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An attack like that on the dog is an attack on the owner!

If you aint got nothing good to say then say nothing at all! You don't own him and you don't feed him and you aint breeding to him so it should not matter to you what the dog is or is not. I hunted with the dog and have spoken to others that have. Like all dogs he has good points and bad but don't you ever jump Tim like that. He is a good person and with what he has done in the bluetick breed we all should be proud of him and his brothers accomplishments!

last post

This is the last post i will make on the subject....bring the dog here...prove me wrong...let the dog do the talking

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Greg Wilson
478-550-6461

Mr Wilson I will give you the same invite and courtesy that I would give to a man that hunts Blueticks come to our country and we will take you hunting and show you what we have and you don't even have to like it but we will treat you right and with respect.......Tim

I did not have a account for this reason , and the only reason i have one now is to clear this up for my friend greg. This is michael mcglashan ( 478 951 4876) i bought turk from jody koiler for $3500 and paid $500 to have him shiped here and after 3 wks offered to take less for him if he would buy him back cause he missed to much to be nice. greg was also being nice with his words on the dog. I ended up givin $1500 and turk for a 2 year old reg. dog ( ch nitech HIGH PERFORMANCE BLUE BOSS) from brien hutcheson , this was a good deal for me cause he treed coons not trees. And if the jokes on me thats fine cause i know what i had in boss and i know what they have in turk. Turk was a dog i would not feed and boss was one i would and did take around and show off(he won 1st at a rqe, won the zones in GA and was the only dog with 2 cast wins that year) so i do know what a dog is sopposed to do when turned loose. But everyone has to make up there minds themselves but i wish the people that respond have 1st hand knowledge like greg does he was there the 1st nite the dog was cut loose in ga and there many more nites evan when he didnt wont to be he walked to more empty trees than anyone should have to for a friend and im sorry for askin u to do that, we know better now and we should all learn from our mistakes.

Greg Wilson Ihave spent the last 20years in Ca. Since I have returned to the midwest to live Ihave only hunted with Turk a handfull of times and have seen more coons than you have in eight months. Douglas Linn

Turk

Mr High Performance,
When you owned Turk you had the right to say anything about him that you wanted to. Now that i own him I do not appreciate what you and your friend has to say ( is he just trying to stir up trouble.)
I do not appreciate you airing out your dirty laundry on my thread, How did I wrong you? I have never heard of you. I will extent the same invite to you that I did to Mr Wilson, come and go hunting with my dogs, wether you like them or not you will still be treated with respect, and if I don"t like what you hunt I have better things to do that run your dogs down.........Tim

Im sorry all this got started maybe this will end it, im not kennel blind ( are you ? ) After 40 plus years of breedin dogs you know the direction your goin, im just goin the other way. When someone ask me a direct ? i give them a direct answer thats just the way i am and always will be. This is my wish that everyone would just be honest about your dog, my dog, and there dogs its the only way to improve them.And in closin and old COON HUNTER told me along time ago when i got excited about seein one of his dogs fumble around and finaly gittin a coon treed " those easily impressed know very little about the subject"

MR. WILSON AND MICHAEL

LET'S SET SOMETHING STRAIGHT, I (BRIAN HUTCHISON) have owned, hunted and feed TURK.
TURK will give you a 100% every night.
I hunted TURK at the winter classic the year i picked him up (not fly picked up) not hearing him for a long time we did as well as we could. TURK Was run down skinny ribs showing hips showing i feel i saved his life like MICHAEL said he would not feed him, it showed. I was giving TURK peanut butter after ever drop just to keep him going we scored on 3 trees WITH COON lost by 50 points to the FOX dog high scoring english of the hunt, if TURK would of been HEALTHY AND NOT ON DEATHS DOOR i could of won that cast.

YES you gave me 1500.00 for BOSS the deal we made be for i left WISCONSIN was 2000.00 and TURK i took the 500.00 loss just to save his life, that being said that is not good business but you are all about MICHAEL.Hay how did BOSS die 3 years old that pretty young makes a guy wonder.

TURK has qualifed for the world 3 times and made it in the top one hundred one time you can't do that by slick treeing.

MR WILSON, MICHAEL made me an offer like you did to TIM 4 coon 10 trees 1000.00 and we would not her from him again i made 3 trees 2 split in one night 2 hours of hunting save your money buy MICHAEL some dog food.
If you don't want to breed to TURK that's fine leave it at that
he is reproducing some very nice hounds one that i just might bring down to the winter classic hope we draw out together.


