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Posted by Joey Donelson on 05-22-2009 11:25 PM:

I was skeptical for a long time but I'm a believer now. We made that one more turn lose last night and didn't hear the dogs for quite awhile so I got my garmin out. It showed mine had taken a tree line toward the road and was now on the road & going down the road. We got on the four wheelers and went right to him. I just held the garmin while riding down the road and it took me right to him in a mans back yard. I could never go back to the old units and be happy. I have gotten up to 5.6 miles with the roof mount antena. I might add the other guy was about an hour finding his dogs with the old beep beep. It took me about 10 minutes to have mine safe in the box.


Posted by Richard Nethery on 05-22-2009 11:28 PM:

I have thought about the Garmin, but Im sceptical, the conventional style tracking systems, are tried and proven.
They will hold up under the harshest of conditions, and the batteries seem to last forever.
Im gonna stick with what I can depend on.

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Posted by GA DAWG on 05-22-2009 11:55 PM:

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I'd still like to see someone use one in NH during the summer. My hand held GPS is a Rino (same one the tracker setup uses) I've gone hours without it getting a signal. If I could get a guarantee that it would work as relibaly as my beeper, I'd go get one. For the record, my Johnson system is 10 years old...and it's NEVER been unable to get a beep off the collars.
One thing they have figured out is they do not loose signal in the leaves and thick stuff..I've NEVER EVER saw my handheld loose signal..I think the problem with my range is still in the collar.Its what always looses signal..

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Posted by Justin Smith on 05-23-2009 01:19 AM:

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Originally posted by Joey Donelson
I was skeptical for a long time but I'm a believer now. We made that one more turn lose last night and didn't hear the dogs for quite awhile so I got my garmin out. It showed mine had taken a tree line toward the road and was now on the road & going down the road. We got on the four wheelers and went right to him. I just held the garmin while riding down the road and it took me right to him in a mans back yard. I could never go back to the old units and be happy. I have gotten up to 5.6 miles with the roof mount antena. I might add the other guy was about an hour finding his dogs with the old beep beep. It took me about 10 minutes to have mine safe in the box.



My dogs leave the woods to run the road and end up in a yard and they wouldn't be any safer once I got there .... that's what all this high tech crap does .... let's dogs and people get lazy and soft .


Posted by Joey Donelson on 05-23-2009 06:47 AM:

Just let me tell you a little something Justin, you know nothing about where I was hunting or how hard my dog will hunt. First off fence rows was what we were hunting because the river is out in the big bottoms I generally hunt and he had already treed coons and was out of timber to hunt. He knows better than to turn around and hunt the same stuff over and when he comes out of the woods he is looking for another dark spot somewhere. The problem was it was farm land and there wasn't anymore trees for miles. So let me close with this before you start calling someone lazy and there dog lazy you need to know what you are talking about which you DON'T.


Posted by Justin Smith on 05-23-2009 07:10 AM:

Video games are what lazy people do instead of mowing the lawn .. and the garmin is just one step closer to being able to have a hound and not have to be a real hunter.

When you sit at the truck and watch your dog on a computer screen and then drive around to him ... you aint hunting , you're sitting there getting soft and out of touch with the real world and your dogs.

Now , of course that stings if you want to be considered as a real hunter whose dogs don't go lay up in yards .... but it doesn't change the truth.


Posted by Joey Donelson on 05-23-2009 07:21 AM:

I've probably been hunting longer than you have been alive. I've got you pictured as one of them little smart kids that knows very little about what a real coon hunter is. When you grow up MAYBE you can offer advice.


Posted by Justin Smith on 05-23-2009 07:27 AM:

Hard times make hard men ... there are no shortcuts .


Most times , when folks realize they are wrong ... instead of explaining their position and saying they are right ... they resort to the old ... ' but , I'm older than you ' .


You might be older , I doubt you have been hunting with hounds longer ... but even so ... I'm right and that's what counts .


Posted by Ebo Walker on 05-23-2009 12:54 PM:

Justin, What kind of collar have you been using?? You mean with those Garmins I don't have to walk to the tree and stay up with my hounds?? Does it shine the tree and knock the coon out for me as well?? WOW!!

The Garmin will SHOW YOU EXACTLY WHERE YOUR DOG IS. The beep beeps give you a general direction and if you know how they work, a rough estimate at how far away they MIGHT be. I have a couple of thousand $$ invested un my hound. Why would any RESPONISIBLE hound owner, in this day in time with less and less land to hunt and more and more peoplke shooting dogs, not put a Garmin on their hound to be able to see WHERE he is when he gets out of pocket??


Posted by Justin Smith on 05-23-2009 01:43 PM:

Look at the pictures of the pillars of any working breed .... no e-collars , lights or tracking collars on their neck ... them's the dogs everyone is trying to get back to for some real coondog pups.

Look at the pics of the guys hunting them ... you don't see one tenth the fatties and baby faces as you see at the coonhunts these days.


People get more lazy and dumb every year ... all this technology does is make drones of the masses.

Kids today don't know how to find directions according to the stars , moss , which way water flows and all kinds of stuff .

We don't know how to work on cars , plant our own food and you better hope 90% of us don't have to try and butcher our own meat ... nobody even buys whole chickens anymore ... it's packages or breasts or legs .

Have at it all you want .... but I didn't get off the tit just to get right back on another kind of tit.


