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Posted by Geminite on 12-04-2008 12:22 AM:

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Originally posted by elvis
They are just dogs and very capable of looking like crap in every state in the union, includeing their own backyard.

Anyone that thinks otherwise either hassnt hunted much or just lies to himself.



Smartest post I've seen yet.....

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Posted by Richard Nethery on 12-04-2008 12:48 AM:

Hmm, I live in Texas, that must be whats wrong with my dogs,maby I should move up North. LOL

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Posted by nate m on 12-04-2008 10:00 PM:

if you do you should probably leave that dog there. to cold for them southern types

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Posted by heckler on 12-04-2008 10:10 PM:

It ain't too cold they'll catch so many on the ground their bellies will be full and have a new fur coat to wear. hehe


Posted by nate m on 12-04-2008 10:14 PM:

now that is funny. lmao

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Posted by texhog on 12-04-2008 10:19 PM:

Its mainly about how much hunt a dog has in it. Also a dog that is a hard going get by himself type dog can have trouble winning up there. I once took Rock to Northern indiana to a hunt and scored 5 coon and had 4 (the last 4) completely by himself, no minus and I still didnt win the cast. I was taking last strike every time. He was only 16 months old at the time, and grant it, I have won just about every other time I ventured that far north. One thing I have have found out the hard way is its nice to have that wide hunting dog when you need it. Thats one thing that you cant put in a dog, is "hunt". If you have a deep hunting dog the trick is he needs to get treed in a hurry or else he will make you miserable. I do not like a close huntin dog but can appreciate the folks that do!

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Posted by nate m on 12-04-2008 10:31 PM:

I must agree. a good dog is what gets it done .but i dont like a get deep dog. the country I hunt is to big. and the wolves are thick. up here there are dogs ate every year. im not talking one or two neither. im telling you atleast one per county. in the upper third of the state. so dont try one that wants to run out a mile before it starts hunting.

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Posted by NEOKHUNTER on 12-04-2008 10:58 PM:

Northern Dogs

After reading all the posts from your Northern Boys about the snow, wind, ice, sub zero tempratures, and wolves. I think I stick to my mild temprature, thin coons, and no wolf havin' country for a while. I appreciate you guys up there keeping the sport goin year after year, but I think Ill stick to Oklahoma!

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Posted by Mike Mills on 12-04-2008 11:18 PM:

You southern boys are funny. Up untill 3 years ago I lived in Iowa in thick coon. I now live in Tennessee in thin coon. I have a 9 year old dog that I have owned since she was a pup and I could not tell ANY difference WHATSOEVER in her ability to tree a coon when I moved down here. A COONDOG is a COONDOG no matter where you drop the tailgate, it's just that simple. Now here is where there is a difference. You let one of those southern dogs catch one of those northern coon on the ground and they will be wishing they hadn't. Them BIG BOY'S up north will flat tear a dog up.


Posted by JefferyAntes on 12-04-2008 11:26 PM:

Its still cold and snow is getting deeper and my young red is still treeing, I think that soothern dogs would have trouble heck I bet the handlers would have trouble it takes a nut to go out when its 20 degrees and snow falling ,well got to go turn the dog out 23 degrees and more snow coming gotta hunt. bye

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Posted by Travis Eastman on 12-05-2008 12:19 AM:

Re: Northern Dogs

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Originally posted by NEOKHUNTER
After reading all the posts from your Northern Boys about the snow, wind, ice, sub zero tempratures, and wolves. I think I stick to my mild temprature, thin coons, and no wolf havin' country for a while. I appreciate you guys up there keeping the sport goin year after year, but I think Ill stick to Oklahoma!


You are right but we have no snakes.


Posted by NEOKHUNTER on 12-05-2008 01:20 AM:

snakes

yeah snakes are real thick down here. I have had more than one dog get bit by them rascalls. Even had a couple die. Especially the rattlers, around NE Oklahoma they are real thick in the summer time along with the copperheads and watermockasins. Ive always just tried to tell my dogs to watch out for the Rattleheadedcoppermockasin! I know the coons are big up north, hell I think one time I thought the coon had eaten the dog and started on another one. lol

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Posted by JefferyAntes on 12-05-2008 01:53 AM:

I just got in, 13 degrees and 2 drops and 2 coon seen and theres parts of my body that are nummmmmmmmmmm that I can't mention on here but i'm glad I didn't see any snakes, come on up boys come to Michigan I'll show you another side of coon hunting, THE COLD SIDE , lets not only see how good those southern dogs are but how good there owners are, Make sure you pack some long underware maybe a couple pair,

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Posted by Mike Mills on 12-05-2008 02:19 AM:

I'd love to come back up north again to hunt. I would like to see how my 19 month old male would do in those conditions. I would have to say that he would have a harder time adjusting than my old female did when I moved south. He looks like a million bucks down here on this cool damp ground, but up there where everything is frozen solid.......well I"ll just say that he may not have me bragging on him up there.


Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 12-05-2008 03:51 AM:

anybody ever heard of the purina race?
what dog won it the most?
where was he from?


