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tryin to get somthing together for hid season . prefer finley river/ mac / well what else is there . Does any one have pups yet ,ladyhunter?? did you find a cross yet?

looking for old blood.....spring creek rock in the 3 generations ...is there any around????if not what the oldest blood around in the 3 generations thanks everyone ....Tim

Old Blood

Check out Whiskey Old shive's blood and Yadkin river

www.kitscreekkennel.com

The oldest blood I know is some frozen semen that has Spring Creek Rock and Rock River Ring in its 3 generation pedigree.

PM HardcoreKennels Brandon Coselmen. I am pretty sure the dog did some reproducing bak in the day.

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----------GRNT House's Tom Tom
--------GRNT House's Clint
----------NTCH Kentucky Judy
------NTCH Douglas Caesar
----------GRNT GRCH Hern's Red Eagle Dick
--------House's R.E. Bonnie
----------Gearing's Treeing Sue
----PKC CH UKC NTCH House's Rebel (SIRE)
----------GRNT House's Lawyer
--------GRNT House's Cane
----------Double Tough Sue II
------Erickson's Ice Tea
----------GRNT Wabash River Jar
--------NTCH Gilbreath's Pee Wee
----------Blackston's Sandy
..Cane River Mad Molly
----------GRNT GRCH Guess' Deanwood Drifter
--------CH GRNT GRCHDrifters Stylish Buzz
----------GRNT Schmersal's Stylish Anna
------NTCH House's Kentucky Buzz
-----------NTCH Rector Creek Clint
--------PR Rector Creek Shana
-----------NTCH Simmon's Ozark Bell
---PR House's Pine Mtn Coke (Dam)
-----------GRNT House's Lipper
--------CH GRNT Lipper's Mack
-----------GRCH Oak Valley Sparkie
------NTCH Hickory Hill Sadie
-----------CH Clint's Cola
---------NTCH Spike's Tree Top Cassie Mae
-----------PR House's Flurt

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Originally posted by ladycathunter
The pedigree is nothing but big game dogs for the last 6 generations or so.. Nobody did any tight breeding but they all were out of House/Finley River/Hershberger stuff..

I've got all these females related to my male and nothing to outcross on.. I want OLD blood for outcrossing.. then to bring back in..

But.. It is going to take the right dog.. These females are 6 yrs- 4yrs and then younger.. So.. I've got time... But I don't.. I've got to find that right old blood male that is worth my time and energy to add into what I'm stirring in my pot

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How bout this for OOOLD Blood and still alive and runnin and treein and breedin

****************GrNtCh Finley River Dan
************GrNtCh Daniels Dumb Dog
****************GrNtChGrCh Daniels Big Dot
*******WorldNtChGrNtChGrCh Daniels Duke
****************GrNtCh Wicks Stylish Banjo
************Daniels Jolly
****************GrNtChGrCh Daniels Dot III
Betts Paul Harvey
****************Rock River Banjo Jr
************Hinzes Wild River Raider
****************Hillbilly Nell
*******Betts Tomorrows Star
****************NtCh High Plains Rock
************Nightprowlers Queen Essy
*************** Yellow hill Molly

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This is the PED for some pups I just had off of frozen semen. Redbones of course.

The father has been dead for 12 years. They are also line bred very heavy on old ACHA Reserve World Champion Fireball, gone over 25 years, are so heavy on him that by percentages they would be 47% Fireball with a direct son being 50%………………………………......................‘PR’Beverages Red Duke
………………………………..........…GrNtCh ‘PR’Georges Red Bugg
………………………………......................‘PR’Osage Rose
……………………………….…‘PR’Raefs Red Flyer
……………………………….......................‘PR’Lorees Jodi
………………………………..........…‘PR’Hubbards Princess Red
………………………………......................‘PR’Geisters Old Red Belle
….…………………‘PR’Melton’s Big Red
………………………………......................‘PR’St. Clair’s Red
………………………………....……….Wares Joker
……………………………….......................NtCh Tall Timber Red Star
……………….………….……NtCh Ravens Red Tessie
……………………………….......................Houstons Tenn. Red
………………………………....……….Thomas Sally
…..…..Gr.Nt.Ch. ‘PR’ Melton’s Red Fireball (#1 historical producing male)

