mile in and time is called and you have to hustle back to the truck to get your Garmin, only to find that your dog is even deeper in the country, so now you have to hustle back in where you just came from. Or you can bring the Garmin with you, but leave it turned off. The problem with this is that if your dog goes out of range with the handheld turned off you don't even have any idea which direction your dog went, and if it got into something that is blocking the signal, or if the dog went super deep you may never find them with the Garmin. An example of this- dogs are cut loose, your dog goes up over a hill [silently], gets in the next valley and chases a raccoon into an old abandoned barn, or rock den, or well. Now when you call time out and turn on your Garmin it does you no good at all.
So here is a possible solution- create a setting on the handheld unit in which the unit is on and gathering data of where your dog has been and the route that you walked in, but will not show any of that info on the screen. Basically create a "sleep" mode. When you want to turn it on to the "live" or "active" mode it will sound an alarm- a trademarked and unchangeable tone or beeping that would be audible up to 25 feet- equal to a cell phone ring. When the handheld goes to the "active mode"it also displays on the screen when it was turned to that mode and for how long. Or better yet, when you put it in the sleep mode it starts a timer and tells you how long it has been in the sleep mode and displays the UKC logo on the screen.
So the whole point of this is that Garmin shows the technology to UKC and UKC changes their definition of Garmins being turned off to mean that they must be in the "sleep" mode. Then a hunter may take his Garmin with him in the night hunt. He may have it turned on [in the sleep mode] and carry it with him during the hunt. In the event that time is called and dogs are lost, the handler may turn handheld to live mode and know where the dog was when it went out of range, or where it is if still in range. If a judge of a cast thinks that a handler has used the handheld during regulation time, he may ask to see the Garmin. If the screen shows the UKC logo, then the judge knows that it is in the sleep mode, and he may see just how long it has been in the sleep mode. So if a handler tried to cheat and slip off to the side and check the where abouts of his dog, the alarm would have sounded, and if the cast did not hear that then the judge could see that the Garmin had only been in the sleep mode for a few minutes and know that it had been used. If the amount of time on the sleep mode was any amount less that the length of that drop, then the handler would be scratched and even barred.
This all sounds a bit complex, but I think a few programmers could add these features into the "brains" of the handheld, and I imagine that UKC would see the benefits of allowing handlers to better know the whereabouts of their dogs when time is called.

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Cut fool if you want but if I was to cut fool on the cell and say me and OSAMMA was in the back side of so and so haveing fun coon hunting , do you reckon I could be expecting "little round brown " seeking missile up mine?

Truly

I like the idea of a sleep mode just for battery life but I don't like the audible alarm. If I am deer hunting, I would like it to start up in silent mode so I can check on where my dogs are and still keep hunting. It would probably extend battery life considerably if it was gathering data but not displaying.

Be easier to just let people use there Garmin in the hunt. There would be more accurate calling and less calling other peoples dog. You could allso see a dog leave a tree. Allso they couldn't just keep walking in the direction there dog left in saying " I hear him in that direction" thinking if they walk far enough they will be able to hear him. Then when they finaly give up and you all walk back to the truck with time out called. You find that all dogs are in the opposite direction.
All we would have to do is put everyones collar in everybodies 220. We could all watch everyones dog. If some one didn't have a garmin we could lone them a collar and let them watch our 220.
Any problems and you could go back to the MOH with the data on the garmin and print off the tracks. Even put a ? right were the ? came up in the hunt.
It would be a lot safer on the dogs and hunter as well.

If you wanted to get the hunt REAL HONEST you could do away with strike points and just count tree points. Wouldn't matter what the dogs done as long as they treed a coon and stayed there.

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Originally posted by Okie Dawg
Be easier to just let people use there Garmin in the hunt. There would be more accurate calling and less calling other peoples dog. You could allso see a dog leave a tree. Allso they couldn't just keep walking in the direction there dog left in saying " I hear him in that direction" thinking if they walk far enough they will be able to hear him. Then when they finaly give up and you all walk back to the truck with time out called. You find that all dogs are in the opposite direction.
All we would have to do is put everyones collar in everybodies 220. We could all watch everyones dog. If some one didn't have a garmin we could lone them a collar and let them watch our 220.
Any problems and you could go back to the MOH with the data on the garmin and print off the tracks. Even put a ? right were the ? came up in the hunt.
It would be a lot safer on the dogs and hunter as well.

