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Rusty

I agree with you that a lot of dogs get over looked because they have not got titles. I also agree that if a man buys a pup and make it a titled hound he should have that right. I do not buy pups. I breed my own. This is what I do . I try to buy GOOD dogs that are nite ch and I finish them into Duel Grand. We do not have a lot of coon in this part of the country. It is real hard to get pups started here. That is why I buy started hounds. I also think this way I know what I am buying. I do not want just a good dog. I want a Duel purpose hound that can do it all. When you buy a pup do you KNOW if it is a good one. I for one do not want to buy a pig in a poke. I want to buy the best that can be brought. mY STRONG POINT IS NOT TRAINING OR HUNTING it is BREEDING. I have all the hounds that I need. I want to breed a 5th gen. all grand that is out of two coonhounds not just papered hounds. Now if a new guy starts breeding English hounds where is he to start. At the bottom with a pig in a poke (I don't think so). The young people want to be able breed as good hounds as the old timers. If not we will not keep this person very long. It is not imp. what they breed as long as it keeps them in our sport. Lets look at the young person that comes to the hunts. By the time he gets to hunt he has been lied to a least how many times? He has been sold a lot of junk hounds that most owners knew were junk.(THEY SOLD THEM ANYWAY). Now when they get to the hunt they go out and get cheated ( maybe because they don't know the rules) or they get cheated because they drew two buddys. What is most imp. to me is our sport. WITHOUT YOUNG PEOPLE WE HAVE NO SPORT.
I think we need to help our new people no matter if they are rich or poor. No matter man or woman or old or young.
Everyone wants a new person to start at the bottom and work for years to get to the top. This is why our sport is going to the dogs. We need to support our new people not crook them. I try to give the youth around here a good pup to get them started. We loose enough people every year to keep our sport alive. SOONER OR LATER WE LOOSE OUR SPORT.

Casper and Prowler are both Performance sires for 2005.

Rusty

good points i agree.. I for one will have to stick with my pig-N-A- Poke dogs...lol it's all i can afford...LOL Which by the way, that may make a good name for my newest pup... I been trying to come up with a new name for her......hmmmm

'PR' Roper Hill's Pig-N-A-Poke......ROFL what ya think????? I like it...

HAPPY NEW YEAR and GOOD LUCK to all the English Breeders and Hunters, and Congradulations to all who enjoyed success in 2004
I for one feel successful just to be blessed with the good health and energy to chase my stupid dogs down and get em loaded back in the truck...ROFL...

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Houndster

If you would like to have a little better pig in a polk give me a call and I will hook you up. I have a new litter of New Years pups. They are out of Duel Grand Feebee and a all Grand that is NTCH GRCH Prowler. Prowler has 2 wins towards grand. He is a good hound that will be easy to finish. I have both female and male pups at this time. The reason I breed the all grand males is they are bred to reproduce and if you cross to good females. You have a better chance to get good pups. This is Feebee 2 litter .She now has 9 pups. Her first litter was bred to frozen seman from Wilcox's Thunder Bingo. She only had one pup that lived. It is owned by Oakridge Kennels.
If you would like to have one of these pups send me a post or call me at 304-623-9788. and I will keep one for you. Don't wait to long or they will be gone. I took a reserve on 4 pups because I did not think she would have a large litter. I learn new things ever day.

Thx Don

I appreciate the offer. I really got all i can handle right now. I got one male dog i been hunting for nearly 5yr's now, I been expecting he should start treeing his own coon now anytime.


thx again, Randy

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Owned by:
Randy Langston (Trussville, Alabama)
Home of
GRCH NITECH 'PR' Roper Hill's Smooth Cotton
CH NiteCH 'PR' Roper Hill's Midnite Jenny
'PR' Roper Hills Polly Ester

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Houndster

He should be started about anytime now. I for one like a set hound that way I can find out just what he or she is doing and just how to call them. I only hear out of one ear and this makes it easier to call them. It doesn't help that I am getting old and hard hearing. I am kind of like the old hound I like to lay around in the shade.

Don't let old Houndster fool ya.I saw his picture in Bloodlines this month from where he'd did some winning at english days last year with that started 5 year old......lol He's bred pretty good himself.....Smooth Talking Jed and a nt.ch. female out of Wildfire,then he's got a female down there that made nt.ch. in just a handful of hunts and she's out of Huck A Buck.

That ol' redneck's got some dog power down there.

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Originally posted by Rusty Johnson


That ol' redneck's got some dog power down there.

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Owned by:
Randy Langston (Trussville, Alabama)
Home of
GRCH NITECH 'PR' Roper Hill's Smooth Cotton
CH NiteCH 'PR' Roper Hill's Midnite Jenny
'PR' Roper Hills Polly Ester

205-281-6364
205-655-4754
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Don - Hey I was looking through the event winners section in the back of the bloodlines the other night and I seen where your Casper dog scored 1,100 points or something for a nite champion win. First of all congratulations, and I was curious is that your highest score?