Posted by damon shivers on 12-05-2008 05:44 AM:

treeing coons

I hunted a dog from nc.It was a grnite it hunted to hard for ohio.It passed up coon all night, it was a pain to hunt.Iwould hunt it for 2 hours walk 1 or2 miles for 1 coon.then turn one of my dogs loose in the same woods and tree 4 or 5 coon that he passed up.I think each st and area needs diff styles.thin coon need a ranger that will find coon,thick coon need a not leave a leaf unturned dog


Posted by bluetickjake on 12-05-2008 01:33 PM:

swamp dogs vs the rest

i know you guys are arguing about southern dogs vs northern dogs but you folks that think tn or nc or ok are southerndogs thats not the same kind of country as southern dogs im talkin about im talkin about the dogs that hunt like in swamps of la or southern 1/4 of ms, ga, al. and of course floridathose are the dogs and the places your gonna see a difference in how the coon run and the big terrain difference, not much difference at all between n. ga and wv or iowa and north ms. its when you get down in the thick swamps that it changes thats where the coons will run forever and not tree for an hour or so, thats where a dog has to track across 2 feet of water thats where the disscusion should be about a northern dog against a southern dog cause thats pretty much the only two places that differ greatly in landscape and coon runnin habits.

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Posted by Ky Cooner Wayne on 12-05-2008 02:54 PM:

hey

how many hounds do you guys lose to those gators and posin snakes down their just wondering , thanks wayne

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Posted by Richard Nethery on 12-05-2008 02:56 PM:

How bout the Brush, Pine Plantations, and Cut overs, of East Texas, West Lousiana? Those Thickets, and Huricane Timber, can be challenging too.

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Posted by heckler on 12-05-2008 03:09 PM:

Re: hey

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Originally posted by Ky Cooner Wayne
how many hounds do you guys lose to those gators and posin snakes down their just wondering , thanks wayne

That would be for the most part down in south and central FL Up where I live we had a gator getting fox dogs in a creek crossing about 10 yrs ago. They found a few tracking collars in his belly. Mobile, AL has more gators than we do in my opinion. Rattlers aren't too bad, moccassins just swell up the dog, like a bee sting would be to us. Kerosene ususally takes the swelling out.


Posted by okreddog56 on 12-05-2008 04:39 PM:

A REAL COONDOG WILL PERFORM ANYWHERE YOU DROP HIM.


Posted by bluetickjake on 12-05-2008 05:36 PM:

gators are everywhere when its warm

we have so many gators its rediculous dont get a lot of dogs ate but there are agtors everywhere in the summer here., and any where that a huricane has recently come through its gonna be though. okreddog56 you are right a coondog is a coondog wherever you drop em but i be you drop your dog in a swamp and he will just run around like a chickin with its head cut off most of the coons in the watery swamps get winded cause they swim to the trees and as we all know you cant sniff a track on the top of the water so you have to have a dog that can wind a coon and be accurate enough to tree it. im sure there are some cold weather dogs that are good at windin a coon that would do great down here. i prefer to hunt above the tn line but since i am stationed down here i guess ill just have to keep hunting these swamps for another year or so till they move me again. hopefully ill get back in the wv area i loved hunting there or mabey ky.

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Posted by NEOKHUNTER on 12-05-2008 10:16 PM:

Re: swamp dogs vs the rest

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Originally posted by bluetickjake
i know you guys are arguing about southern dogs vs northern dogs but you folks that think tn or nc or ok are southerndogs thats not the same kind of country as southern dogs im talkin about im talkin about the dogs that hunt like in swamps of la or southern 1/4 of ms, ga, al. and of course floridathose are the dogs and the places your gonna see a difference in how the coon run and the big terrain difference, not much difference at all between n. ga and wv or iowa and north ms. its when you get down in the thick swamps that it changes thats where the coons will run forever and not tree for an hour or so, thats where a dog has to track across 2 feet of water thats where the disscusion should be about a northern dog against a southern dog cause thats pretty much the only two places that differ greatly in landscape and coon runnin habits.


I live in NE Oklahoma, and two nights ago my hounds tracked a coon 2 miles, in those two miles they crossed numerous creeks, and the biggest slou in oklahoma, and anyone who thinks there arent swamps or slous in oklahoma have never hunted here. Yet in the winter time those swamps and slous freeze up, I am not positive as I have not hunted down in the deep south much but Ive never seen a swamp freeze down there, I could be wrong though. So Dont start thinking that just because your in a swamp that coons will run further, Id have to say you are dead wrong. Its when your hound tracks one over a moutain down a bluff, then through a swamp and through a bean field thats when the huntin is rough and walking is rougher, but also thats when you know you got a hell of a hound. So come on up, the slous are startin to freeze and were countin on ice this week, should make for some hellacious stories...

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Posted by bluetickjake on 12-06-2008 04:28 PM:

neokhunter

i am plannin a trip up to visit my family up in ark city ks i should be passin by pretty close. when i was a kid round 14 15 years old i lived in the childrens home called cookson hills for 2 years it is right near the arkansas border close to the illinois river i think that was the river anyways. thats where i got my start in coon hunting. it was nice country down that way. i havent been there in 11 years other than just passin through on the way to my folks house up in newkirk. just wanderin if you might would want to take me and my hound huntin somtime around febuary if the season is still in? im gonna be up that way visitin family. and dont worry i know that theres rough country in everypart of the usa, ive seen jungles thicker than the amazon in wv and seen country wide open and nice as a park here in southern ms.

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Posted by NEOKHUNTER on 12-08-2008 08:13 PM:

Lets go

Yeah I live in Fort Gibson, Oklahoma.

Bring the dogs and a few stories to tell cause well be huntin all night. Give me a shout

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