Posted by Ebo Walker on 05-23-2009 02:03 PM:

Justin, I have been lucky enough top hunt out west with some very old timey, big name houndsman. A couple of which have had books written about them or even by them. guess what. When something new come up that helped them understand their dogs better they tried it out and usually used it.

I can remember when folks like yourself were bad mouthing walker dogs, the first tracking systems and WHEAT LIGHTS.

You made a post on May 17 wanting to buy YOUR FIRST TRACKING SYSTEM. I have a Tracke w/2 collars for sale. I dont need it anymore. $500 and it is yours shipped to your door.

And FYI, I plant a garden, raise my own butchering hogs and beef, and can remember hunting with a carbide light and TENNIS SHOES. I was over 30 years old before I seen the first tracking system and older than that before I ever owned one of my own.

I find it odd that you shun the "new stuff", yet on another thread you admit to watching American Idol. Hypocrisy??
BTW,is that a Dish or the old antennae types?? LOL!!


Posted by Joey Donelson on 05-23-2009 02:16 PM:

American Idol! Oh boy thats a good one. First tracking system? Now we all know who we are dealing with. Over the years I've walked a lot of miles behind dogs without a tracking system but now I use whats available if that makes me soft then so be it.


Posted by on 05-23-2009 02:45 PM:

The most dreaded words in the new age of coonhunting....."I gotta call Garmin"...............................


Posted by Wheat Light on 05-23-2009 03:13 PM:

I don't own a Garmin, but I've hunted with lots of people that have them and I'm hooked! My first tracking system was a 3 channel Wildlife. It worked good and a buddy and I bought it together for a song used. I sold him my half when I moved my family to go to college and it was evident I wouldn't have time to hunt like I needed to, so I sold the dogs too.

I know one thing no one has brought up about the Garmin's yet that I think really sells them, too. They are GREAT if you are a non-hunting guide at a big hunt. I was guiding a Purina cast last year (08) at Black and Tan Days in Flora. Had 4 guys, all from out of state. One guy from Missouri had a new Garmin. He put the collar on his dog, and let someone else in the cast use the other just so he could have them both being used. We had a non-hunting judge, too, so there was no foul play with it.

We caught 2 dogs treed on a creek bank. The other two (with the Garmins on) got minused strike for the 8 minutes. We called time out. With the old system, you would have to walk back to the truck and wave it around like a lunatic trying to get the general direction. (I did use a Maxim from a guy I hunted a dog for and hated it, always was feeding off the back signal.) This guy pulls out the Garmin and says "They are such and such yards in that direction." That was pretty sweet. They were close to a road, I knew, but it would be no big problem, it was an oil field road and not traveled much. We drove around. I got close to where I thought they would be (had the judge with me, not the Garmin guy). They pulled up next to us, "Still 150 yards down the road." We followed them and drove right to where they were fixin to cross the road. If it had been a major highway or something, we could have picked them up without a dog getting killed. It was great.

I've had lots of long, long nights looking for other people's dogs at some of those big hunts. They get out of pocket and you only get a general idea where they are from the beep beeps. When I get where I can hunt again I'm not wasting any money, I'm going to buy me a Garmin or other GPS system (I'm sure they'll have a couple more out by then).

Oh, and for the record, I grow a garden, butcher hogs and deer, buy whole chickens and the whole she-bang and I'm 25. Thought I'd share my 2 cents.


Posted by mjflores on 05-23-2009 05:49 PM:

I heard the Garmin's give you cancer, is it true?

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Posted by Randy Tallon on 05-23-2009 08:47 PM:

Only if you hold them too close to your ear when you're talking to the dog....I see my friend JS escaped. We have to get him back to his room....

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Posted by josh on 05-23-2009 10:33 PM:

One unintentional benefit I have gained with the garmin is the ability to hunt more places.

We all have those spots where there is a "touchy" homeowner or landowner in the area, The garmin allows me to get there before my dog does.

Coondogs have never changed, but the places we turn out sure have.


Posted by Virgil on 05-24-2009 04:04 AM:

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Originally posted by josh
One unintentional benefit I have gained with the garmin is the ability to hunt more places.

We all have those spots where there is a "touchy" homeowner or landowner in the area, The garmin allows me to get there before my dog does.

Coondogs have never changed, but the places we turn out sure have.



Thats a good point, come to think of it there are several places I hunt that I wouldn't hunt without the Garmin telling me exactly where my dogs are in relation to some nearby roads and train tracks. I hunt a lot around the river and there is a train track that runs alongside the river. I used to be scared to death when using the old beep beep when a train would come by from not knowing if my dogs were close to the tracks. Now if they are by the tracks I can get to them if I hear a train or just sit back and let the train go by knowing the dogs arent around the tracks.

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Posted by larry marshall on 05-24-2009 06:36 AM:

The Garmans Sound fun

I think if I had this system, I would put one on a live coon to be released. Then with one on my hound I could watch to see how my hound actually runs a coon track. I think that would show a great little map of both of them. Maybe someone has already done this? Larry

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Posted by Zip7 on 05-24-2009 06:30 PM:

Re: The Garmans Sound fun

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Originally posted by larry marshall
I think if I had this system, I would put one on a live coon to be released. Then with one on my hound I could watch to see how my hound actually runs a coon track. I think that would show a great little map of both of them. Maybe someone has already done this? Larry


I don't really have any desire to do that, but I would LOVE to be there and observe when YOU do it.

For that matter, I'd love to see anyone do it. I'm just not 100% certain my dogs could tree the coon with the expensive collar on.

On the other hand, I suppose I could track him down myself, couldn't I...


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