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Okay I'll bite...

Anyone south of the mason dixon is welcome to come on up and stay with me and see how their "southern dog" can do. Make sure that you bring your snowshoes and you better bundle up because the temperatures been running anywhere from 13 to MINUS 20 degrees lately at night. Suppose to cool off this weekend so you better hurry, lol.
Oh I almost forgot, bring your leatherman or needlenose pliers because we have LOTS of porkies up here, lol. Don't come up expecting to tree alot of coon either, might spend all night in the woods and tree 2 or 3 if we're lucky. Let me know who's coming so I can clean up the spare room. wd

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Let me know who's coming so I can clean up the spare room. wd

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southern hounds better than northern hounds

for one to answer the question is southern dogs better than northern dogs. I would think to my self how much is the dog/s hunted whether if they are hunted 1 night or 7 nights that makes a difference. then you have ask you self is the dog/s used for pleasure , hide , or competition hunting. my thinking is that considering all these things I would say that the terrain does make a hound better. I would have to go with the south does make a dog better.for one reason only a dog from the south has the muscle and brains for the moutains and swamps that can be found in the south and pull them out of that terrain and take themto indiana or michigan and you have a hound that will burn the woods up and visaversa with a northern hound. I mean one would have to consider alot of things in order to answer right.

J.R.

We've got PLENTY of mountains and PLENTY of swamps if anyone feels more comfortable there, lol.

Oh come'on Hobo, I'll bring the camera, lol. wd

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We've got PLENTY of mountains and PLENTY of swamps if anyone feels more comfortable there, lol.

Oh come'on Hobo, I'll bring the camera, lol. wd

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Bring your southern azz up here to the north, at 10 below and a foot of snow we will show who has the best dogs.

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what we call a swamp and what yall call a swamp may vary greatly... its like when i was hunting in indiana my guide said we were goin to big woods and it turned out to be like a fiftry acre patch thats not big woods to us but to him it was .... this whole argument is subjective... and rather pointless?

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take themto indiana or michigan and you have a hound that will burn the woods

JR Heiny, with your logic, why is it that southern dogs do not dominate the hunts when they come to the north? There will be some that win, but I cannot recall seeing it happen in a dominate fashion. It is no different than northern dogs winning in the south. Some of them will win, but not in a dominate fashion. As has been already stated in this post, I think the biggest adjustment most dogs from the south have to make is the number of coons they will be in to as well as fences. Just my opinion, coupled with a quarter may get a cup of coffee! LOL

???? Them southern dogs that come north and do alot of slick treein' are smarter than northern dogs that show the coon????

Maybe they need to be smart enough to check the tree to see if the track goes on.

You would think that if the southern dog is a better dog they'd dominate in the big hunts up north.

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Now look what you've started, lol.

Well I live right in the middle. Here in the Okla panhandle it may go 6 months to a year with no rain. Creeks are few and far between. Average coon will take a hole or travel long and far to get to a tree. Catch about as many on the ground as in a tree. We dont have swamps, but we have huge areas of nothing but yucca plants, cactus and stickers. Wind blows dang near all the time. We have had lots of nights in the low teens and single digits this winter. Rattlesnakes thick as fleas when it warms up. I have always said if a dog can put up coon in this God for sakin country, it could put up coon anywhere and shine doing it. Bring your northern and southern dogs here sometimes guys and lets test them.

Earlier this month I loaded my one year old dog and drove 1,500 miles due south and ended up about 100 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. Paid my entry fee and cut my pup lose with the cast. He never got any prehunting. Just cut him lose. He blew off my lead like I was cutting him in his backyard, struck first and ran his coon into a hole in a creek bank. I hunted four nights and on every cast he left like that and stuck and treed the first coon of the night the next three nights. On the night he won his cast he treed the only coon we saw that night.

