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im thinkin that what he might have been sayin is if u were a boy he might have introduced u into the sport years ago

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Originally posted by guyankennels
im thinkin that what he might have been sayin is if u were a boy he might have introduced u into the sport years ago

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Originally posted by Wayne Valentino
he meant by the statement was had he realized you loved hounds so much he would have taken you when you were young.. I took all 3 of my girls.. they didn't care for it much... Now my son is a coonin fiend.... He meant you no slight, he actually admitted he should have done better....

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JUST GO AND START HUNTING AND MAKE GOALS TO OUTDO THE OL'MAN THEN WHEN YOU'VE WON MORE HUNTS OR DONE SOMETHING JUST A LITTLE BIT BETTER HE HAS NO REASON NOT TO RESPECT YOU. I REMEMBER WHEN MY DAD KILLED AN EIGHT POINTER THE ONLY THING THAT I WANTED TO DO WAS GET IN THE WOODS AND OUTDO HIM AND WE'VE BEEN IN COMPETITION OUR WHOLE LIVES. TO DON'T REALLY CARRY ON INTO OUR COONHOUNDS CAUSE WE'RE MORE OF A TEAM. BUT IF HE EVER WANTED TO TELL ME I CAN'T DO SOMETHING HE'S DONE I'LL CLIMB THE HIGHEST MOUNTAIN TO SHOW HIM UP. THEN ITS BACK ON HIM TO GIVE ME THE NEXT MOUNTAIN TO CLIMB. TRY IT ASK HIM WHAT HE'S DONE THEN SET OUT TO ACTUALLY FINISH IT.

Seems to me that when you raise a boy and you raise a girl as a dad you view the world a little bit different. I am not a dad and I DON'T speak from experience, but if I was, I think I would be much more likely to throw my young son the keys to the truck and say have fun and be careful out there in the dark woods than I would do the same with a young daughter. There is a perception and not an incorrect that the world is a little safer place for a boy than a girl. Maybe he was thinking of you safety as much as anything. I mean imagaine the scruitny he would be under should he tell you to head out hunting yourself and you got hurt or god forbid attacked or something?? People would view it much differently than if you were a boy. They would question his decision as a father a 100X more than if you were male.

Or maybe he just didn't have a spot for your purse in the dog box........

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I'm not going to try and tell you what he meant because I wasn't there to hear the whole conversation.
And , you never gave any history on your hunting relationship with him.
Were you old enough to go when he had hounds? Did he ever ask you to go? Did you go or did you choose not to go at that time? Did you coonhunt before and then quit , and are now getting back into it?

If either my son or daughter came to me now and said they were going to be a coonhunter , I'd say that if they were ever gonna be coonhunters , they would have been one by now. I don't know how old you are , but they are both over 30.
If you're over 25 , I'd say the same thing to you.

But , then again , my idea of a coonhunter may be different than alot of folks.

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Well...........

Had you been a boy, you wouldnt sweat the small stuff like this..........LOL.........

All joking aside, I think he meant nothing bad, I agree with Christy and some of the others.
Show him just what kind of a Coon hunter a girl can be.........Tim

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Well now

Let's take a serious look at this. As a father of a boy and a girl, a coonhunter for 60 years, and a master of hounds watching the new generation of hunters let me assure you that your Father loves and respects you! What I think he meant was that had you been a boy you would have pushed to be involved at a real early age. He has already told you he will do everything he can to help you with coon hunting. If you are going to get involved in coon hunting, you do not need to wear your feelings on your sleeve. Smile, hug him and take all the help that he is willing to give. You both will enjoy it.
That being said, the coon hunting world today is very different than it used to be, but so is the rest of the world. Ladies today make very formable competitors and it bothers some of the boys. These boys know the best thing they can do is make you mad so that you are not paying attention to the hunt but fuming at them instead. And then there are the boys that will be glad to have you, and will do anything to help you. As a master of hound, I usually assign a woman as the judge on a cast with a boy that resents a female coon hunter and tell them why I did it. That always cools them down. Good Luck and enjoy being both a woman and a coon hunter!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Knox
Had you been a boy, you wouldnt sweat the small stuff like this..........LOL.........

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Originally posted by josh
Aint that the truth.

