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Posted by rmcmillan on 09-23-2010 10:26 PM:

WAIT UNTIL IT IS SOMEONES CHILD! THEN WHAT WILL THE GOVT AND HSUS DUE TO LIE AND COVER THAT UP.

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Posted by Jim Hill on 09-23-2010 11:30 PM:

Re: WE PAY TAXES AND TRUST LAWMAKERS AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE REPAYED!!! (grafic pics)

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Originally posted by C.Stoppelman

this happend at a UKC hunt on Sat Sept 18th ....it was the handy work of two FEDERALY PROTECT timber wolfs and I conntacted the DNR and there's nothing they can do so passed it on to the feds and they basicly said because this is the first report and they're not really bothering anything else they not even sending out trappers on sharp shooters or doing anything about the problem!!!!! when will it be enough!!!!!!!! when a human is attacked...or a child is hurt by one!!!!!! WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE WOLFS NOW......BEFORE SOMETHING WORSE HAPPENS!!!!

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Posted by Jim Hill on 09-24-2010 01:49 AM:

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Posted by mncoonhuntngrl on 09-24-2010 01:58 AM:

Posted by Jim Hill on 09-24-2010 03:36 AM:

Re: WE PAY TAXES AND TRUST LAWMAKERS AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE REPAYED!!! (grafic pics)

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Originally posted by C.Stoppelman

this happend at a UKC hunt on Sat Sept 18th ....it was the handy work of two FEDERALY PROTECT timber wolfs and I conntacted the DNR and there's nothing they can do so passed it on to the feds and they basicly said because this is the first report and they're not really bothering anything else they not even sending out trappers on sharp shooters or doing anything about the problem!!!!! when will it be enough!!!!!!!! when a human is attacked...or a child is hurt by one!!!!!! WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE WOLFS NOW......BEFORE SOMETHING WORSE HAPPENS!!!!

Posted by keithbluemoon on 09-24-2010 05:03 AM:

FED or not

My 243 dont tell I would kill all the wolfs I seen if it was my hound!!!

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Posted by C.Stoppelman on 09-24-2010 07:59 AM:

WOW

all I can say is WOW ...thanks everyone for the saport...this is sooooooo overwhelming that I only worked one day this week and trying to keep up with everything and then everyday life WOW ...And I'm at a loss for words as to how many people are standing behind this and helping out....THANKS...cause I might be loosing ALOT of sleep and working my butt off as much as I can durring the day (along with alot of others) but in the end it'll be worth it!!! Thanks again everyone

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Posted by Jim Hill on 09-24-2010 05:05 PM:

Re: WE PAY TAXES AND TRUST LAWMAKERS AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE REPAYED!!! (grafic pics)

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Originally posted by C.Stoppelman

this happend at a UKC hunt on Sat Sept 18th ....it was the handy work of two FEDERALY PROTECT timber wolfs and I conntacted the DNR and there's nothing they can do so passed it on to the feds and they basicly said because this is the first report and they're not really bothering anything else they not even sending out trappers on sharp shooters or doing anything about the problem!!!!! when will it be enough!!!!!!!! when a human is attacked...or a child is hurt by one!!!!!! WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE WOLFS NOW......BEFORE SOMETHING WORSE HAPPENS!!!!

Posted by Jim Hill on 09-24-2010 06:02 PM:

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Posted by Bob Hennessey on 09-24-2010 07:32 PM:

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Posted by Richard Nethery on 09-24-2010 08:33 PM:

I Would start preditor hunting in that area.

I would stake out a Pit Bull for Bait with a very flimsy chain, and lay and wait on the wolves with a 3006.

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Posted by C.Stoppelman on 09-24-2010 08:44 PM:

petition

there's a petition started and if anyone would like me to send them a copy of it so they can get as many people to sign it let me know...just pm me email adress or post them here and I'll get them to you ASAP (might take a little while but I'm working as fast as I can) get as many people you can to sign it!!!!

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Posted by Jim Hill on 09-24-2010 10:06 PM:

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Posted by wildbill on 09-24-2010 10:45 PM:

if you want to see what happens to people when wolves go unchecked ,,watch the movie "FROZEN"

dont know if its a true story or not or if its on dvd or out of the theaters,,if it was in the theaters ,you will need barf bags so if you dont need it ,someone sitting next to you may..

i downloaded it from the net..these dog pictures arent nothing compared to the grafics in the movie..