FOLKS GO SEE FOR YOUR SELF WHAT KIND OF DOG TURK IS MAKE YOUR OWN MIND UP TIM IS A FIRST CLASS GUY AND HE WILL TREAT YOU RIGHT.and he will not bad mouth your dog if there is something he don't like he just say nothing.
BRIAN HUTCHISON FORMER; OWNER,HANDLER

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Brian Hutchison manitowoc wi
920-629-1098

2008 NATIONAL BLUETICK DAYS QUEEN OF HUNT

Thanks brian for your false reply, i guess false facts and false treein go hand in hand sorry to hear that . The penut butter was your why of gettin him to hunt for you thats what you said, i called and tried everything you guys said to do with him before i gave up on the dog. Theres things that was not told to me about the dog and thats ok, just like you were not the one to tell me about bosses allergies and that he couldnt be on straw(ed mauney told me that) and just like i wasnt told the dogs kidneys were failing and he died a year latter. The health of my dogs has never been ? and as far as im concerened there still not. Give it a rest and enjoy your fine hounds and if you realy want to win be careful what you ask for in your cast draws.

what was fale on this reply and i told you he could not be in straw are you saying that i sold you boss knowing some thing was wrong with him?just to let you know that is not the case. and drawing out with some one if i want to win every dog has it day and your buddy GREG has not won every cast he has been in. MICHAEL you have your self a nice day and every thing i said on here is true. HUTCH

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Brian Hutchison manitowoc wi
920-629-1098

2008 NATIONAL BLUETICK DAYS QUEEN OF HUNT

Im done too go the direction you want with your dogs and will do the same. Good luck with them and i hope we all can put the betterment of the dogs first and not our selves but i know thats not goin to be the case . Have a great day too.

Danny G

Info that you asked for:

....................GR NT Beans Ranger
...............GR NT CH PR Uchtmans S B Ranger II
....................PR Uchtman's So Bl Cindy
..........NT CH PR Arnetts Midnight Blue Ace
....................?
...............PR Uchtmans Blue Sack
....................?
.....NT CH PR Moppin's Bugelin Bueford
....................CH GR NT CH PR Mad Dog Smokie II
...............GR CH GR NT CH PR Mad Dog Rooster
....................PR Clifton Osage Tanya
..........PR Mad Dog Two Spot
....................NT CH PR Mad Dog Power
...............CH NT CH PR Mad Dog Flair
....................PR Twin Lakes Blue Beulah
GR NT CH PR Mad Dog Two Gun Billy
....................NT CH PR Crooked Creek Skipper
...............GR NT CH PR Crooked Creek Scamp
....................NT CH PR Crooked Creek Candy
..........PR Mad Dog Scratch
....................NT CH PR Mad Dog Power
...............GR NT CH GR CH PR Mad Dog Blue Notion
....................NT PR Mad Dog Lady Leggs
.....PR Tater Creek Rose (Littermate to NT CH PR Mad Dog Glo)
....................NT CH PR Mad Dog Mo Blue
...............CH NT CH PR Mad Dog Goodbye Blue
....................PR Morman Fork Blue Blaze
..........PR Mad Dog Pee Wee
....................GR NT CH GR CH PR Mad Dog Blue Rooster
...............PR Mad Dog Blue Bannie
....................CH NT CH PR Mad Dog Flair



1..Smokie II's sire was CH NT CH PR Mad Dog Smokie(1978 BBOA National King). Smokie's Dam was CH GR NT CH PR Mad-Dog Lucky
2.Power's sire was GR NT CH PR Mad Dog Jake who was sired by Smokie and his dam was by Hammer IV
3.Beulah was sired by Nt Ch PR Mad Dog Gambler, Gambler', dam was NT CH PR Mad Dog Glo and her sire was Nt Ch PR Mad Dog Blue. Blue was around in the early 60's
4.Scratch,Pee Wee and Bannie were all owned by my brother Paul. Paul did not competition hunt for about 6 yrs when he owned these dogs. They were nice hounds.

Hopes this helps...........Tim

John II (TURK)

1. Dual CH female sired by Jet 6 Indiana Blue Rocket
2. Real nice female sired by POP A TOP

........Both females bred this week to John II.......

John II (TURK)

GR CH NT CH PR Mad Dog Hey Jude (2008 BBOA National Queen) owned by Damon Ferrell of Climax Springs, Mo was just dropped off to be bred to John II.

Junior Hines from Minn was by wed . CH Cannon Valley Mad Dog Lady (4 ch wins) little female with a big mouth, real tree dog, will be bred to John II next wk. After the pups are weaned she will be campaigned in the hunts

Thanks for the interest in John II........Tim

Tim this is the little female out of Joker and a Uchtman breed female Tracy Payne had isn't it? Brian H. bought her from Paul I believe? I wondered were she went. Let me know if you have hunted with her. When she left my place I could tell she was going to make a nice little hound!! Godd luck on the breeding!

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Daniel Morton & Family
"Morton's MO. River Blue Kennel's"
4239 County Road 4220
West Plains, Mo 65775
Cell# 417-255-5822

Turk

Not Many Breeders can begin to match what the Mad Dog Men have done over the years, as far as producing truckloads of CoonDogs. I have hunted with many of their dogs over the years, including Turk a time or two, and I must say Slick treeing Idiots is not what I saw. I saw Dogs cutting a hole in the dark, getting in as deep as necessary and treeing the first coon they came to, and staying put for as long as needed to get to them. No dog is Born perfect, But I have to say, Paul and Tim have had more than their share of good hounds over the years. Lets not be Bashing someone elses dog, and we will all get along much better!

