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Posted by mjflores on 08-01-2008 03:43 PM:

Oh..Jonah, you're still here?

You can certainly chime in with your training secrets too, we..as in everyone on this thread would love to read them. I cant picture you training hounds though...the thought of a wrinkled old dude wearing a diaper and a football helmet while guys in white coats watch you closely as you play with your hound puppy on the institutions front lawn is more than I want cluttering today's thought process. I'm sure when you get up from your nap, take your noon-time pills, and eat your pudding you'll be back typing something witty. We look forward to that too. Careful with your big spoon.

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 08-01-2008 04:00 PM:

Speaking of Culls MJ how about showing us something your "Dancer" is doing

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Posted by JONAH on 08-01-2008 04:05 PM:

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Originally posted by mjflores
Oh..Jonah, you're still here?

You can certainly chime in with your training secrets too, we..as in everyone on this thread would love to read them. .

To keep from getting "culled" I have stayed even after you facebarked @ me ! Maybe next time!!!

Hunting secret # 1 ignore mjflores as he knows not what he is talking about !!

#2 Just have fun with hunting.....life is to short to be as serious as he is..... especially if your one of his hounds !!

#3 Dont let people like mjflores ruin your day its your dog and you have every right to do with it as you please. Lets all thank the hunters and breeders before us for not "culling" all the coondogs to the point of extinction!!!!!

Oh.......JMO !

Posted by mjflores on 08-01-2008 04:09 PM:

WHAT? Are you calling my hound Dancer a cull?? Have you ever even seen her? WOW, that takes nads. My pup Dancer would put a hurting on all your dogs..I promise. Anytime you want to try your best against her let me know. I'm more than up for it.

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 08-01-2008 04:10 PM:

Just Show us something !! Show her Treed Anything .. Heck just put a Pic of her..

Posted by JONAH on 08-01-2008 04:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mjflores
WHAT? My pup Dancer would put a hurting on all your dogs..I promise. .

Now now MJ I would "cull" a dog that hurts other dogs !!!!

JMO

Posted by mjflores on 08-01-2008 04:18 PM:

Why are you so interested in her????

You know you'd never be allowed to breed to her, she'll only be bred to titled ENGLISH coon dogs. You also wont be allowed to purchase a pup from her, pups will go to hunters only, and kids looking for good hounds to get started in hunting with. Those people will need to promise to promote and try to better the English breed. I'll give a kid one of her pups before you ever got one.

So what's up your skirt stevie?

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 08-01-2008 04:23 PM:

You would'nt really breed that Dog would ya ??

Heck just show her on a cage Coon .. Heck she's what 13-14 months now..

Posted by JONAH on 08-01-2008 04:51 PM:

13 or 14 months old

and not treeing.....just cull it they make more MJ.

JMO

mjflores, Sorry to hear you hunt English. Thats what I have.

Posted by JONAH on 08-01-2008 05:28 PM:

Where did you go MJ? Reloading your arsenal from your handbook of rude, nasty and insensitive comments? Or did you spend all your bullets on culling that Dancer pup? Us on the board would like to know !!!!!!!!

Oh yeah.....JMO

Posted by GA DAWG on 08-01-2008 06:46 PM:

Yall can say what you want BUT you should never have to teach a coonhound to stay treed..Thats the funniest crap I've ever read on here..Its pretty stupid really LMAO!!!!!! Somebody show me one thats went on to make a real COONDOG that you had to teach to stay treed...I'll need proof..

Posted by bandithunter on 08-01-2008 07:03 PM:

I had to weigh in on this one. Back in the late sixties I hunted with a dog who was half bluetick/half crazy. He sounded just like the dog you had till he was a little over two years old. Seen him run down and catch a red fox. Then one day he decided to stay put till we got there with the gun. For five years running he went over 100 coon with his best year being 144. Was he breeding stock? No, but he could put hides on the barn, lots of them. Don't know if I'd mess with one like him now, but if someone wants to try it sure beats a bullet.