……………………………….......................‘PR’Turleys Big Red
………………………………..........…Ch ‘PR’Klingels Big Major
……………………………….......................‘PR’Goodrichs Mandy
…………………………………GrNtCh ‘PR’Parks Cherokee Red
……………………………….......................‘PR’Swartzs Bugle
………………………………..........…‘PR’Klingels Red Daisy
………………………………....................….‘PR’Southfork River Pam
….…………………‘PR’Millsap’s Red Sussie
……………………………….................……..NtCh ‘PR’Clouse’s Silvertone Jet
………………………………............‘PR’ Mill’s Red Hawk
………………………………..............………..‘PR’Clouse’s Silvertone Bell
…………………………………‘PR’Parks’s Red Rosie
………………………………..............………..Ch ‘PR’Leo’s Moonlight Rambler
………………………………............‘PR’Park’s Green Valley Penny
………………………………...............………..‘PR’Leo’s Moonlight Jully
GrNtCh. Ch. ‘PR’ Oklahoma Red Twister (#5 historical producing male)


………………………………......................GrNtCh. ‘PR’Lumpkins Timber Chopper Jr.
………………………………..........…NtCh ‘PR’Turpin’s Red Hoss
………………………………......................Quarton’s Antles Ky. Bell
……………………………….…Bamford’s Red Tim
……………………………….......................NtCh Turpins Red Lead
………………………………..........…Turpin’s Red Cherrydrop
………………………………......................‘PR’Cheuvront’s Red Judie
….…………………‘PR’ Phillip’s Red Bo
………………………………......................‘PR’Turpin’s Bomber II
………………………………....……….GrCh. ‘PR’Turpin’s Hot Shot Red
……………………………….......................‘PR’Turpin’s Red Cloud
……………….………….……Ch. ‘PR’Red Crybaby
……………………………….......................NtCh. ACHA World Champion ‘PR’Miller’s Valley Woodpecker
………………………………....……….‘PR’Kentucky Goldie III
……………………………….......................GrNtCh. GrCh. Triple R Solid Goldie
…..…..‘PR’ Terry’s Miss Mable (only had 8 pups)
……………………………….......................NtCh. ‘PR’Swing Red Rock
………………………………..........…NtCh ‘PR’Claunch’s Thunder Bill
……………………………….......................‘PR’Robert’s Red Shine
…………………………………GrNtCh GrCh. ‘PR’Morgans’ Revern Red
……………………………….......................‘PR’Frey’s Go Joe
………………………………..........…Ch. ‘PR’Swing Red Patsy Ann
………………………………....................….Ch. ‘PR’Twin Creek Red Patsy
….…………………‘PR’ Wild Hill Carey
……………………………….................……..NtCh. ‘PR’Swing Red Rock
………………………………............NtCh. Ch. ‘PR’Tall Timber Talker
………………………………....................….Ch. ‘PR’Twin Creek Red Patsy
…………………………………‘PR’Tall Timber June
………………………………..............………..‘PR’Sholars Big Bad John
………………………………............‘PR’Clouse’s Fantastic Fanny
………………………………..............………..‘PR’Bryant’s Rambling rose

And here's the Dam's side.

………………….…………Melton’s Big Red
………………..Gr.Nt.Ch. ‘PR’ Melton’s Red Fireball (#1 historical producing male)
……………………………Millsap’s Red Sussie
…………Gr.Nt.Ch. Ch. ‘PR’ Yellow River Red Rocky (#7 historical producing male)
……………………………Nt.Ch. Gr.Ch. Bachelor’s Red Rooster
………………….Bachelor’s Red Flame
…………………………….Pierce’s Red Tess
….Ch. ‘PR’ Atomic Fireball’s the Man
……………………………Gr.Nt.Ch. ‘PR’ Melton’s Red Fireball (#1 historical producing male)
…………………..Gr.Nt.Ch. Ch. ‘PR’ Oklahoma Red Twister (#5 historical producing male)
……………………………Terry’s Miss Mable
………….‘PR’ Bell’s Fireball Ann( never beaten in comp. 7 cast wins 0 losses with a 10th BBCHA Fall-Round-Up and 3rd at Kansas St. )
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……………………………‘PR’ Terry’s Running Rusty
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…………………..Nt.Ch. ‘PR’ Bell’s Red Fireball Ginger( Had 4 1st place Nt.Ch. wins and disappeared at a big hunt in Tx. )
……………………………….........Gr.Nt.Ch. ‘PR’ Melton’s Red Fireball (#1 historical producing male)
…………………………….‘PR’ Terry‘s Red Hot Sandy (Competition Squirrel Dog)
……………………………….........‘PR’ female grandpup of Mill. Val. Woodpecker