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Salt Fork Blueticks
Phil Vogel
17040 Hunter Ave
Marshall, Mo 65340
660-815-2043

Jude

Daniel,
Yes this the same female that you started( Joker X SpankyXSmokey River) she is a nice hound. Damon said that he was going to start her back in the hunts after she has had her pups. His son owns a young male ot of John II that is double tough, he is a littermate to the Crystal female that "PENWOOD" has on this post. He has her bred to Guage, should make a good cross.........Tim

Thanks

Phil,
I appreciate what you said, this coming from a dedicated Bluetick Breeder who owns one of the best Females in the country(IMO) is a honor.

This is a man that bred,raised,trained,campaigned and handled his Dual Gr Salt Fork Blue Scooter to a UKC World Champion Bluetick title giving his statement a lot of credit. His opinion of a coon dog and a bloodline is highly regarded..thanks again ......Tim

hey tim, when you get the chance, would you mind putting the pedigrees of the females on here that are bred to turk? Or at least a short ped?

Turk

Tim, I had a good trip to the west coast in july. I talked to some of my frends and they said they would like to put some of Turk's pups in their bear packs.Carol is starting to feel better and maybe she will let me go hunting soon.

females

Matt,
Lou is on here, she is owned by Guy Houx
Jude was sired by GR NT CH PR Mad Dog Ante Up Joker. I will have to get with Damon Ferrell to get her ped. I will pup it on here as soon as I can..........Tim

John II (TURK)

Just got off the phone with Barry Raymond(BRAYMOND) he had to tell me about his John II X Katie(Jim Combs female) pup. He went fishing a couple of wks ago and took the pup along, after a while he heard the pup bawling around then change over to a hard chop, the pup had a kitten coon treed in a mulberry tree and was doing it right. The pup was born 3/15/09. When Barry gets his computer back up he has some pictures and a video to put on here. Barry lives in Northern Iowa..........Tim

Hunt

Jeff Grant came by for a hunt last night, He brought two females< LU LU (GR NT MAD DOG Frank JR Xegg Jones GR NT Female) and Maggie (litter mate to John II) And I took Cleo. We Turned loose twice and made two trees in rough country, really sounded good hearing real treedogs get hooked up........Tim

John II

Our dog Mad Dog Southern Glo is out of John II and Brian Hutchinson's dog Mad Dog Glo 911. I'm totally pleased with her. We consider Brian to be a good friend. He has been totally honest with us. When I look for advice he is one of our first calls. We own three dogs that Brian described to us before we bought them. They have actually been better than he described. I am amazed that the Mad Dog bloodline has adjusted so quickly to the south after being hunted up north so long. My dealings with Brian have been 100% positive. Thanks Brian for all the help and advice you have given us.
If it weren't for you we would not own Spice or Tonto.

Tim, I know Brian thinks alot of you and your dogs and that makes me think alot of you too. Sorry if this brings up sour grapes but I just read it all. Lance

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Lance Byrd
Montevallo, AL
205-283-0477

Team Mad Dog
Mad Dog South

Grnitech Mad Dog All Jazzed Up
(2010 BBOA Zone 6 championship Queen of Hunt and High scoring dog, 2010 Alabama State BBOA Championship Queen of Hunt and High scoring dog, 2010 South Carolina State BBOA Championship Queen of Hunt, Qualified 2011 WI governors cup)

Grnitech Grch Grwch Mad Dog Psyco Talk to em Toby (sire and dam both quad grands, Finished to nitech and BBCHA, BBOA high scoring blue male 2011 Autumn Oaks, 2012 and 2013 Bluetick Days King of Water, 2014 BBOA youth nationals King of Water and Champion male, 2014 Alabama Hall of fame hunt King of Water, 2014 Bluetick Days Blue Hunt 2nd runner up, 3 nite ch wins over 1000 points) owned with Robbie & Lisa Brooks

CH PR Mad Dog Big Casino (2013 Illinois BBOA King of hunt, high scoring dog, First place registered Friday and Saturday night, 2016 Zone 1 Blue frost memorial King of Show opposite sex, BMOS friday and Saturday, 2017 Reunion Ch male Thursday and Friday, 2017 AL State Championship King of show)

Other wins: 2009 Zone 6 Championship Queen of Hunt, 2009 Zone 6 Championship Grch male friday and saturday. 2009 Zone 6 Championship Grnitech Friday, 2012 Zone 6 Championship King of Show and hunt cast winner. 2013 Zone 6 championship champion female.

hey tim here is judes pedigree

b.hutch knows of all her wins if you want to know i'm ashamed to say i don't lol