I'm not making the point that he's better because he's from the north. From the time he was 8 weeks old I made the effort to haul him hundreds of miles each month so he'd get used to long trips. When he started hunting, I hunted him alone and would put him in a different woods each night so he'd never get comfortable knowing the lay of the land in any spot. I put him in big open timber one night, dense thickets that you crawl through the next, then tryed to drown him in flooded timber when he was ready. The night he followed a coon down a collapsed mine shift I thought I'd gone too far. Also stayed away from cornfields or anything that might concentrate coons in a small area so that he had to earn each coon. Even if the dog has all the right breeding, there probably are no shortcuts to a dog that will hunt on whatever ground his feet touch. The north versus south thing is fun to debate but misses the point in my opinion.

PS The people I've met have been great whatever their addresses. That's a big part of what makes it fun to go.

Sounds like every area of the country has it's own obstacles as far as coonhunting goes. When I went out to Walker Days a few years ago one of the guys in the cast was complaining about "the timber" we had to walk thru to get to the dogs, lol. (I was wondering what he was complaining about) I liked it, it was flat and nothing more than what I'd call a hedgerow, lol. Someday I'd like to hunt the deep south just to see how our areas differ but that's just me. wd

southern guys think that up here in the north theres a coon in every other tree man are they wrong it doesn't get much worse in my area after going through the swampy areas you climb straight up seems like it's up hill both directions on a good night i can tree 3 coons sometimes miles a part i will be 70 in feb and can and do keep up with the hounds in this terrain

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I wonder how many big northern hounds are already here in GA trying to get tuned in to the hunting for the classic??

wayne f, I couldn't agree with you more. I think some southern folks definition of "North" might be different than ours by the looks of some of these replies and "the pole" thread, jmo wd.

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Shows southern dogs are smarter!!!!!!!! LOL

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almost forgot yall southern boys act like we dont have any humidity durin the summer time yer more than welcome to come find out that we got it all up here

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almost forgot yall southern boys act like we dont have any humidity durin the summer time yer more than welcome to come find out that we got it all up here

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Sounds like every area of the country has it's own obstacles as far as coonhunting goes. When I went out to Walker Days a few years ago one of the guys in the cast was complaining about "the timber" we had to walk thru to get to the dogs, lol. (I was wondering what he was complaining about) I liked it, it was flat and nothing more than what I'd call a hedgerow, lol. Someday I'd like to hunt the deep south just to see how our areas differ but that's just me. wd

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GA Dawg just how far north have you been coonhunting? What state? What area of the state?




Hills,hollows, rivers, creeks,chiggers, ticks,stick tites, cocker burrs,itch weed, briar patches, logged timber, tornado ripped through the hunting spot, blow downtimber, copperheaded rattle moccasins(snakes) , opposums,skunks,coyotes, deer, fox, windy, single and negative digits in the winter to 100+ degree's with high humidity in the summer other than that its a cake walk to hunt up here but the coons aren't in every other tree. that would be nice though. lol

I know the amount of spray we use in the summertime will eventually kill us but there is no way I would hunt in the summertime with out it. lol

I have traded with fellers and got dogs from up north and west. These Virginia swamps put it on 'em. I have also seen COON dogs go anywhere and tree coons anytime!

we go to wisconsin every october and tree coons without any problems.

I hunt reds.....but I have a friend in michigan who is a walker man and he has told me on more than one occasion that it doesn't take a good dog to tree a coon in his area of michigan...........he said it, not me.

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GA Dawg just how far north have you been coonhunting? What state? What area of the state?




Hills,hollows, rivers, creeks,chiggers, ticks,stick tites, cocker burrs,itch weed, briar patches, logged timber, tornado ripped through the hunting spot, blow downtimber, copperheaded rattle moccasins(snakes) , opposums,skunks,coyotes, deer, fox, windy, single and negative digits in the winter to 100+ degree's with high humidity in the summer other than that its a cake walk to hunt up here but the coons aren't in every other tree. that would be nice though. lol

I know the amount of spray we use in the summertime will eventually kill us but there is no way I would hunt in the summertime with out it. lol

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somebody take me for a hunt in woods they think there is so many coons that it will confuse my hound please please... indiana is fun huntin but had nothing on illinois in my opinion

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