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Posted by Maniac on 11-18-2008 10:39 PM:

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Originally posted by Barry Brown
Maniac, I would like to see it up north also but silver lake can not put it on. They dont have the people to put a hunt on like that. The last I heard they were not even going to have a small hunt.

your wright were not haveing any small hunts. it doesnt pay the club to keep the lites on. but do you think its just one club doing all work Berry? and haveing this hunt it would pay the lite bill . PKC PAYS THE BUILDING RENT. I CAN REMBER BACK IN THE 80 WHEN WE HAD THE UKC WORLD WHEN IT WAS A WEEK LONG. PLUS WE HELD THE AKC HUNT IN 2006. I THINK WE COULD GET ENOUGH CLUBS TO HELP OUT. EVER CLUB USELY WORKS TOGETHER AROUND HERE. THAT IS VERY APPRECIDATE. IF WERE GOING TO KEEP THESE BIG HUNTS GOING WE ALL NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.

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Posted by on 11-18-2008 10:49 PM:

The PKC World Hunt in northern Indiana? No way! 300+ dogs in the woods for 10 straight nights? Yeah, right. Not a chance.

I have to wonder why it is so important to some of you that we have a World hunt where you claim there are almost no coons? What exactly is that to prove? Who has the best private spots? Who is the luckyest? You guys talk about your dogs covering 2 miles to find a coon.....wow! I'm impressed! Now try to score on that two mile coon in a nite hunt. How bout we all just say "Hell yes, I'm totally impressed with you southern boys and your super go hunting hpunds". Ok? You guys are the best and you got the best! Now maybe we can get back to reality and hunt where it is fun to hunt cause if I'm not treeing cons, I got no reason to be there.

Posted by Maniac on 11-18-2008 10:56 PM:

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Originally posted by JiM
The PKC World Hunt in northern Indiana? No way! 300+ dogs in the woods for 10 straight nights? Yeah, right. Not a chance.

I have to wonder why it is so important to some of you that we have a World hunt where you claim there are almost no coons? What exactly is that to prove? Who has the best private spots? Who is the luckyest? You guys talk about your dogs covering 2 miles to find a coon.....wow! I'm impressed! Now try to score on that two mile coon in a nite hunt. How bout we all just say "Hell yes, I'm totally impressed with you southern boys and your super go hunting hpunds". Ok? You guys are the best and you got the best! Now maybe we can get back to reality and hunt where it is fun to hunt cause if I'm not treeing cons, I got no reason to be there.

JIM WE DONE IT BEFORE WE CAN DO IT AGAIN. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE IN MY BACK YARD FOR ANOTHER 25.000 IT WOULD SAVE ME ON MOTELS GAS AND WARE IN TEAR ON MY TRUCK.

Posted by smokey7 on 11-18-2008 11:29 PM:

For a grown dog, feeder bucket's are a crutch. Nothing more. You either have to have a dog that will go find a coon or you have to bring the coons to the dog. That's all there is to it and you guy's know it. Grown dog's shouldn't need a feeder bucket. Every time they move the hunt down south and the cast scores on 10 coons in 2 hours It's obvious to anybody with sense that they were turning loose on feeder buckets the whole time. I don't see how yall can be proud of a grown dog like that. That's pathetic. Jim, would you be proud of yourself if you scooped a big fish up out of a bathtub with a dipnet? I wouldn't. To me, when you turn loose and there's 8 coons sitting in a 3 acre patch waiting to run up a tree for you then I look at that the same. Just my opinion.

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Posted by Vic Stoll on 11-18-2008 11:30 PM:

Thick Coon / Thin Coon

God forbid there is a hound out there that can shine like a silver dollar in thick coon or thin coon. I don't think they are out there by the bunches, but I do think there are a few that exist. As many folks have already pointed out on this post, most any dog will need an adjustment period when cast in different terrain than what they are used to. I seem to remember dogs from the north winning some world hunts held in the south, and dogs from the south winning some world hunts held in the north. Go figure! I'm still looking for one of those 95% accurate ones! LOL

Posted by Maniac on 11-18-2008 11:35 PM:

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Originally posted by smokey7
For a grown dog, feeder bucket's are a crutch. Nothing more. You either have to have a dog that will go find a coon or you have to bring the coons to the dog. That's all there is to it and you guy's know it. Grown dog's shouldn't need a feeder bucket. Every time they move the hunt down south and the cast scores on 10 coons in 2 hours It's obvious to anybody with sense that they were turning loose on feeder buckets the whole time. I don't see how yall can be proud of a grown dog like that. That's pathetic. Jim, would you be proud of yourself if you scooped a big fish up out of a bathtub with a dipnet? I wouldn't. To me, when you turn loose and there's 8 coons sitting in a 3 acre patch waiting to run up a tree for you then I look at that the same. Just my opinion.