Posted by Maniac on 08-01-2008 07:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mjflores
I'd pay good money to see anyone REALLY fix that in a hound. Everyone is an expert trainer on these forums.

GET YOUR MONEY OUT!!!! I DO CLAIM MY SELF AND EXPERT. PROBLY 80% DONT KNOW HOW TO TRAIN A HOUND . THIS IS WHY THERE ARE A LOT OF (CULLS) (PUPS)!!!!

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Posted by Maniac on 08-01-2008 07:06 PM:

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Originally posted by GA DAWG
Yall can say what you want BUT you should never have to teach a coonhound to stay treed..Thats the funniest crap I've ever read on here..Its pretty stupid really LMAO!!!!!! Somebody show me one thats went on to make a real COONDOG that you had to teach to stay treed...I'll need proof..

WHAT DID THE DOGS DEW BACK IN THE 70?

Posted by JONAH on 08-01-2008 07:25 PM:

GA DAWG

quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
#1) Yall can say what you want BUT you should never have to.......

#2) Its pretty stupid really LMAO!!!!!!

#3)Somebody show me one thats went on to make a real COONDOG that you had to teach to stay treed...I'll need proof..

#1) Key words in your statement....SHOULD NEVER...... Which doesnt mean you cant......

#2) Back @ ya!

#3) In what book or forum does it require that anything has to be proven to you? Nothing wrong with having an opinion though!

Listen GA DAWG I have seen you straddle the fence on subjects before. You dont have to call peoples ideas stupid just because people dont agree with you.

If you tell me that you broke or couldn't break a dog from a habit or a problem then I will believe you ! BUT that doesnt mean that no one can cause you couldnt !

Again JMO

Posted by GA DAWG on 08-01-2008 07:46 PM:

Yall go ahead and train yalls to stay treed.I'll hunt the ones that stay treed on their own..You might eventually catch up in the coon treeing but I doubt it.. Some dogs like this may have enough brain to work through this.Most dont!! Specially one that want stay treed over 5 min with other hounds..Lifes to short to try and bring a cull around.I dont have time to wait 3 years on a dog to start treeing lol....

Posted by mjflores on 08-01-2008 07:47 PM:

Re: GA DAWG

quote:
Originally posted by JONAH
#1) I'm Jonah and I smell funny

#2) I play on the UKC forums while not wearing pants

#3) My name is Jonah and I like disagreeing with anyone who's opinion differs from mine. Also, I like responding in list format.

Listen GA DAWG I have seen you straddle the fence on subjects before. You dont have to call peoples ideas stupid just because people dont agree with you.

If you tell me that you broke or couldn't break a dog from a habit or a problem then I will believe you ! BUT that doesnt mean that no one can cause you couldnt !

Again JMO

Alrighty,

1) Great, just as we all suspected
2) Ummm, that's info none us needed to know
3) Correct, you've been very willing to argue with everything people say when it doesn't correspond to your own theory. I personally tune it out. And Yes, I've noticed you love making lists, very odd behavior but you got to do what you got to do.

All GA Dog and myself are saying is...we'd like to see it. Most agree that you shouldn't have to beg a dog to tree...this is not a learned behavior, it's one thats passed on through genetics. Of course there will be people who disagree, but they're simply wrong where as GA Dog and myself are right...very simple really.

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Posted by JONAH on 08-01-2008 08:04 PM:

Re: Re: GA DAWG

quote:
Originally posted by mjflores
#1) I'm MJFLORES and I smell funny

#2) I play on the UKC forums while not wearing pants

#3) My name is MJFLORES and I like disagreeing with anyone who's opinion differs from mine. Also, I like responding in list format.

Listen GA DAWG I have seen you straddle the fence on subjects before. You dont have to call peoples ideas stupid just because people dont agree with you.