My daughters go with me occasionally, I doubt either of them consider themselves coonhunters....and yet they have probably been in the woods more nights than most of the females on here.

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For a dad who is looking forward to what activities he will do when he has a son he can never get those dreams out of his head. Doesn't mean he is disappointed to have a daughter but some soon to be dads let their mind imagine all the good times he and the 'ideal' son will have. Now if he does have a son and that poor kid can't live up to what dad was dreaming he should grow up to be that is hard for that boy. And even harder is it for the girl who tries so hard to fill that 'dream-ideal' of the boy who wasn't born. It's real, not every dad is as bad about it and some never go there.

For me as a dad I have two boys. One is all about sports but hunting and fishing are only in his mind if I am going and even then he is not always up for it. My youngest likes to hunt and fish but he's still young and we have to keep it doable for young legs. He enjoys being with any of us doing something so he is not really on fire to hunt and fish on his own. My wife and I lost a baby girl years ago so I sometimes find my mind wondering if she would have been the one always begging to get out fishing and into the woods following some no count hound. I love both my boys for who they are but your mind never forgets the one that never was no matter what the reason.

Your dad loves you. Take him hunting and help him let go of the dream boy they never had.

I bet if he could take that bach he would, im sure as your dad he is happy that you want to hunt, when i got married my father in law told me that my wife would not go hunting , and she goes every chance she can, to this day he cant believe she goes

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Originally posted by Doug Robinson
Do you tell your daughters they have smaller brains than you?

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mabe hes like me getting old and dont know when to be quite i have a 13 yr old grand daughter i gave a hound last year all she days pap take me and hoss coonhuntin i would in a minute but have health issues wife wont let me go but like i tell everybody i wear the pants in the family till she gets home lol i have a daughterlaw that coon hunts and deer hunts and know a few other younger girls that hunt with thier boyfreinds and husbands i see noyhing wrong with it if thats whayt they want to do probly going to catch alot of slack from the guys lol

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My EX m.i. law stared me coonhunting,,,,one tuff ole gal...

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by josh
[B]Not yet, but I sure will if they start whining about their feelings.


That will be two that go to mom when they have problems. Sure hope she gets custody. lol

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what should you make ?

nothing. bad choice of words, maybe but don't read too much into it. i grew up in the seventies with 2 sisters. at that time i knew of no girls that would hunt. i have a son that is 22 yrs old and would never hunt with me. how i wished he would. i have a daughter that is 19. she has coonhunted, birdhunted, and rabbithunted with me since the age of 5. when she is home from college she still goes with me. i treasure every moment with both of them. so don't let a few misspoken words come between you. my dad is past 70 years old and not able to go with me anymore. he has as i have, said things that we wish we could take back. but life is so fragile and short that we should focus on being happy. he said he didn't mean it so for your sake and his just turn it loose. i will pray for you.

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That will be two that go to mom when they have problems. Sure hope she gets custody. lol

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Originally posted by josh
They know enough to go to Mom if they want to talk about problems...Come to Dad if they want them fixed.

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I thought lawyers were supposed to know all that stuff, male or female.

Wish I was a lawyer. I could retire in a year.

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Originally posted by josh
Girls have a smaller brain...Its science, you wouldnt understand.

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Originally posted by jackbob42
If either my son or daughter came to me now and said they were going to be a coonhunter , I'd say that if they were ever gonna be coonhunters , they would have been one by now. I don't know how old you are , but they are both over 30.
If you're over 25 , I'd say the same thing to you.

But , then again , my idea of a coonhunter may be different than alot of folks.

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christys comment

I agree with her. I have two daughters and a son. One of my daghters couldn't care less if we owned a dog or hunted. My other daughter and son love them. There are times my daughter that loves to hunt has to remind me to take her too. I tend to take my son more, I guess I think coon hunting is a guy thing. Maybe your dads thoughts were innocent. Maybe he thought if you had been a boy you would have been interested before now or maybe you were an didn't know how to express it. Get you a blue dog and be the first woman to win the world with a blue dog.

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Originally posted by branchvillekell
rather be a silly girl that has, and knows how to coonhunt, than to be a delusional man that thinks he knows it all.

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