Jeremy

Yes 1100+ was the highest score that we scored all year. It was at Kirby, Pa. We have scored from 900-1100 nine times this year. The only high score when I guided was 1050+ at Marshville, W.V.and it was scored on buckets. This was my only win on my buckets that I won all year. Most of our scores are on wild coon. I hunt where ever I am taken and we can win anywhere. I hate to guide or judge because that way they can't say that it is not right.You are a nice guy as long as you are not winning and you are always cheating if you win. You must not let this bother you or you will not be in this sport very long. If you have a real coonhound you do not have to cheat because most of your comp. does not have a real coonhound. If you can call your dog as they do it and not call everyones elses you can win if you do not draw minuse. The guys that are junping on the first and first down here they will draw a big minuse before the hunt is over. I just call my dog and I have enough problems doing that.

Houndster

Do you have a female out of Huck A Buck. Can it throw a all grand. If so please give me a call at 304-623-9788. I would like to talk to you about getting her bred. Iam looking for a all grand to breed. I will even sell the pups.

don

whats feebee's breeding

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sry Don

Thx for the offer but only her mother and father are GrandNite. I'll prolly only breed her one more time and I've already decited on a stud...

Thx anyway,
Randy
http://www.roperhillenglish.com

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"Roper Hill English Kennel"
Owned by:
Randy Langston (Trussville, Alabama)
Home of
GRCH NITECH 'PR' Roper Hill's Smooth Cotton
CH NiteCH 'PR' Roper Hill's Midnite Jenny
'PR' Roper Hills Polly Ester

205-281-6364
205-655-4754
email: jlandrl2@aol.com

Wayne F.

This is the pedigree on GRNTCH GRCH 'PR' Northridge Jojo's Feebee. Her mother is GRNTCH Northridge Willy's Jojo and her father is CH GRNTCH 'PR' Michigian Swamp Rooster. Jojo is the top reproducing female of all time and Rooster is the top reproducing male of all time. The pups out of this cross if finished can sire a all grand. The price is $250. for males or females. I do not have very many females left so if you want a female you better hurry and reserve one. This litter is all redtick. I had one that was all white with blue on its ears but it died. There are 7 pups left in this litter. I have a reserve on 4 out of 7.

In Feebee's litter there is a all white pup. He may change his color a little but right now he is all white. Yes this pup is a male. He may get a little red on him but I don't think it will be much.

don

did you get my pm
my pur had ared read head with a white heart on his forehead he had a smallcircle of red on one side rest was pure white untill 4 months old rest was pure white now he only has the whiite heart rest is heavy redtics all over real good looking dog
has this white pup have colored or blue eyes

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BRIAR CREEK ZEB

or RAT POISON. But then again I like all of Briar Creek dogs. and have a pup coming out of Zeb.

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Big n Rich - I thought I had one of the first litters out of zeb. Do you have a pup right now?

GRNITECH WILCOX's THUNDER MAD JOKER

Here is my nickle's worth.


I think everyone with a Grnitech gyp (that has 2 grandnitech parents) that worth being bred take her to Wilcox's Thunder Mad Joker to get bred.

That pup should be all coondawg, if your gyp is truely is worth breeding.

You then Grand that pup and take it back to and Breed it to the All Grand Casper or Prowler dog.

Bang there is your 4 Generation All Grand out of ALL COONDOGS.

Just the oppinion of a guy who is on the outside looking in. The outside looking in meaning a guy who hunts walkers and is purely looking at pure coondogs and their paperwork.

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Guys

Let me explain these hounds a little bit Casper and Prowler is out of Huck A Buck and Lucky cross. Zeb and Rat Poison is out of Huck A Buck and Ten cross. Lucky is the mother to Ten and Queen and Durango was the father. Thunder and Dan are out of St.Nick and Queen. St. Nick is a littermate to Lucky. Bingo and Gold is the sire and dam of ST. Nick and Lucky.
So as you can see these hounds are all close related and all are bred to reproduce. So wshen you bred to any of these hounds you should get multiple use hound. They have been hunted on coon, bear, cats, and boar that I know of. These hounds are bred to win no matter what you hunt. I hope this explains to everyone a little better. If I can be of any help please give me a call at 403-623-9788.

WVHillbilly

It may be above most English guys head right not but you Walker guy sure work together a lot better than the English guys do. In the Walker blood you have a wide range of hounds to pick out of. The English blood you do not have but a few to choose from and most of them have a big breeder that does not want to work with anyone let alone a new guy on the block.
W alkers are the biggest breed out there and it is no wonder why.The comp.in breeding is not there. This comp. hurts the English breed and will continue to hurt. We all need to get together and get to know each other and learn to work together to help thew breed. It is easy to say (I am working to better the breed). It is something very diffence to realty do it. I am trying to help the ENGLISH breed and anyone who would like to help me please give me a post or call. Even post your # and I will call you.
Hay J.R. that sounds like a good idea. I think it would be a good idea to get all the English breeders together to dis. our breed and sport. Sounds like a good tome to me. Then again what do I know.

triple d

the NEW redtick

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stivpeetas

your name already tell us what a jerk you are

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Don

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Originally posted by triple d
It may be above most English guys head right not but you Walker guy sure work together a lot better than the English guys do. In the Walker blood you have a wide range of hounds to pick out of. The English blood you do not have but a few to choose from and most of them have a big breeder that does not want to work with anyone let alone a new guy on the block.

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