If you tell me that you broke or couldn't break a dog from a habit or a problem then I will believe you ! BUT that doesnt mean that no one can cause you couldnt !

Again JMO

Alrighty,

1) Great, just as we all suspected
2) Ummm, that's info none us needed to know

****#3) *****Correct, you've been very willing to argue with everything people say when it doesn't correspond to your own theory. I personally tune it out. And Yes, I've noticed you love making lists, very odd behavior but you got to do what you got to do.*******

All GA Dog and myself are saying is...we'd like to see it. Most agree that you shouldn't have to beg a dog to tree...this is not a learned behavior, it's one thats passed on through genetics. Of course there will be people who disagree, but they're simply wrong where as GA Dog and myself are right...very simple really.

****# 3***** That would be the pot calling the kettle black!!!!!

BTW What grade did you say you were in?

Yeah and we would like to see a dog that you didnt have to "CULL" Got pictures? witnesses? police statements? endorsments?

JMO I guess

Posted by mjflores on 08-01-2008 08:05 PM:

Johah, that is just not playing nice!!

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Posted by JONAH on 08-01-2008 08:10 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mjflores
Jonah, that is just not playing nice!!

SORRY !

Posted by JONAH on 08-01-2008 08:35 PM:

NO thanks GA DAWG ! These Indiana coon are too tough to tree !! LOL

Here is a PM GA DAWG just sent me......

"Hey
What part of indiana do you live? Me and a couple freinds are wanting to come north and hunt a few nights this fall..Wondering if you could recomend any public ground we could hunt.We dont care anything about killing a crap load.Just wanna tree a bunch and see how these southern dogs perform up there! Would like to stay in southern Indiana if possible cause its closer.". DA DAWG

Nothing implied !

JMO

Posted by GA DAWG on 08-01-2008 08:40 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JONAH
NO thanks GA DAWG ! These Indiana coon are too tough to tree !! LOL

Here is a PM GA DAWG just sent me......

"Hey
What part of indiana do you live? Me and a couple freinds are wanting to come north and hunt a few nights this fall..Wondering if you could recomend any public ground we could hunt.We dont care anything about killing a crap load.Just wanna tree a bunch and see how these southern dogs perform up there! Would like to stay in southern Indiana if possible cause its closer.". DA DAWG

Nothing implied !

JMO

So whats wrong with that? No nothing is implied..You act like a dope head parinoid about anything and everything! If I wanted to come up there and see you I would have asked for your number..If you have a problem with it.Call 770-401-7809 Michael Ghorley.We will straightin this out!!!!!!

Posted by JONAH on 08-01-2008 08:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
So whats wrong with that? No nothing is implied..You act like a dope head parinoid about anything and everything! If I wanted to come up there and see you I would have asked for your number..If you have a problem with it.Call 770-401-7809 Michael Ghorley.We will straightin this out!!!!!!

Temper Temper Michael!! Whats to straighten out you got your opinion and I got mine. If you read the start of this thread you'll see that I got ripped for my opinion. So if others can post their opinion then so can I. Not one time did I ever say that I could break a dog from leaving a tree and I dont claim to be able to now. I just want to be able to voice my opinion without being made to feel like I just sold a broken TV to a blind man. So if that bothers you ! Tough ! JMO

Posted by Raindude on 08-02-2008 06:33 PM:

Yeah I had a dog like that to where it would not stayed treed. U just need to get rid of him and move on to another dog.

Posted by Richard Nethery on 08-02-2008 08:38 PM:

Im going to pass on some Knowldge an Old Frined of mine gave me, the Gentlemans name was Jody Tarver, he has passed away.
But he Trained more hounds than anyone I have ever known.

He Said, " Some Hounds would rather Trail, than Tree.
Just like some would rather Tree than trail."

And another thing he said, , "you cant stop a Tree dog from Treeing, but you can Slow them down, and stop them from treeing too much."

Hope this helps, and Im sorry you have had so much frustration, with this Hound.

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