JASON THIS TIME YEAR YOU ARE NOT GOING FIND A THREE ACRE PATCH PATCH WHITH 8 COON IN IT NOW . ARE SEASON HAS BEEN OPEN ABOUT TWO WEEKS. SO ANYBODY THAT THINKS IT IS EASY TO TREE COON HERE NOW PLEASE BRING YOUR BEST!! I WILL TAKE YOU HUNTING.

Posted by smokey7 on 11-18-2008 11:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Maniac
JASON THIS TIME YEAR YOU ARE NOT GOING FIND A THREE ACRE PATCH PATCH WHITH 8 COON IN IT NOW . ARE SEASON HAS BEEN OPEN ABOUT TWO WEEKS. SO ANYBODY THAT THINKS IT IS EASY TO TREE COON HERE NOW PLEASE BRING YOUR BEST!! I WILL TAKE YOU HUNTING.

where you at?

Posted by Maniac on 11-18-2008 11:39 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by smokey7
where you at?

IM UP HER INDIANA WHERE EVERBODY THINKS THE COON ARE RUNNING ALL OVER EACH OTHER.

Posted by DOUG CHEEK on 11-19-2008 12:51 AM:

MANIAC----ROGER said he hunts all your woods that is why you can find any to tree ----lol lol lol lol lol lol

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Posted by smokey7 on 11-19-2008 03:50 AM:

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Originally posted by Maniac
IM UP HER INDIANA WHERE EVERBODY THINKS THE COON ARE RUNNING ALL OVER EACH OTHER.

So in other words your saying that all these 1,500 - 2,000 plus point scores wouldn't be happening if these big hunts were held closer to thanksgiving?

Posted by MikeO on 11-19-2008 03:59 AM:

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Originally posted by DOUG CHEEK
MANIAC----ROGER said he hunts all your woods that is why you can find any to tree ----lol lol lol lol lol lol

now that's funny lol.

Jason, just relax it is what it is, just enjoy the ride bud.

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Posted by Lee Stocking on 11-19-2008 04:06 AM:

Man Jason,,,,,,, have you hunted in the north? Ya Ya I know what its like in N GA, TN and W NC and also in IN, MI, OH ect...

Heres what you need to do, call one of the Hoosiers in here and go hunt with them. Take ole Blue with you and see how she does for you. Being an experienced pleasure hunter you have an idea how the coon move in the winter. Nows your chance to learn how northern coon can be so easy to tree.

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Posted by smokey7 on 11-19-2008 04:10 AM:

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Originally posted by Lee Stocking
Man Jason,,,,,,, have you hunted in the north? Ya Ya I know what its like in N GA, TN and W NC and also in IN, MI, OH ect...

Heres what you need to do, call one of the Hoosiers in here and go hunt with them. Take ole Blue with you and see how she does for you. Being an experienced pleasure hunter you have an idea how the coon move in the winter. Nows your chance to learn how northern coon can be so easy to tree.

Ever time they have a big hunt up there the casts come in with 1500, 1700, 2,000 plus points. So which is it? Every one of those big casts are allways lieing year after year after year or what?

Posted by elvis on 11-19-2008 04:25 AM:

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Originally posted by smokey7
Ever time they have a big hunt up there the casts come in with 1500, 1700, 2,000 plus points. So which is it? Every one of those big casts are allways lieing year after year after year or what?

yea that makes sense, lets hold a big hunt where there are a lot of coon, but lets do it when their not moveing.

smokey, we have snow on the ground and temps in the 20s. do you really think these fat coon are gonna move like they would in nice weather?

if you held a big hunt here this week, most casts would have to get lucky and see one inside a den tree to score plus points.

Posted by smokey7 on 11-19-2008 04:30 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by elvis
yea that makes sense, lets hold a big hunt where there are a lot of coon, but lets do it when their not moveing.

smokey, we have snow on the ground and temps in the 20s. do you really think these fat coon are gonna move like they would in nice weather?

if you held a big hunt here this week, most casts would have to get lucky and see one inside a den tree to score plus points.

So there's that big a difference between just a month or two? Allright, whatever you say, i never hunted up there. So they really do hibernate huh?

Posted by Barry Brown on 11-19-2008 04:46 AM:

smokey7,just pack the best you have and come up here between now and the end of the season and you will be glad to get back to north ga.

Posted by MikeO on 11-19-2008 04:49 AM:

tell me about it, i went to one of my sweet spots tonight and hunted for an hr and a half and shaker went a little over a mile deep all i got was 2 dens. temps 20 degrees and they wasn't moving there, i just treed 3 on the outside at that spot Friday nite. stinking coons lol.

Posted by smokey7 on 11-19-2008 04:52 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Barry Brown
smokey7,just pack the best you have and come up here between now and the end of the season and you will be glad to get back to north ga.