Gr.Ch. ‘PR’ Atomic Fireball’s Little Daisy


………………….…………Melton’s Big Red
…………………..Gr.Nt.Ch. ‘PR’ Melton’s Red Fireball (#1 historical producing male)
……………………………Millsap’s Red Sussie
…………Gr.Nt.Ch. Ch. ‘PR’ Yellow River Red Rocky (#7 historical producing male)
……………………………Nt.Ch. Gr.Ch. Bachelor’s Red Rooster
………………….Bachelor’s Red Flame
…………………………….Pierce’s Red Tess
….Ch. ‘PR’ Atomic Fireball’s Little Annie
……………………………Gr.Nt.Ch. ‘PR’ Melton’s Red Fireball (#1 historical producing male)
…………………..Gr.Nt.Ch. Ch. ‘PR’ Oklahoma Red Twister (#5 historical producing male)
……………………………Terry’s Miss Mable
………….‘PR’ Bell’s Fireball Ann( never beaten in comp. 7 cast wins 0 losses with a 10th BBCHA Fall-Round-Up and 3rd at Kansas St. )
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……………………………..‘PR’ Terry’s Running Rusty
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…………………..Nt.Ch. ‘PR’ Bell’s Red Fireball Ginger( Had 4 1st place NtCh wins and disappeared at a big in Tx. )
……………………………….........Gr.Nt.Ch. ‘PR’ Melton’s Red Fireball (#1 historical producing male)
…………………………….‘PR’ Terry‘s Red Hot Sandy (Competition Squirrel Dog)
……………………………….........‘PR’ female grandpup of old ACHA World Champ. Nt. Miller’s Valley Woodpecker

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And the closest ones alive to GrNtCh Oklahoma Twister (the #1 reproducing son of Fireball) and GrNtCh Yellow River Rocky (the #2 reproducing son of Fireball) . Thanks to alot of help from my friends.

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NtCh GrCh "PR" Dan Langston (Has 2 wins towards GrNtCh in the hunts) ( 10yr old owner asked for me to bring him back to his home) (wouldn't sell) (Ch D8 Dozer (bear hound from all coondog stock, out of my breeding) x NtCh Music/ Kitty) (33% Fireball thru heavy line breeding the highest GrNtCh Fireball blooded hound alive, who is hunt titled )

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'PR' Atomic Fireball's Harry Lady (GrNtCh. Barnyard Horse Harry x GrCh Daisy (was the highest Fireball blooded female alive)

'PR' Atomic Fireball's Toes ('PR' Atomic Fireball's Fast Talker (nephew to Bookem Danno) x 'PR' Atomic Fireball's Harry Lady

'PR' Atomic Fireball's Little Dixie (NtCh GrCh. 'PR' Dan Langston x 'PR'Harry Lady)

'PR' Atomic Fireball's Two Toes (NtCh GrCh Dan Langston x Atomic Fireball's Toes
Didn't have the deep hunt style I like but is a solid coonhound. Been treeing her own since her second night in the woods at 8 months old.

Former home of:
(Qualified for the 2011 World Hunt) NtCh. 'PR'Swann's Lonesome Red Music/ Kitty RIP (NtCh.Twister's Musical Red Huey x NtCh. Sawblade Red Reckon) RIP

GrNtCh Fireball's Jackpot Jackie, highest placing Redbone female ever, in the UKC World Hunt . RIP

GrCh. 'PR' Atomic Fireball's Little Daisy RIP (Was the highest GrNtCh Fireball blooded female in the world at the time) (Qualified for the 2010 World Show).