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Posted by Jim Hill on 09-24-2010 11:05 PM:

Re: WE PAY TAXES AND TRUST LAWMAKERS AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE REPAYED!!! (grafic pics)

quote:
Originally posted by C.Stoppelman

this happend at a UKC hunt on Sat Sept 18th ....it was the handy work of two FEDERALY PROTECT timber wolfs and I conntacted the DNR and there's nothing they can do so passed it on to the feds and they basicly said because this is the first report and they're not really bothering anything else they not even sending out trappers on sharp shooters or doing anything about the problem!!!!! when will it be enough!!!!!!!! when a human is attacked...or a child is hurt by one!!!!!! WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE WOLFS NOW......BEFORE SOMETHING WORSE HAPPENS!!!!

Posted by Jim Hill on 09-25-2010 03:32 AM:

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Posted by C.Stoppelman on 09-25-2010 05:24 AM:

thanks

thanks everyone for any and all ifo and help your givin me on this matter you have NO idea how glad I am to have the help so again THANKS YOU

Chris Stoppelman

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Posted by rmcmillan on 09-25-2010 06:08 PM:

KEEP THIS UP

Posted by C.Stoppelman on 09-25-2010 07:17 PM:

story

here's the story of what happened that horiable night

On Saturday September 18th 2010 I went to a U.K.C licened event in Fosston,MN with my hound U.K.C CH NITECH'PR' ZIMMERMAN'S PEP-E.Where I drew out with

one of my close hunting friends Kila Butler who was hunting NITECH GRCH CLASSON TALL TREE BARNEY.Our guide was Brandon Oien an 18 year old member of the

culb. The night was going great between the first two drops we only used twenty minutes and had scored on two coons.Then on the third drop we cut loose and didn't hear

the hounds for ten minuties then they opened up to the side of us and Brandon goes "that's not good...that's a big bog swamp" but we could still hear the hounds

somewhat so we stood there and listened to the hounds and could tell they were getting deep and Brandon goes "wow they must be way over behind the pig barns" and

about that time a fight broke out and we weren't sure if they caught a coon on the ground or were fighting or what and after about a mintute or so my hound shut up and

Barney wasn't sounding like himself, it sounded like he was working his way back toward us but stopping and barking in places along the way. At this point I looked at Kila

and Brandon and said "you guys I have this feeling something isn't right here" and then we couldn't hear Barney so I started the 8 minute rules on them and we all said if

the 8 gets them we are calling time and driving like crazy to get over there cause walking through the swamp was not a option.The 8 expired and as we were walking back

toward the truck we could hear brush breaking down toward the swamp so we started calling for them, while still walking toward the truck. As we approached the truck we

heard growling at the truck and I shined my light and saw Barney standing with his feet on the tailgate looking every direction growling so Kila goes "Barney load" which he

did and went to the back of the box and started growling. So at this point we thought o.k. where's Pep-E and what the heck happened so I pulled out the tracking system

so he was a long ways off so we drove as fast as we could to where we thought he was. I pulled out the tracking system to track him.

Then Kila got Barney out of the dog box and saw that he had bite marks on his hind legs and one under his chest and I told Kila and Brandon "you guys he's not moving

and sounds like he's down in that swamp" so we drove down a field road behind some pig barns and got a good reading and that we weren't very far in the swamp, but we

were all so scared to wanta go in the swamp but Kila says "Chris we have to Pep-E could be in there hurt WE HAVE TO" so we put our fear away and went in the swamp

to start tracking and according to my tracker it had me walking in circles and I couldn't figure out what was going on. We could hear brush breaking so we all thought he

was scared and running in circles and didn't want to come to us. Finally I said here Kila you take this stupid Tracker cause I can't get a reading and she turned it way down

and said "he has to be right there" and I took two steps and Brandon says"oh my gosh there he is I can see the green blinking light of his tracking collar' shut off your light

and you can see him" so I did and couldn't see the light so I asked "where" and he goes "right there...right infront of you" so I shut off my light again and Brandon goes "oh

no...he's on the ground". So I flipped on my light again and Brandon goes he's just to your right" and I turned and my light beam was right on him and he was laying there

dead and I couldn't stand the site and turned around and thank goodness there was a tree behind me to brace me and hold me up.Then Kila walked over and put her arm

around me and says "give me your light I'll go pull his collars" so I did and as she was we could still hear some brush braking behind us and I said " NO...I HAVE TO SEE