So spring, summer and early fall there running around everywhere and come november thru Febuary there hard to find at all? Ok, I see what yall are getting at. Feast or Famine. LOL no wonder so many of yall northern folks don't make it to the computer till November. LOL

Posted by dustin on 11-19-2008 07:45 AM:

just wandering

this is a ? for all yall northern boy now befor i ask let me tell you this i have only hunted in ind. and ill. in the spring ss but hertes where it comes i hunted a trailing dog that actualy looked good but the first night i drew in ind and seen 4 in a 2 hour hunt what was hunting was independant as was every thing else now i can tree that around here in a 2 hour hunt with out feeders the 2nd night i treed 6 in ill same time 2 of the dogs fit first tree both scratched 2 dog cast from there got beat by 25 lost cast now with out feeders i can not score 6 singles in my woods but we hunted tree lines and patches which are the same as feeders or worse if you have dogs that get excited on cut and go because if they get to far up ther there is a good chance of them geting run over in the patch woods so my ?is this if you came south would your dog look good without the feeders that we have and even with a week to hunt ahead dont you think i could still beat you on my home turf the same goes for us up there my dog will still tree coon up there but yours has been hunted there its whole life it is more adapted to the situaion than mine so why argue about it we have trailing dogs yall have winding dogs mine will still wind yous will still track but they look beter in there country

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Posted by Lee Stocking on 11-19-2008 01:31 PM:

We have treed as many as 17 in one nite and the next the coon shut off like a water faucet and cant get a bark. Yes coon half hybernate, same as southern coon. Why wouldnt they?

I bet last nite wasnt to much fun hunting north. I woke up to 23= brrrrr

Posted by perry co cooner on 11-19-2008 01:58 PM:

This entire post is non-sense. I have no doubt how my dog looks in either thick coon or thin coon. During the warmer months there are plenty of coon and finding a track to strike is no problem what so ever and after December it starts getting tougher and sometimes we might only find one track bc it's just too cold and there are very few coons out. My dog hunts as far as it takes to strike a track and she strikes them as she comes to them therefore I know what she does in thick and thin coons. Smokey7 do you know how your dog does in thick coons? It seems the guys that live in areas with extremely thin coon population area are very proud of this fact but the truth is there isn't a one of them that wouldn't LOVE to have better coon populations.

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Posted by lil joe on 11-19-2008 02:37 PM:

I like that west bygod country my self . I used to hunt the beckly /oak hill area when i was stationed in VA.

Posted by Maniac on 11-19-2008 02:42 PM:

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Originally posted by DOUG CHEEK
MANIAC----ROGER said he hunts all your woods that is why you can find any to tree ----lol lol lol lol lol lol

he might kill all my coon but i thought if you had a coon dog you dont have any problems!! lol lol

Posted by Mark A. Hauck on 11-19-2008 02:44 PM:

I think UKC does a nice job of moving the World Hunt around. I'm sure they look at coon populations and clubs with guides & judges to make the event a success for both hunters and them (UKC). Why would they not considering a hunter will spend money on gas, food, hotel plus the entry and then the time off from work. Who would want to spend all of the above to go to a location with the hopes of treeing a single coon in 2 hours of hunting ???? Top that off with possibly not treeing a coon during the single stage of hunting alone ??? Thus bringing the numbers down even more for the finals ???

Having lived in North Carolina (Central part) with very low coon numbers I traveled many times North for events and my dogs did ok...no big adjustment time needed, coon dogs are coon dogs, some go harder than others, some have colder noses than others and each night is different.

Just the other night we treed 12 in about 2 hours of hunting then 2 nights later we had a heck of a time getting 3 treed in over 3 hours of hunting. The moon, the drop in Temps (20 degrees) high winds and even a few snow flakes comeing down !!!

Living in the North does not mean you will blister a coon on every drop every night, and I live in what I'd call GREAT coon hunting. When I lived in NC I hunted NC, KY, VA, TN, SC, GA and AL and yes the hunting is tough, and some nights it was good, just as it has been hunting in IL, IN, OH, IA, WI so one thing to remember

We all hunt most of the week for pleasure and to keep our dogs in shape, and competition hunt Friday & Saturday nights, so the same dog that you hunt Mon-Tue-Wed- Thur is getting hunted 4 nights for pleasure and 2 nights for competition, what is the difference and what makes those 2 nights so different from the other 4 ?????

Coon hunting is pretty simple in my thinking...strike them when they open, and tree them when they look up, coon in tree is plus and the one with the most plus +++++ wins. Very simple in my way of thinking.

For all those who came to Elizabeth, Illinois thank you for allowing us to host the World Hunt and giving us the chance to show you our hunting. Hope you had a good hunt and maybe some day you'll get a chance to return, and we'll get a chance to do it again.

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Posted by Maniac on 11-19-2008 02:44 PM:

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Ever time they have a big hunt up there the casts come in with 1500, 1700, 2,000 plus points. So which is it? Every one of those big casts are allways lieing year after year after year or what?

jason you or anyone else is welcome to come here for a hunt. but dont xcome in the summer come right now i have a place for you to lay your head.

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