If you wanted to get the hunt REAL HONEST you could do away with strike points and just count tree points. Wouldn't matter what the dogs done as long as they treed a coon and stayed there.

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Use SunSpot Lights, so bright its like the sun came out at night !!!

LOVE the sleep mode idea

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Originally posted by StrawberryMt
LOVE the sleep mode idea

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how bout "nite hunt sleep mode" instead of the logo might wanna change some other registries as well lol

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why cant the handheld part be rechargeable batteries like collar?

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Originally posted by StrawberryMt
how bout "nite hunt sleep mode" instead of the logo might wanna change some other registries as well lol

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Originally posted by Jim Hill
your kidding right,this new tech is wreaking this very sport i love

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NITECH 'PR' Grady's Insane Tinker Bell (Tink) - Treeing walker --Okla. State Hunt open redg. winner

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Originally posted by Okie Dawg
What has it wrecked for you?

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http://minnesotastatecoonhunters.webs.com/

Use SunSpot Lights, so bright its like the sun came out at night !!!

My improvements would be tracking more than 10 collars, battery life,antenna connection, and longer range is like to just use 1 collar but never will for bear n cat hunting til they do. Use my 217 collars too. Don't think they'll get better range unless the fcc let's them put more than 2 watts of power to the collar. U can wish for a lot of things to do with them but that's the basics I would want.

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1 more thing be able to use more than a 5watt radio around them.

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Originally posted by Jim Hill
your kidding right,this new tech is wreaking this very sport i love

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Originally posted by Jim Hill
dont have one, id rather just sit back listen to the dogs work and enjoy the music lol

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Originally posted by Jim Hill
looking to trade for a new garmin with two collars and a nice young finished dog

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Nice one Buckshot...........LOL
I guess his setting back and listening is great till he can't hear them OR find them...........LMAO

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Tonkawa Okla. 74653
580-628-0507
CH 'PR' Grady's Dark Woods Waylon -Bluetic

NITECH 'PR' Grady's Insane Tinker Bell (Tink) - Treeing walker --Okla. State Hunt open redg. winner

'PR' Grady's Barley - Treeing Walker

Contrary to belief I don't have any more input into garmin an they will not listen to me anymore than you guys.. If they did I think we would have a better system for hounds. (or at least I'd like to think so)

I doubt very seriously those changes will come in the form of Garmin. Besides I don't see the benifit for garmin except with a Small percentage of the users that do these night hunts.

Garmin to date has really modeled and tested these to Bird Dog guys and only a few limited hound guys. I wish they would gear them towards our needs as houndsmen more.

Actually I've heard that they don't even really listen to their feild testers. They simply do what they think is best and don't really ask for input.

You should try to use a Magnent mount antenna on your truck while you are hunting, I consistantly see 2-3 miles range while hunting Cats, and I'm sure that would help keep tabs on your dog while your hunting and give you allot more range over the stock antenna.

I know some guys that have left their Garmin with a LR antenna out in the woods if they have to go back to town to fill up or something, that way they at least have an idea of which way the dogs went if they get out of range.

Another option that I would probalby recomend you would have better luck, is to get UKC to allow the judge? to put everyones dogs on one garmin and Ask the judge or who ever is there that knows and will follow the rules to carry the Garmin for you guys. I know next to nothing about Night hunts, But I would imagine that someone there is allowed to carry one your just not allowed use it in the hunt..

But I'm not a night hunt guy so I don't konw how those things work.

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Originally posted by Drew
They need to make it compatible with google earth. Having the maps are nice, you can tell if your dog is by a road or creek or something, but wouldn't it be nice to see if he was on a fence row or tree line or something.

GoogleEarth is definitely the way to go to make an upgrade.

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Should have some more information very (very) soon, and those Dealers that have been irratated at me and telling me that I'm breaking the rules and unethical, They will soon all be handing out their hands for Money soon! Yep.. Pretty soon the Classified section here will be a BTT Frendzy for all the supply shops and everyone Trying to keep their Garmin 320 Combo advertisments on the top..

Ok.. Anyways, I'm just joking.. well I'm Not really joking but more like trying to make a joke..

I'm not going to pick a Day just incase I'm wrong, But I think I could pick the day the official release is coming.. Sooner than later.

The Flood gates of information and answers to the quesitons is very close.....

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Would like to be able to lock my collars with the 320, so no one other than me could turn my collars off.