HIM". So I walked up and viewed him for a minute while Kila get the collars off and then she says "LET'S GET OUT OF HERE NOW!!!!!!" So we fast trotted out of the

swamp and got in the truck and she told Brandon" TURN THIS THING AROUND AND FLOOR IT", as we were scared for our lifes.So we headed back to the club house and

I told everyone what had happened and we called the state patrol as they have a line to contact the game warden on duty and that night there wasn't one on duty. So we

called and left messages about what had happened and the following morning the officer came out to see the body and do an investigation. Because the DNR has to do an

investigation so we couldn't move the body that night. After doing an investigation in which we found two sets of tracks around the hound and in circles around it was

determined it was in fact a wolf attack. I was then told by the game warden that the state does NOT compensate for pets, only livestock and that a dog is not considered

livestock, but that he would notify the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Assocation and see what they had to say on the matter. Because there had been a few other people in the

state that had dogs killed and got some compensation. That following Monday I got a call back from the DNR officer and he told me he got a hold of the Fish and Wildlife

Assocation and they said "sorry but we don't compensate for pets, only livestock and because it was a dog and not livestock, and the first report that we don't feel the need

to send out fedral trappers to trap them". Because the wolfs are federally protected by the MN DNR and couldn't do anything about it. As much as they wanted to because

they know how much of a problem wolves are becomming and something needs to be done to control them as there are more and more reports of wolf problems every year.

Ranging from livestock being injured or killed, pets even on chains in back yards, to even kids being watched and stalked after they get off the bus from school.This article

is meant to raise awareness that wolves are becoming a problem and need to have more control over them, but by being federally protected states can't. So until the wolves

are removed from the federal list they are going to be protected and given right to keep killing and putting fear into people.So please help get the wolves off the endanged

speices list so they can be controlled by the state which they know are a problem rather then people in washington D.C. who don't have to deal with them everyday.

Chris Stoppelman

In memory is CH NITECH'PR' ZIMMERMAN'S PEP-E....gone but not forgotten

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Posted by wildbill on 09-25-2010 08:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by rmcmillan
WAIT UNTIL IT IS SOMEONES CHILD! THEN WHAT WILL THE GOVT AND HSUS DUE TO LIE AND COVER THAT UP.

watch the movie "FROZEN" and you will see what they can do to people,,

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Posted by C.Stoppelman on 09-26-2010 12:11 AM:

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Posted by Jim Hill on 09-26-2010 04:58 AM:

Re: WE PAY TAXES AND TRUST LAWMAKERS AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE REPAYED!!! (grafic pics)

quote:
Originally posted by C.Stoppelman

this happend at a UKC hunt on Sat Sept 18th ....it was the handy work of two FEDERALY PROTECT timber wolfs and I conntacted the DNR and there's nothing they can do so passed it on to the feds and they basicly said because this is the first report and they're not really bothering anything else they not even sending out trappers on sharp shooters or doing anything about the problem!!!!! when will it be enough!!!!!!!! when a human is attacked...or a child is hurt by one!!!!!! WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE WOLFS NOW......BEFORE SOMETHING WORSE HAPPENS!!!!

Posted by l.lyle on 09-26-2010 06:13 AM:

C Stoppelman, I really do feel your pain.

Politicians do have a way of passing laws. Because they think that is what they are elected to do. Now, I know the guy that I elected very (pretty ) well . His/her name is on the bill. I know, just simply because I am not a dummas that my politician did not write that bill # 1 he does not care , #2 he does not write extraordinair, #3 he /she would not be so stupid as to leave the law wide open to your son who has not even graduated from highschool yet , to that little fellers interpretation of the law and he better know full well that if the little feller makes a goof out of hisself, he has the full fledged backing of all the judicial resources of these United States to back him up..Why can't the stupid electorate [Create a Program] LOL that would be on THE PEOPLES side????. Therefore instead of 10% of the stimulas Package money going directly to the the JUdicicial Branches band of whatevers, 90% could get spent up on the total but at least WE THE PEOPLE could count on haveing someone to represent us.?WHY< WHY WHYY?? It is because the Client (the person that pays the bill, not Bill) works off off taxpayers money , which in their opinion means (they too) works for the Government which (has declared war) and resents US on us.

Posted by Jim Hill on 09-26-2010 06:33 PM:

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