'PR' Atomic Fireball's Red River (Daisy x Brown's Oklahoma Twister) RIP (heatstroke)

Ch. D-8 Dozer (Was the Highest blooded GrNtCh Fireball blooded male in the world until I had the GrNtCh Twister pups from here) Was sent to be bear hunted because of his size and me being disabled. RIP

First and only sons of the Old GrNtCh #7 Historical Reproducer Brown's Okl. Twister (the #1 Producing Son of Fireball) in 15 years..


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Originally posted by brogy
Unless you're looking at semen studs, a couple I can think of would be
1) Logan's Wild Kobie Jack. Wild Casey, Wild Joey, and Pac-man in 3 generations.

2) Oak Ridge Jake. He's got as much old blood as anything alive. All that old Spring Creek Rock blood. Every dog in his pedigree must have been a senior citizen when they were bred to have those hounds from years back still in 3 generations. He's up in years, its a shame more folks haven't gotten a piece of him while he's still here.

Cowee Creek Clint and Just Plain R are a couple more that have already been mentioned.

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Guess I shoulda read the rest of the thread to see joe already posted all this information that took me 10 minutes to type out... lol

I got a 7 yr old female that is off grntch laurel creek nailor which is off nailor himmself!!!!

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Originally posted by coonhunter5000
are there any dogs out there that still have old mondo blood up close.

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Originally posted by droopy_dog2004
Wildbill

Dang that is some old blood! That lil pup has stud dog written all over him if he makes it in the coonhuntin world. Which im sure he will.

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Dang Christy! With all the old blood those pups are gonna have in em there lible to be some real stem winders! Hope she takes and has a belly full of pups!

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Originally posted by StrawberryMt
Hey mel you still have a stud fee to Rock.Just ask Ted Wilson there in Oregon what he thinks about this OLD BLOOD for cats.

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Originally posted by droopy_dog2004
Dang Christy! With all the old blood those pups are gonna have in em there lible to be some real stem winders! Hope she takes and has a belly full of pups!

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OH I DONT THINK DALE IS GOING TO BREED HER. LOL. HE MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD ANY CHOICE HAD WE STUCK HER IN THERE WITH SID. LOL. BUT NOT TAKING THAT CHANCE! LOL.

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Oh I See. lol Sorry About The Missunderstanding Christy haha. Still yet, thats a nice bred female!

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Odessey Kennel Company has spring creek rock and yadkin tar rattler semen he said he planed to use some of it soon

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Originally posted by Nat Thomas
If I remember right Jakes daddy Craddocks Jake was 14 yrs old when Jake was born. Jakes is a decent tree dog with an average mouth but he will change most people definition of a track dog. WOW.
----------------------------------DUAL GR Spring Creek Rock
------------------------GRNTCH Red Oak Lightning
-----------------------------------NTCH Dohoneys Cadillac

----------------NTCH Craddocks Jake

-----------------------------------DUAL GR Spring Creek Radar
------------------------Red Oak Pearl
-----------------------------------Withers Sonny Sparkle

JAKE

------------------------------------Meeks Lead
------------------------Meeks Rocket
------------------------------------Meeks Patches

---------------Meeks Beauty

-----------------------------GRNT Kens Burning Fork Casey Jr
-----------------------Burning Fork Jewel II
-----------------------------NTCH Kens Burn Fork Jewel

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if i was still hunting walkers i would go with wild card hands down. i loved them clover dogs back in the early to mid 90's

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Originally posted by ladycathunter
I have to quit breeding to my old dog LOL.. He's still around so I have a hard time not taking females to him.. I like hunting his pups..

I have access to a female that is linebred off my stuff.. I would like to outcross her on Rock.. But she is only a year and a half.. Need her to get a little older..

Or... If you have a litter out of him.. maybe you will trade me that stud fee for a pup? It would be easier for me then raising a litter..

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are there any pups or young dogs around out of the Jake dog?

I'd be very interested in one if there was..